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		<title>By: Eileen Fleming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen Fleming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think it is another case of &#039;cognitive dissonance&#039; meaning many of the Rand devotees also claim to be Christian, but there is nothing about capitalism that is Christ like.

Today JC would be a socialist or anarchist-meaning a libertarian with a conscience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it is another case of &#8216;cognitive dissonance&#8217; meaning many of the Rand devotees also claim to be Christian, but there is nothing about capitalism that is Christ like.</p>
<p>Today JC would be a socialist or anarchist-meaning a libertarian with a conscience.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon Blakeley</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/the-meaning-of-altruism/#comment-16424</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon Blakeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seconded brilliant comment Ariadna. xxx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seconded brilliant comment Ariadna. xxx</p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/the-meaning-of-altruism/#comment-16423</link>
		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice analysis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/the-meaning-of-altruism/#comment-16422</link>
		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that photo of rand reminds me of photos of nazi bureaucrats from the 1930&#039;s. :D

&quot;According to Rand, “the basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value.”

those others the plebes must service being the rich jp corporate fascists, naturally. what she was pushing was slave mentality. and the sort of bigoted jewishness atzmon described.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that photo of rand reminds me of photos of nazi bureaucrats from the 1930&#8242;s. <img src='http://www.deliberation.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;According to Rand, “the basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value.”</p>
<p>those others the plebes must service being the rich jp corporate fascists, naturally. what she was pushing was slave mentality. and the sort of bigoted jewishness atzmon described.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon Blakeley</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/the-meaning-of-altruism/#comment-16412</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon Blakeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Superb Article that explains much of America&#039;s twisted thinking and subsequent policies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superb Article that explains much of America&#8217;s twisted thinking and subsequent policies.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/the-meaning-of-altruism/#comment-16411</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul Balles has written some amazing articles

Here is an archive of some of them: http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/balles/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Balles has written some amazing articles</p>
<p>Here is an archive of some of them: <a href="http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/balles/" rel="nofollow">http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/balles/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ariadna Theokopoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/the-meaning-of-altruism/#comment-16410</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariadna Theokopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a tightrope act for American politicians to subscribe to Rand&#039;s &quot;altruism leads to ruin, selfishness is enlightened rationality&quot; while robbing your nation and giving their money to Israel.
This problem will have to be solved legally to make &quot;them&quot; officially and legally &quot;us.&quot; Perhaps a presidential act could grant collective US citizenship to all Israelis who still do not hold double citizenship.
I can envisage a moving ceremony, like those huge collective wedding ceremonies held by the Moonies. Perhaps--if there is enough space left--it could be held on the grounds of the Museum of Tolerance.
The new citizens would be given little American flags--the new flags-- (stripes and Magen David stars) to wave to the cameras.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a tightrope act for American politicians to subscribe to Rand&#8217;s &#8220;altruism leads to ruin, selfishness is enlightened rationality&#8221; while robbing your nation and giving their money to Israel.<br />
This problem will have to be solved legally to make &#8220;them&#8221; officially and legally &#8220;us.&#8221; Perhaps a presidential act could grant collective US citizenship to all Israelis who still do not hold double citizenship.<br />
I can envisage a moving ceremony, like those huge collective wedding ceremonies held by the Moonies. Perhaps&#8211;if there is enough space left&#8211;it could be held on the grounds of the Museum of Tolerance.<br />
The new citizens would be given little American flags&#8211;the new flags&#8211; (stripes and Magen David stars) to wave to the cameras.</p>
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		<title>By: Somoe</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/the-meaning-of-altruism/#comment-16407</link>
		<dc:creator>Somoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant article! I had never read any Rand, didn&#039;t realise her influence was so great and her ideas so twisted. How anyone can view altruism as primitive and something to be avoided is beyond me. An astounding eye-opener! Explains much about the world as it is. 

“a morality of rational self-interest, with its consequences of freedom, justice, progress and man’s happiness on earth—or the primordial morality of altruism, with its consequences of slavery, brute force, stagnant terror and sacrificial furnaces.” 

This, for example, is completely back to front! The consequences of rational self-interest are slavery, brute force, stagnant terror and sacrificial furnaces whereas altruistic morality yields freedom, justice, progress and man’s happiness on earth - How could she have got it so wrong?! 

This was the burning question in my mind until I read AT&#039;s comment:

&#039;She omitted to mention that a cardinal point in her new morality was “whatever is good for the Tribe.”

The simple rules to follow are: rob or be robbed; money is power and power is more money and more power; don’t just prevail over your opponent, crush and annihilate him so he never rises again (“never work in this town again”); never “turn the other cheek” but avenge mercilessly–an eye for an eyelash.&#039;

Says it all really! Wonderfully distilled, Ariadna.

Thanks to Paul for bringing to general awareness what is a very important aspect promoting understanding of this particular beast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant article! I had never read any Rand, didn&#8217;t realise her influence was so great and her ideas so twisted. How anyone can view altruism as primitive and something to be avoided is beyond me. An astounding eye-opener! Explains much about the world as it is. </p>
<p>“a morality of rational self-interest, with its consequences of freedom, justice, progress and man’s happiness on earth—or the primordial morality of altruism, with its consequences of slavery, brute force, stagnant terror and sacrificial furnaces.” </p>
<p>This, for example, is completely back to front! The consequences of rational self-interest are slavery, brute force, stagnant terror and sacrificial furnaces whereas altruistic morality yields freedom, justice, progress and man’s happiness on earth &#8211; How could she have got it so wrong?! </p>
<p>This was the burning question in my mind until I read AT&#8217;s comment:</p>
<p>&#8216;She omitted to mention that a cardinal point in her new morality was “whatever is good for the Tribe.”</p>
<p>The simple rules to follow are: rob or be robbed; money is power and power is more money and more power; don’t just prevail over your opponent, crush and annihilate him so he never rises again (“never work in this town again”); never “turn the other cheek” but avenge mercilessly–an eye for an eyelash.&#8217;</p>
<p>Says it all really! Wonderfully distilled, Ariadna.</p>
<p>Thanks to Paul for bringing to general awareness what is a very important aspect promoting understanding of this particular beast.</p>
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		<title>By: happeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>happeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Ryan, an avowed fan of Rand, hasn’t grown out of the enamoured college freshman. Ryan not only tried to get all of the interns in his congressional office to read Rand’s writing, he also gave copies of her novel Atlas Shrugged to his staff as Christmas presents.&quot;

So that is why Ryan was chosen as the vice presidential candidate.

He let the Israelis who choose the administrators for the Israeli colony of America know that his favorite writer is an Israeli.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ryan, an avowed fan of Rand, hasn’t grown out of the enamoured college freshman. Ryan not only tried to get all of the interns in his congressional office to read Rand’s writing, he also gave copies of her novel Atlas Shrugged to his staff as Christmas presents.&#8221;</p>
<p>So that is why Ryan was chosen as the vice presidential candidate.</p>
<p>He let the Israelis who choose the administrators for the Israeli colony of America know that his favorite writer is an Israeli.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariadna Theokopoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/the-meaning-of-altruism/#comment-16403</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariadna Theokopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rand solved for some Goyim the irritating little problem of cognitive dissonance: the clash between their burning instinctive desire to follow jp&#039;s recipe for success with remnants of Christian morality that societal norms obligated them to mime but which even the upper strata of clergy violated.
These remnants were reduced to lexical formulae used in summons or official holdup demands: &quot;we regret the inconvenience,&quot; &quot;the bank is not responsible for..&quot; we appreciate your understanding,&quot; &quot;please and thank you.&quot; 

She made the law of the jungle roamed by pack predators appear like an enlightened rationality. She omitted to mention that a cardinal point in her new morality was &quot;whatever is good for the Tribe.&quot; 
The simple rules to follow are: rob or be robbed; money is power and power is more money and more power; don&#039;t just prevail over your opponent, crush and annihilate him so he never rises again (&quot;never work in this town again&quot;); never &quot;turn the other cheek&quot; but avenge mercilessly--an eye for an eyelash.
The doctrine of selfishness faithfully applied by Americans might have turned to bite Israel&#039;s interests but that was solved by making Israel &quot;us&quot;--indistinguishable because it is &quot;civilized&quot; like us and sharing our values which are, what d&#039;ye know, &quot;judeo-christian&quot; values.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rand solved for some Goyim the irritating little problem of cognitive dissonance: the clash between their burning instinctive desire to follow jp&#8217;s recipe for success with remnants of Christian morality that societal norms obligated them to mime but which even the upper strata of clergy violated.<br />
These remnants were reduced to lexical formulae used in summons or official holdup demands: &#8220;we regret the inconvenience,&#8221; &#8220;the bank is not responsible for..&#8221; we appreciate your understanding,&#8221; &#8220;please and thank you.&#8221; </p>
<p>She made the law of the jungle roamed by pack predators appear like an enlightened rationality. She omitted to mention that a cardinal point in her new morality was &#8220;whatever is good for the Tribe.&#8221;<br />
The simple rules to follow are: rob or be robbed; money is power and power is more money and more power; don&#8217;t just prevail over your opponent, crush and annihilate him so he never rises again (&#8220;never work in this town again&#8221;); never &#8220;turn the other cheek&#8221; but avenge mercilessly&#8211;an eye for an eyelash.<br />
The doctrine of selfishness faithfully applied by Americans might have turned to bite Israel&#8217;s interests but that was solved by making Israel &#8220;us&#8221;&#8211;indistinguishable because it is &#8220;civilized&#8221; like us and sharing our values which are, what d&#8217;ye know, &#8220;judeo-christian&#8221; values.</p>
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