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		<title>By: who_me</title>
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		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.voltairenet.org/article176167.html

Towards a Western retreat from Syria

&quot;The military situation in Syria is turning against those in Washington and Brussels who hoped to change the regime there by force. Two successive attempts to take Damascus have failed and it has become clear that that objective cannot be achieved.

On July 18th, an explosion killed the leadership of the Council of National Security, signalling the beginning of a vast offensive during which tens of thousands of mercenaries descended on the Syrian capital from Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey and Iraq. After several days of pitched battles, Damascus was saved when the fraction of the population hostile to the government chose out of patriotism to assist the National Army rather than bid welcome to the forces of the FSA.

On September 26, al-Qaeda jihadists were able to penetrate the interior of the Defense Ministry, disguised as Syrian soldiers and carrying false papers. They intended to detonate their explosive vests in the office of the joint chiefs of the military but did not get close enough to their target and were killed. A second team attempted to take over the national TV station to broadcast an ultimatum to the President but were not able to reach the building as access was blocked moments after the first attack. A third team targeted government headquarters and a fourth was aimed at the airport.

In both cases, NATO coordinated the operations from its Turkish base in Incirlik, seeking to provoke a schism at the core of the Syrian Arab Army and rely on certain generals for the purpose of overthrowing the regime. But the generals in question had long been identified as traitors and marginalized from effective command. In the aftermath of the two failed attacks, Syrian power was reinforced, giving it the internal legitimacy necessary to go on the offensive and crush the FSA.

These failures put a damper on those who had been crowing in advance that the days of Bashar al-Assad were numbered. In Washington, consequently, those counselling withdrawal are carrying the day. The question is no longer how much time the «Assad regime» will hold out but whether it costs the U.S. more to continue the war than to stop it. Continuing it would entail the collapse of the Jordanian economy, losing allies in Lebanon, risking civil war in Turkey, in addition to having to protect Israel from the chaos. Stopping the war would mean allowing the Russians to regain foothold in the Middle East and strengthening the Axis of Resistance to the detriment of the expansionist dreams of the Likud.

While Washington’s response takes the Israeli dimension into account, it has stopped heeding the advice of the Netanyahu government. Netanyahu ended up undercutting himself through his manipulations behind the assassination of Ambassador Chris Stevens and through his shocking interference in the American presidential campaign. If the long-term protection of Israel is the goal rather than folding to the brazen demands of Benjamin Netanyahu, a continued Russian presence is the best solution. With one million Russian-speaking Israelis, Moscow will never allow that the survival of that colony to be imperiled.

A glance backward is necessary here. The war against Syria was decided by the Bush Administration on September 15, 2001 during a meeting at Camp David, as confirmed notably by General Wesley Clark. After having suffered several setbacks, NATO action had to be cancelled due to the vetos of Russia and China. A «Plan B» then emerged, involving the use of mercenaries and covert action once deploying uniformed soldiers had become impossible. Given that the FSA has not scored a single victory against the Syrian Army, there have been multiple predictions that the conflict will become interminable and will progressively undermine the states of the region, including Israel. In this context, Washington signed onto the Geneva Accord, under the auspices of Kofi Annan.

Subsequently, the war camp torpedoed this agreement by organizing leaks to the press concerning the West’s secret involvement in the conflict, leaks that led to Kofi Annan’s immediate resignation. It also played its two trump cards with the attacks on July 18 and September 26 and lost them both. As a result, Lakhdar Brahimi, Annan’s successor, has been called on to resuscitate and implement the Geneva Accord.

In the interim, Russia did not remain idle: it obtained the creation of a Syrian Ministry of National Reconciliation; supervised and protected the meeting in Damacus of national opposition parties; organized contacts between the U.S. and Syrian general staff; and prepared the deployment of a peace force. The first two measures scarcely registered in the Western press while the last two were flatly ignored.

Nevertheless, as revealed by Sergei Lavrov, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Russia addressed the fears of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff concerning Syrian chemical weapons. It verified that these were stored in locations sufficiently secure not to fall into the hands of the FSA, be seized by jihadists and used by them indiscriminately. Ultimately, it gave credible guarantees to the Pentagon that the continuation in power of so determined a leader as Bashar el-Assad is a more manageable situation, for Israel as well, than allowing the chaos in Syria to spread further.

Above all, Vladimir Putin accelerated the projects of the CSTO, the Collective Security Treaty Organization, the anti-NATO defense alliance that unites Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kirghizstan, Tadjikstan and Russia itself. The foreign ministers of the CSTO adopted a shared position on Syria and a logistical plan was drawn up for an eventual deployment of 50,000 men. An agreement was signed between the CSTO and the U.N. Peacekeeping Department that these «blue chapkas» would be used in the zones of conflict under a U.N. Security Council mandate. Joint drills between the two are to take place from 8 to 17 October in Kazakhstan under the label of «Inviolable Fraternity» to complete the coordination between these two intergovernmental organizations. The Red Cross and the IOM will also participate.

No official decision will be taken in the U.S. during the presidential campaign. Once that ends, peace might become conceivable.&quot;

Thierry Meyssan]]></description>
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<p>Towards a Western retreat from Syria</p>
<p>&#8220;The military situation in Syria is turning against those in Washington and Brussels who hoped to change the regime there by force. Two successive attempts to take Damascus have failed and it has become clear that that objective cannot be achieved.</p>
<p>On July 18th, an explosion killed the leadership of the Council of National Security, signalling the beginning of a vast offensive during which tens of thousands of mercenaries descended on the Syrian capital from Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey and Iraq. After several days of pitched battles, Damascus was saved when the fraction of the population hostile to the government chose out of patriotism to assist the National Army rather than bid welcome to the forces of the FSA.</p>
<p>On September 26, al-Qaeda jihadists were able to penetrate the interior of the Defense Ministry, disguised as Syrian soldiers and carrying false papers. They intended to detonate their explosive vests in the office of the joint chiefs of the military but did not get close enough to their target and were killed. A second team attempted to take over the national TV station to broadcast an ultimatum to the President but were not able to reach the building as access was blocked moments after the first attack. A third team targeted government headquarters and a fourth was aimed at the airport.</p>
<p>In both cases, NATO coordinated the operations from its Turkish base in Incirlik, seeking to provoke a schism at the core of the Syrian Arab Army and rely on certain generals for the purpose of overthrowing the regime. But the generals in question had long been identified as traitors and marginalized from effective command. In the aftermath of the two failed attacks, Syrian power was reinforced, giving it the internal legitimacy necessary to go on the offensive and crush the FSA.</p>
<p>These failures put a damper on those who had been crowing in advance that the days of Bashar al-Assad were numbered. In Washington, consequently, those counselling withdrawal are carrying the day. The question is no longer how much time the «Assad regime» will hold out but whether it costs the U.S. more to continue the war than to stop it. Continuing it would entail the collapse of the Jordanian economy, losing allies in Lebanon, risking civil war in Turkey, in addition to having to protect Israel from the chaos. Stopping the war would mean allowing the Russians to regain foothold in the Middle East and strengthening the Axis of Resistance to the detriment of the expansionist dreams of the Likud.</p>
<p>While Washington’s response takes the Israeli dimension into account, it has stopped heeding the advice of the Netanyahu government. Netanyahu ended up undercutting himself through his manipulations behind the assassination of Ambassador Chris Stevens and through his shocking interference in the American presidential campaign. If the long-term protection of Israel is the goal rather than folding to the brazen demands of Benjamin Netanyahu, a continued Russian presence is the best solution. With one million Russian-speaking Israelis, Moscow will never allow that the survival of that colony to be imperiled.</p>
<p>A glance backward is necessary here. The war against Syria was decided by the Bush Administration on September 15, 2001 during a meeting at Camp David, as confirmed notably by General Wesley Clark. After having suffered several setbacks, NATO action had to be cancelled due to the vetos of Russia and China. A «Plan B» then emerged, involving the use of mercenaries and covert action once deploying uniformed soldiers had become impossible. Given that the FSA has not scored a single victory against the Syrian Army, there have been multiple predictions that the conflict will become interminable and will progressively undermine the states of the region, including Israel. In this context, Washington signed onto the Geneva Accord, under the auspices of Kofi Annan.</p>
<p>Subsequently, the war camp torpedoed this agreement by organizing leaks to the press concerning the West’s secret involvement in the conflict, leaks that led to Kofi Annan’s immediate resignation. It also played its two trump cards with the attacks on July 18 and September 26 and lost them both. As a result, Lakhdar Brahimi, Annan’s successor, has been called on to resuscitate and implement the Geneva Accord.</p>
<p>In the interim, Russia did not remain idle: it obtained the creation of a Syrian Ministry of National Reconciliation; supervised and protected the meeting in Damacus of national opposition parties; organized contacts between the U.S. and Syrian general staff; and prepared the deployment of a peace force. The first two measures scarcely registered in the Western press while the last two were flatly ignored.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, as revealed by Sergei Lavrov, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Russia addressed the fears of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff concerning Syrian chemical weapons. It verified that these were stored in locations sufficiently secure not to fall into the hands of the FSA, be seized by jihadists and used by them indiscriminately. Ultimately, it gave credible guarantees to the Pentagon that the continuation in power of so determined a leader as Bashar el-Assad is a more manageable situation, for Israel as well, than allowing the chaos in Syria to spread further.</p>
<p>Above all, Vladimir Putin accelerated the projects of the CSTO, the Collective Security Treaty Organization, the anti-NATO defense alliance that unites Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kirghizstan, Tadjikstan and Russia itself. The foreign ministers of the CSTO adopted a shared position on Syria and a logistical plan was drawn up for an eventual deployment of 50,000 men. An agreement was signed between the CSTO and the U.N. Peacekeeping Department that these «blue chapkas» would be used in the zones of conflict under a U.N. Security Council mandate. Joint drills between the two are to take place from 8 to 17 October in Kazakhstan under the label of «Inviolable Fraternity» to complete the coordination between these two intergovernmental organizations. The Red Cross and the IOM will also participate.</p>
<p>No official decision will be taken in the U.S. during the presidential campaign. Once that ends, peace might become conceivable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thierry Meyssan</p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/turkey-reaps-bitter-harvest-of-its-syria-policy/#comment-16973</link>
		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://rt.com/news/nato-mortar-syria-turkey-954/

&quot;The mortar used to attack the Turkish town of Akcakale is a design specific to NATO and was given to Syrian rebels by Ankara, according to Turkey’s Yurt newspaper. The mortar killed one adult and four children from the same family on Wednesday.

An article by the paper’s Editor-in-Chief, Merdan Yanardag, states that the newspaper received information from a reliable source, which claimed that Turkey itself sent the mortars to rebels in the so-called &quot;free army.&quot;

“Turkey is a longtime member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and they’re going to act in conjunction with other NATO powers, so it’s unsurprising that this has happened,” editor of the Pan-African news wire, Abayomi Azikiwe, told RT.

Many fear the situation will lead to regional conflict, with political analyst Dan Glazebrook, saying that Ankara aims to drag NATO into a war with Syria.

“On the one hand the [Turks] are trying to give cover to the rebels to continue their fight, as they know that the rebels are getting defeated on the ground so they are bombarding Syria as a way to help the rebels not lose too many of their positions,” Glazebrook told RT. “But I think also they may be hoping that they can somehow nudge, provoke NATO into taking action as well, into prompting a kind of blitzkrieg that is actually the only thing really that would enable the rebels to win now at this state.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://rt.com/news/nato-mortar-syria-turkey-954/" rel="nofollow">http://rt.com/news/nato-mortar-syria-turkey-954/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The mortar used to attack the Turkish town of Akcakale is a design specific to NATO and was given to Syrian rebels by Ankara, according to Turkey’s Yurt newspaper. The mortar killed one adult and four children from the same family on Wednesday.</p>
<p>An article by the paper’s Editor-in-Chief, Merdan Yanardag, states that the newspaper received information from a reliable source, which claimed that Turkey itself sent the mortars to rebels in the so-called &#8220;free army.&#8221;</p>
<p>“Turkey is a longtime member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and they’re going to act in conjunction with other NATO powers, so it’s unsurprising that this has happened,” editor of the Pan-African news wire, Abayomi Azikiwe, told RT.</p>
<p>Many fear the situation will lead to regional conflict, with political analyst Dan Glazebrook, saying that Ankara aims to drag NATO into a war with Syria.</p>
<p>“On the one hand the [Turks] are trying to give cover to the rebels to continue their fight, as they know that the rebels are getting defeated on the ground so they are bombarding Syria as a way to help the rebels not lose too many of their positions,” Glazebrook told RT. “But I think also they may be hoping that they can somehow nudge, provoke NATO into taking action as well, into prompting a kind of blitzkrieg that is actually the only thing really that would enable the rebels to win now at this state.”</p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/turkey-reaps-bitter-harvest-of-its-syria-policy/#comment-16944</link>
		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 17:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.moonofalabama.org/2012/10/syria-false-flag-attacks-to-clear-a-border-zone.html

&quot;Syria: False Flag Attacks To Clear A Border Zone&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.moonofalabama.org/2012/10/syria-false-flag-attacks-to-clear-a-border-zone.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.moonofalabama.org/2012/10/syria-false-flag-attacks-to-clear-a-border-zone.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Syria: False Flag Attacks To Clear A Border Zone&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/turkey-reaps-bitter-harvest-of-its-syria-policy/#comment-16932</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget in 1974 Turkey invaded Cyprus just so USA could establish a military base there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget in 1974 Turkey invaded Cyprus just so USA could establish a military base there.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Larudee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Larudee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a very good analysis, but perhaps it gives too much credit to the capabilities of the government forces and too little to the abilities of the U.S. to pull its strings and perpetuate the struggle over Aleppo and other parts of Syria.

I hope that my concerns are unfounded, because otherwise the level of death and destruction will remain unlimited for an indefinite period of time, which is a dream come true for the U.S. and Israel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very good analysis, but perhaps it gives too much credit to the capabilities of the government forces and too little to the abilities of the U.S. to pull its strings and perpetuate the struggle over Aleppo and other parts of Syria.</p>
<p>I hope that my concerns are unfounded, because otherwise the level of death and destruction will remain unlimited for an indefinite period of time, which is a dream come true for the U.S. and Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/turkey-reaps-bitter-harvest-of-its-syria-policy/#comment-16858</link>
		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[meanwhile, the zionazis use the attention that turkish war crimes against syria gathers to committ further war crimes against the people of palestine:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/10/07/265438/one-killed-in-israeli-airstrike-on-gaza/

&quot;At least one Palestinian has been killed and 11 others, including five children, injured in a fresh Israeli airstrike on the besieged Gaza Strip, reports say.&quot;

tell me the subhuman things are not coordinating their war crimes with those they are having their turkish bendover bois commit...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meanwhile, the zionazis use the attention that turkish war crimes against syria gathers to committ further war crimes against the people of palestine:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/10/07/265438/one-killed-in-israeli-airstrike-on-gaza/" rel="nofollow">http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/10/07/265438/one-killed-in-israeli-airstrike-on-gaza/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;At least one Palestinian has been killed and 11 others, including five children, injured in a fresh Israeli airstrike on the besieged Gaza Strip, reports say.&#8221;</p>
<p>tell me the subhuman things are not coordinating their war crimes with those they are having their turkish bendover bois commit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/turkey-reaps-bitter-harvest-of-its-syria-policy/#comment-16857</link>
		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/10/07/265427/turkey-under-strong-us-zionist-influence/

“We have a very pro-Israel, a very pro-Zionist and a super control over Turkey… Turkey is becoming more of a puppet, where in the past they’ve been very closely aligned with Syria,” said former American Intelligence Linguist, Scott Richard, on Saturday.&quot;]]></description>
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<p>“We have a very pro-Israel, a very pro-Zionist and a super control over Turkey… Turkey is becoming more of a puppet, where in the past they’ve been very closely aligned with Syria,” said former American Intelligence Linguist, Scott Richard, on Saturday.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
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		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 17:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[press tv is reporting:

&quot;Thousands of Turkey’s Alevi Muslims have marched in the capital, Ankara, to demand peace with neighboring Syria.&quot;

israel&#039;s bum licks in the turkish government may be all hot to attack the syrian people, but the turkish people most definitely are not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>press tv is reporting:</p>
<p>&#8220;Thousands of Turkey’s Alevi Muslims have marched in the capital, Ankara, to demand peace with neighboring Syria.&#8221;</p>
<p>israel&#8217;s bum licks in the turkish government may be all hot to attack the syrian people, but the turkish people most definitely are not.</p>
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