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by Stuart Littlewood
Monday, January 28th, 2013
Time for UK Liberal Democrats to re-connect with their principles
Alistair Carmichael is the Liberal Democrats’ Chief Whip. His letter to Karen Pollock of the Holocaust Educational Trust about MP David Ward’s remarks just before Holocaust Memorial Day is now in the public domain.
When I read it I hoped it was a hoax. It is shameful. And I say so as someone whose links with the Liberal Democrats go back to the old Liberal Party under the leadership of Jo Grimond, one of Carmichael’s predecessors in his parliamentary constituency of Orkney & Shetland and a man of great principle.
What David Ward said on his website, which caused such an uproar, was simply this:
Having visited Auschwitz twice – once with my family and once with local schools – I am saddened that the Jews, who suffered unbelievable levels of persecution during the Holocaust, could within a few years of liberation from the death camps be inflicting atrocities on Palestinians in the new State of Israel and continue to do so on a daily basis in the West Bank and Gaza.
Years ago we knew the words of the Constitution, and the Preamble to it, off by heart and tried to live by them. Remember, Mr Carmichael, the pledge to defend the right to speak, write, worship, associate and vote freely? And the commitment to fight oppression, ignorance and aggression wherever they occur?
Remember our responsibility to promote the free movement of ideas, people, goods and services?
Remember our declared support for international law and the holding of individuals and governments to account for crimes against humanity?
Remember Lord Nolan’s Seven Principles of Public Life, especially the one about integrity: “Holders of public office should not place themselves under any financial or other obligation to outside individuals or organisations that might seek to influence them in the performance of their official duties”?
Put away that scalping knife
If Mr Carmichael still holds these things dear, what objection could he have to David Ward’s remarks? Perhaps, when speaking of Jews, Ward should have differentiated between the Jews of the Jewish state, the Jews in the West who support their criminal enterprise at the Palestinians’ expense, and the Jews inside and outside Israel who bravely oppose the brutal occupation.
As for the professional moaners who are always poised to attack the likes of David Ward, do they represent majority or minority Jewish opinion in Britain? We need to know so that we can differentiate.
By the same token isn’t Mr Carmichael guilty of the same failing? He assured Ms Pollock that Mr Ward “does not represent the views of the Liberal Democrat Party in this matter in any way”. Oh? Was he talking about his close colleagues at Westminster or the party at large?
He also told her he wished to “dissociate the Liberal Democrats without reservation or ambiguity from these [Mr Ward’s] remarks”. Do all Liberal Democrats wish to be dissociated? I doubt it.
And wouldn’t it have been wiser to meet with Mr Ward before dashing off the condemnation that his remarks were “offensive”? What’s offensive, it seems to me, is the hounding of Mr Ward. And the people most entitled to be offended by this unseemly bickering are the terrorised, dispossessed, exiled and imprisoned Palestinians.
A much-respected Israeli Jew, Jeff Halper of ICAHD, yesterday re-emphasised http://www.altro.co.il/newsletters/show/2774?key=ae8e744a8dd2c075fcf89fe9221fa5c9 , that “the two-state solution is dead, buried under settlements and infrastructure too massive and interlinked with Israel to detach, especially given the lack of will among international governments, led by the US and Germany, to exert the pressures on Israel needed to force such massive concessions. But the international community will not move beyond the two-state solution unless prodded – virtually forced – by us, the international civil society. We have the wind to our back. Over the years we have collectively transformed the Palestine issue into one of the world’s great causes, at the level of the anti-apartheid struggle.”
The Liberal Democrats would do well to re-connect with the Party’s basic principles, align it with this “great cause” and go see for themselves the situation in Gaza, East Jerusalem and the West Bank (though not of course by guided tour with Friends of Israel). Mr Carmichael says elsewhere that he made the trip himself in 2007, describing it as “eye-opening”.
So put away your scalping-knife, please, Mr Carmichael. With Holocaust Memorial Day behind us perhaps feathers can be smoothed and the issues addressed more calmly. The challenge to Israel’s unspeakable behaviour is not going away, nor should it until the regime’s attitude changes fundamentally and the occupation ends. In the meantime those who support, defend and perpetuate it must accept some of the blame.
Stuart Littlewood
28 January 2013
Encl: copy of Alistair Carmichael’s letter to Karen Pollock CEO of Holocaust Education al Trust
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Somoe
January 29, 2013 at 12:12 am
Thank you for elucidating this matter, Stuart. The stink they have raised over this really does look quite ridiculous when you look at the facts of the matter.
Blake
January 29, 2013 at 4:48 am
Indeed in 3 short years after the closure of Auschwitz they went from being the victims to being the victimizers.
Deadbeat
February 1, 2013 at 7:17 pm
The reason they went to being victimizers so easily is because there was NO “Auschwitz” and the Germans were the real victims and are still occupied to this day. In other words “the Jews” were NEVER victims.
searching
January 29, 2013 at 10:29 pm
VERY, VERY, VERY important video to watch.!!!!!!!!!!!
“..Belgian MP LAURENT LOUIS stands against war in Mali and exposes the international neo-colonial plot at the Belgian Parliament.
On January the 17th, 32 years old Belgiam MP Laurent Louis, the most controversial and demonized national political figure ever, explained why he voted against the belgian support to war in Mali.
Meanwhile, he expressed his DISGUST and wrath AGAINST the criminal foreign policies OF the belgian elite AND its submission to foreign financial and interests groups.
For the FIRST time at the Belgiam Parliament,
he evokes that 9/11 was MADE UP up and says what no one before him has never dared to speak out!
Please share this exceptional moment of truth…”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQJ73vtakkM
searching
January 29, 2013 at 10:44 pm
http://normanfinkelstein.com/2013/four-cheers-for-the-sunday-times/
fool me once...
January 31, 2013 at 1:11 pm
Did Jennifer Lipman at the Jewish Chronicle even bother to look at Gerald Scarfe’s cartoon. Netnyayu is clearly holding a bricklaying trowel in his right hand not “wielding a weapon” as reported. Pathetic misleading journalism as usual;
.
“It shows the Israeli leader wielding a weapon over a wall cemented together with the blood of Palestinians.”
http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/101181/chief-rabbi-weighs-sunday-times-scarfe-cartoon-row
Ariadna Theokopoulos
January 31, 2013 at 3:35 pm
fmo, sorry but you’re wrong. Lipman is 50% right:
The trowel IS INDEED AN ISRAELI WEAPON used to immure the Palestinians alive, entomb them in smaller and smaller enclosures, cut them off from each other, build watch towers and more and more walls.
The other 50%, that to call it or represent it as is — a lethal weapon — is “anti-semitism” is just a bunch of HH (hasbara hooey).
fool me once...
January 31, 2013 at 9:50 pm
Here’s israeli David Bogner again, this time dispensing “bricklayers wisdom”. If you want to feel really grubby, read the comments;
http://www.treppenwitz.com/2007/05/bricklayer_wisd.html
fool me once...
February 4, 2013 at 10:30 pm
Contradicting this link;
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=270755
posted by RB on “The Smear Of The Nation” thread, is smug rabbi Yitzchak Schochet;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzchak_Schochet
who on a recent BBC discussion programme states;
“It has to be said, it goes without saying, in fact that criticism of israel, it’s absurd to suggest is anti-Semitic…”
Fortunately frothing Tony Greensteen 25:48mins is there to set the record straight on whether or not Gerald Scarfe’s cartoon was indeed anti-Semitic.
Starts at 22:21mins;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01qm931/The_Big_Questions_Series_6_Episode_5/
(viewable til Sun 10th feb 2013)
Blake
February 4, 2013 at 11:51 pm
Lol @ Frothing Tony Greenstein. He also covers what is anti semitic and what is not in his latest blog:
A Short Lesson in What is and Is Not Anti-Semitic
http://azvsas.blogspot.co.uk/
fool me once...
February 5, 2013 at 11:06 am
@Blake
After AT’s above comment referring to a bricklayers trowel as being “AN ISRAELI WEAPON” and Tony Greenstein in his blog you provided the link for now describing it as “a dagger”, I’m now left wondering where all this intellectual anti-brickieism murmuring is going to lead.
I’d like to take this opportunity to remind readers of the words of manual labourer Dave Niemoller, the lesser known brother of Pastor Martin;
“First they came for the bricklayers and nobody did nowt…” etc.
.
TG clearly states at 26:13mins in the BBC link above;
“…Netanyahu with a trowel…”
fool me once...
January 30, 2013 at 12:15 am
Hi searching, I was wondering what you was up to a few days ago whilst I was reading some of your past comments
.
Here’s the BBC take on the “anti-semitic” netanyahu cartoon you linked to;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21239917
searching
January 30, 2013 at 12:19 am
Thank you.
Searching was searching:)
I read a lot lately. More books than internet.
I actually read Gilad’s Atzmon “Wondering who?” lately. Excellent read. I do recommend it to everybody.
I like to feel a book in my hand , plus I love to make comments with a pensil, for myself, on them.
Ariadna Theokopoulos
January 30, 2013 at 12:40 am
“Scarfe reportedly regrets its publication on Holocaust Memorial Day.”
Somebody needs to inform him that it is Holocaust Memorial Day every day
searching
January 30, 2013 at 12:49 am
and every night as well.
we should dream of it as well.
so we won’t forget.
The ONLY human tragedy in the whole world since the begining of time.
David Holden
January 30, 2013 at 12:56 pm
…Chief Rabbi Lord Sacks said it had “caused immense pain to the Jewish community in the UK and around the world”.
he should be given a chance to feel immense pain to help him control his ugly, superfluous gob, the next time he is tempted gto open it.
due to an unfortunate medical condition (acute idiopathic cognitive emesis)i have for years found it difficult to choke back vomit whenever i see an image of or hear the voice of this self-satisfied, mealy-mouthed, murder-abetting, greasy-pole-climbing hypocrite. my medical team will be glad to see tha back of him.
PMTSBA
Ariadna Theokopoulos
January 30, 2013 at 5:51 pm
“acute idiopathic cognitive emesis”

don;t even dare ask what PMTSBA stands for
David Holden
January 30, 2013 at 1:13 pm
perhaps someone with Ariadna’s acute awareness of the interaction between syntax and semantics should analyse the subtle but crucial difference between Rebbe Sax’s:
the Jewish community in the UK and around the world
and
Jewish communities in the UK and around the world
is Sax not just permitting himself use of a kosherized “the JEWS” – a privilege he certainly does not wish to extend to David Ward MP?
is he not, in fact, giving the game away?
if people are liars, robbers and murderers, or supporters of those who commit these crimes, to call them a “community”, even, by implication, a global community, may sound succulently sweet, but it does not expiate their offenses.
the crimes of this “community” have been committed over a long period of time, and they are being documented. they include massive financial fraud, falsification of history, persecution of the innocent, mass murder… the guilty WILL be held accountable by humanity. they can wriggle and squirm, and plot, and scheme and seduce, and lie, and swindle, and cheat, and blackmail all they like.
it won’t change the fact that the game is up. the truth is already out, amongst those who matter – people who genuinely love the truth – though the clean-up will take several decades.
David Holden
January 30, 2013 at 1:20 pm
as to the “Libdems”, the party is finished. when Clegg leaves to join the Tories, Libdem supporters will finally awaken to how comprehensively they have been had. their vote in 2016 will be so small as to be hardly worth counting. not that i personally set any store by these ludicrous “general elections”. i am just getting in role for my part as Cassandra in next years Xmas panto at the Bingley Virtual Holocaust Memorial Centre.
Deadbeat
February 1, 2013 at 7:27 pm
Mr. Littlewood writes …
If Mr Carmichael still holds these things dear, what objection could he have to David Ward’s remarks? Perhaps, when speaking of Jews, Ward should have differentiated between the Jews of the Jewish state, the Jews in the West who support their criminal enterprise at the Palestinians’ expense, and the Jews inside and outside Israel who bravely oppose the brutal occupation.
Why should there be ANY “differentiation”. Why should we even care about “Jews” against the “occupation”. These Jews are not there because they care about Palestinians nor do they seek justice for the Palestinians and the restoration of Palestine.
They are there to offer a pragmatic face to Jewish Supremacy and damage control. Sincerity is not Jewry’s strong suit.
For there to be a “differentiation” then Jews would examine their own ideology and tenets. They would start with the rejection of their own supremacy.
Mr. Littlewood is not advocating that but that be absolve the “good Jews” from the “bad ones”. If there is any good it has been the tolerance the world has shown to “the Jews” and its supremacist ideology.
Blake
February 5, 2013 at 9:19 pm
Letters: Zionist claims of anti-Semitism
The suggestion by Zionist supporters that Gerald Scarfe’s cartoon in The Sunday Times was anti-Semitic is a classic example of the abuse of the term. It drains the term of all meaning and, like the boy who cried wolf, desensitises people to anti-Semitism when it does rear its head.
Jennifer Lipman’s grudging defence (Voices, 30 January) of Gerald Scarfe described the cartoon’s portrayal of Palestinian blood cementing the Separation Wall as “profoundly offensive” because the intention of the Wall was to prevent suicide bombing. We disagree. Palestinian blood is being shed and the security pretext for the wall was a means of further confiscating Palestinian land. That was why the wall didn’t follow the 1967 Green Line.
On 23 January, without warning or excuse, Israeli soldiers killed student Lobna Hannash, 21, outside al-Arroub Agricultural College. On 17 January a boy of 16, Saleh al-Amareen, was shot in the head at a refugee camp in Bethlehem. These are but two examples of why the cartoon was extremely pertinent.
Those who constantly raise the bogus cry of “anti-Semitism” whenever Israel is criticised are trading on the memory of the past oppression of Jews in order to justify the current oppression of the Palestinians.
As Jewish opponents of Zionism and racism we wish to declare that we do not believe that there was a trace of anti-Semitism in Gerald Scarfe’s cartoon. Holocaust Memorial Day was indeed a fitting time to signal the evils of racism. As the Prophet Micah said: “They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.” (Micah, 3:10).
Miriam Margolyes
Alexei Sayle
Professor Jonathan Rosenhead
Professor Moshe Machover
Tony Greenstein
Mark Elf
Debbie Fink
Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi
Professor Haim Bresheeth
Mike Cushman
Michael Sackin
Abe Hayeem
Rosamine Hayeem
Dave Landy
Roland Rance
Rachel Lever
James Cohen
Seymour Alexander
Tom Suarez
Linda Clair
George Abendstern
Jan Hardy
Beryl Maizels
Riva Joffe
Elizabeth Carola
Frances Rifkin
Peter Cohen
Les Levidow
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/letters-zionist-claims-of-antisemitism-8479141.html
Roy Bard
February 8, 2013 at 11:01 am