The Disintegration of The Jewish State Has Begun
by Gilad Atzmon
Tuesday, July 17th, 2012
Israeli Generals expressed dismay yesterday over a violent assault on a senior Air Force officer perpetrated by a gang of soldiers.
Ynet reported yesterday that Maj. A., deputy commander of a squadron at the northern Ramat David Airbase was attacked near his home within the airbase.
An Israeli military source confirmed yesterday that three soldiers, who serve in a technical support unit, assaulted the officer over the weekend after he issued a complaint over their reckless driving on base premises, in violation of strict military regulations.
The three soldiers, apparently outraged by the pilot’s decision to lodge a complaint with their commanding officer, initially threatened to kill him at the presence of his children. They later attacked him outside his home, located on base, with wooden clubs until he nearly lost consciousness.
Ynet reported that Israeli army elite are in shock. “No one can believe that soldiers dared to strike a senior officer”
According to Global Times Senior IAF officers have previously complained about having to deal with soldiers from harsh socioeconomic backgrounds. “With all due respect to the notion of the people’s army, my feeling is that the balance has been violated.”
Earlier this week we learned about an Israeli who set himself on fire during Tel Aviv social protest. Israel, so it seems, is on the verge of disintegration. The images of social protests and violence towards top commanders within the military are clear signs of collapse of the Israeli national, cultural and ideological bond. It is not the Palestinians or the BDS who are going to bring down the Jewish State, it is actually the Israelis themselves. It is the supremacist and chauvinist ideology embedded within the Israeli philosophy and culture that make the Jewish State into an unbearable concept for its citizens let alone the indigenous people of the land i.e. the Palestinians.
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Laura Stuart
July 17, 2012 at 9:14 am
What the hell is that photo?
Gilad Atzmon
July 17, 2012 at 3:00 pm
once upon a time, i was young and militant..:)
Laura Stuart
July 17, 2012 at 10:07 am
It’s that famous guy Artie Fishel isn’t it?
Gilad Atzmon
July 17, 2012 at 3:00 pm
indeed..
Cosmo
July 17, 2012 at 10:18 am
Sounds almost as bad as the 2011 England riots which brought down the UK, well not really as bad, well not even close.
fool me once...
July 17, 2012 at 12:18 pm
But, do you remember saying this Cosmo on Eva’s article?
July 3, 2012 at 9:28 pm
That, in the idf “…there is fear of rank.”
Well it appears not any more. Do you personally know these heroes of israel’s “purity of arms”? Don’t try and brush it under the carpet, be honest and admit that a very high percentage of idf’ers are waking up to the fact they’ve been used all along and now have an ever increasing resentment towards the military prima donna’s.
Cosmo
July 17, 2012 at 12:50 pm
That was a typing mistake, it was supposed to read there is no fear of rank. I was talking about the diffrenece between regular army and being in a reserves unit where you are with your unit for only a few weeks a year. commanders and their subordinates are friends unlike regular army where there is more fear of rank.
I don’t see the point of trying to find a greater meaning in an isolated hooligan attack. What is worth mentioning is the growing resentment about the inequality of the burden of going to the army. The talk about drafting Ultra-Orthodox or even Arabs.
I don’t know about waking up, I think 99% of soldiers have been complaining about being screwed over since 1948. Complaining about is just something every soldier does in every army. Did you used to the HBO show Band Of Brothers?
I think every soldier could relate to the parts they are complaining about being screwed over. I remember watching that with my father and both of us were saying the same thing how it is as if they took it out of our unit.
Frank Perconte: Hey Luz, how far are we going?
George Luz: Oh, Jesus, Frank, I don’t know. Until they tell us to stop.
Donald Hoobler: High ground. There’s high ground up ahead.
Frank Perconte: Okay, genius. Answer me this, then. How come Easy Company is the only company who’s either at the front of an advance, or, like now, exposed at the far edge of the line?
Donald Hoobler: To keep you on your toes.
Frank Perconte: No, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying, we’re never in the middle. And we’re the fifth of nine companies in this regiment. Able to Item. Think of it.
fool me once...
July 17, 2012 at 2:16 pm
“Did you used to the HBO show Band Of Brothers?”
Puleese! Are you serious? A speilberg movie? Even wiki says;
“A large amount of literary license was taken with the episodes, with several differences between recorded history and the film version.” that’s the polite way of saying, it was bullshit.
Speilberg has a habit of creating bs. Here, educate yourself and watch this 2hr exposé with your aba;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV506_VVxN4
(it may be banned where you live, so put some effort in to find it – The Last Days of the Big Lie)
Cosmo
July 17, 2012 at 2:24 pm
It is a mini series and even if it was 100% made up it would still be one of the best shows ever made. Very few people think everything they see on TV is real.
who_me
July 17, 2012 at 3:04 pm
cosmo
“Did you used to the HBO show Band Of Brothers?”
so the boy who named himself after a low end women’s fashion magazine likes to watch a modern rehash of an old tv show called “combat” that has the usual speilberg gay twist.
Cosmo
July 17, 2012 at 3:14 pm
And what would the gay twist be?
who_me
July 17, 2012 at 3:22 pm
“And what would the gay twist be?”
the one that keeps you watching it, thweetheart.
Cosmo
July 17, 2012 at 3:35 pm
You really are obsessed with homosexuality aren’t you?
who_me
July 17, 2012 at 3:42 pm
you’re the one who watches a tv show called “band of brothers”, thweetheart.
Gilad Atzmon
July 17, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Actually, in Israeli terms it is far worse,,, it is the collapse of military discipline .. for a country that lives on its sword, this means END
Cosmo
July 17, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Few drunk soldiers going violence off base and attacking someone who isn’t their direct officer is the collapse of military discipline ? That was just a case of thugs being thugs.
The only place where is danger of large scale collapse of discipline could be with the religious groups in case of settlement evictions.
who_me
July 17, 2012 at 3:26 pm
“Few drunk soldiers going violence off base”
“going to violence”, is that like going to market?
Cosmo
July 17, 2012 at 3:31 pm
going violent
who_me
July 17, 2012 at 3:39 pm
the israelis cant even send a web sayanim who speaks english to spam an english language site. how are people going to be swayed to the israeli cause when they cant be bothered to match the languages of spam and site? we ask that hasbara, inc. give us english speaking spam. is that too much to ask of israel?
Gilad Atzmon
July 18, 2012 at 12:15 am
Cosmo for a militant Zio Jew, you really exhibit zero understanding of the Judeo spiel..
Cosmo
July 18, 2012 at 10:15 am
Is that another Spielberg reference?
Who is that you think are going to go renegade based on this case the Ethiopian Jewish soldiers?
Laura Stuart
July 17, 2012 at 10:30 am
Yes Cosmo ask non whites in the U.K. how grateful they are that the Israeli police helped educate our armed police, before the Israelis trained the police here they didn’t shoot to kill unarmed people of colour.
fool me once...
July 17, 2012 at 1:09 pm
“The Israeli training for “Operation Kratos” – of specialist London Police units such as SO19, who might have done this – included the shoot-to-kill policy of at least five shots to the head.”
http://terroronthetube.co.uk/related-articles/operation-kratos-and-the-de-menezes-assassination/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2006/03_march/08/panorama.shtml
http://skipmoen.com/tag/kratos/
Laura Stuart
July 17, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Yes, it works well. Despite having shot unarmed civilians dead so far no police have been found guilty of any crime.
The shooting of Mark Duggan who was unarmed (but not white) was what sparked the riots in the U.K. that Cosmo refers to. We are lagging a little behind the Israelis but we have been able to export police expertise in “how to deal with” civilian protests to Bahrain.
Laura Stuart
July 17, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Luckily for the police we have been able to modify our justice system to make sure they won’t even be interviewed never mind charged. Shooting dead unarmed civilians is not a crime in N. London.
“Nine months into the investigation the Independent Police Complaints Commission has still not been able to interview the officers involved in the operation that led to the shooting. None of the 31 have agreed to talk to the IPCC over their role. Each officer has, apparently, given a statement but has declined to be interviewed by the very body charged with carrying out a full and robust investigation into their actions.
As a result, the IPCC this week called for the power to demand witness evidence from officers. Currently it can only demand that officers give an interview if they are suspected of having committed a crime.”
Barb Weir
July 19, 2012 at 12:34 am
“Luckily for the police we have been able to modify our justice system to make sure they won’t even be interviewed never mind charged.”
I’m astonished. That required modification?
Laura Stuart
July 19, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Barb I didn’t realise how bad it was, I now know better.
Only cops from armed response units are given immunity to being questioned about why they killed an unarmed civilian, but bobbies on the beat with batons although subject to questions and trial are still allowed to kill with impunity
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18900484
etominusipi
July 17, 2012 at 11:20 am
that, indeed, is the most plausible reading of the karmic logic of the situation.
a major part of hasbara is dedicated to what might seem a relatively innocuous task: to maintain the image that Israel is a ‘Western‘ country.
the fact that ‘western’ is itself a vague concept, already used to saturation by ‘the West‘ itself for propaganda (mind-kontrol) purposes, makes the task easier.
a cattle ranch, a negro lynching, an apple pie, a smiling Mom in a stars and stripes dress, a senator kissing a baby, a statue of liberty setting up its own smalltown burger joint with a loan from a neighbour’s uncle, dimes and nickels falling from the sky…these, and many images equally familiar, help define the nation-meme of Dollypartonia – an idealised US of A – that is not so much a western country as a country and western.
this claim is proved by the existence of a well-known statute allowing all banjo players, wherever they may reside, the right of immigration to Dollypartonia. to qualify you need only own a banjo (in a case, with proof of purchase) and be able to present, on request, a certificate, signed by two qualified medical practitioners, attensting that you have strangled your own grandmother, or performed some similar act of mercy for the elderly. note this is only the legal definition of banjo player for immigration purposes.
NB according to the Banjomud, a collection of ancient writings (which all banjo players take to be the literal word of Almighty G_d) a child under the age of eleven days and three years is a banjo player if his mother can play the instrument. otherwise the infant is unclean, and shall be thrown off a cliff into the ocean.
players of any other instrument, especially saxophones, will find it hard even to get a visa, let alone the right to settle.
the dark secret – that Dollypartonia is an extremely saxophonophobic country is kept well hidden by the MSM.
but, lovely as is the sound of a banjo even to the most untutored of musical ears, the least prejudiced historians aver that almost all of its most illustrious exponents throughout its long judaeo-amerafrican history, only really adhered to the instrument during a short poverty-stricken phase of their existence, usually at the beginning of their careers.
Ludwig van Beethoven (Dutch composer and racial theorist), for example, ordered his agent Steufel to destroy all his early banjo concertos, and other compositions for the plucky little instrument – though in later life, and especially as he went deaf, Ludwig, whilst visiting his hunting-lodge retreat, would occasionally take down his old Moroccan banjo in the dulcet glow of a black forest late evening, after a few glasses of Rheinwein…
another famous banjoist, Jorgé Ferimbi, is indelibly associated with the instrument through the ten years he spent as a film actor. however his later work as a classical composer is utterly disregarded, with the appalling result that his symphonic masterpiece: I’m cleaning Mrs Wu’s windows, phew!!!… has not had even a single play on radio 3. this of course comes as no surprise to anyone familiar with the anti-banjoist clique which has a stranglehold on the content of the BBC.
digressions aside, what is going to happen eventually in a country consisting almost entirely of professional banjo payers?
BBC3 Beethoven’s Spring Sonatafor violin and piano, arranged for banjo by H.Kissinger, played today by members of the Blair Quartet:
Treble Banjo – Barrack Obama
Tenor Banjo – Benjamin Netanyahu
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etominusipi
July 17, 2012 at 11:38 am
didn’t see the recent posts whilst writing, mine but
Laura yes. in fact one of the ways to make it easier to maintain the fiction that Israel is like the West, is to use as much influence as possible to steer paradigmatic ‘Western’ nations in the direction you estimate as the most likely future of Israel. e.g. hated by most of the rest of the world.
Cosmos’s remark is interesting. i hadn’t previously thought of the recent riots in the UK as a rogue Mossad/MI6/CIA Psy-op. but now he has put the idea in mny head, it might be worth running with for a couple of miles…just for the mental exercise of course. i wouldn’t want anyone to think me a conspiracy nut, just because of my paranoid view of 9/11 and 7/7.
who_me
July 17, 2012 at 2:55 pm
“The Disintegration of The Jewish State Has Begun”
good news. what can we do to help it disintegrate sooner?
Gilad Atzmon
July 17, 2012 at 3:04 pm
There is nothing we can do,,, I am afraid that there is nothing anyone can do.. It is a natural yet immanent process
who_me
July 17, 2012 at 3:31 pm
are there known cases of israeli soldiers fragging officers?
(calm down, cosmo, that’s fragging, with an “r”)
botafogo
July 17, 2012 at 5:06 pm
well, “the disintegration of the jewish state” might have begun, wishful thinking or not, but the disintegration of all the gentile societies, states included, began much, much earlier and is now nearly completed. so by comparison who is winning and who is losing? especially if you think that such representatives of the gentile(palestinian) intellectual elite like khalid amayreh(writing here in delib) openly declare they “would prefer to live under the israeli(jewish) occupation”.
that is to say that to such point find they no place for themselves in a gentile society, just think about it
http://www.deliberation.info/iran-assad-uses-israel-as-red-herring-to-spread-shiite-hegemony/
Khalid Amayreh
July 16, 2012 at 10:15 pm
we would prefer to remain under the Israeli occupation
who_me
July 18, 2012 at 2:19 am
further up the thread, the israeli site sitter hasbarabot (as opposed to the drive-bys) posted some irrelevant crap from some idiotic american melodrama called band of brothers. what would inspire the guy to select that crap to spam with? and have the dialog all written up?
did some queen at hasbara central:
http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/israeli-hires-internet-soldiers/6148/
come up with that idea and pass it on as an item on the daily to do list for the webspam staff to spam on discussions about that israeli incident? it brings up an image of fat, bepimpled, bespeckled, army fatigue wearing moral, emotional rejects of their own generation sitting in their telemarketing cubicals following a daily routine handed to them at the start of their daily shift.
fool me once...
July 18, 2012 at 2:47 am
Agreed, projection by proxy with the prepared speilberg dialogue. I think it was an attempt at appearing like “just one of the guys” “just your average, normal military dude at home, chillin’ with his military dad”. A distraction technique to move the focus away from the “Disintegration” issue. You can sense him trying to reach out and appeal to the “buddy love” he imagines waits for him if only he was given a chance to be understood.
who_me
July 18, 2012 at 3:01 am
“I think it was an attempt at appearing like “just one of the guys” “just your average, normal military dude at home, chillin’ with his military dad”.
there is a lot of that sort of ziospam on sites where actual discussions take place. it was prominent at both salon and guardian when i checked in on them. it’s also a staple mondoweiss and one saw it often on other zio-friendly sites like znet. just your “regular guy” talking “common sense” while selling their toxic “product”. “hearts and minds”, tel aviv style.
Blake
July 18, 2012 at 5:30 am
And very possibly a female pretending to be a bloke.
Cosmo
July 18, 2012 at 12:08 pm
You guys are really over analyzing everything aren’t you? Can’t gasp the idea that someone can still talk to you like human beings despite having the opposite view on some issues?
I was already out of the army when watching, the point was that people in the army complain all the time and they all think they are being screwed over and taken advantage of.
Cosmo
July 18, 2012 at 12:02 pm
Idiotic american melodrama ? You can say what you want about me but I won’t sit here and listen to you bad mouth Band Of Brothers, that was just a good TV show
. I know you think you are hurting me in some way with all this mud slinging but it is really not doing anything so for. It will tak something special to get me to join you down the mud puddle.
fool me once...
July 18, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Now yer seriously flirting with who_me. Teasing and tempting him to join you in a mud bath together. What’s it to be? Are you gay as who_me suggests or are you a straight and female as Blake says? Maybe you prefer cuddling up with your aba on the couch with your head resting on his moob, as you watch Speilberg schmaltzy dribble, occasionally exchanging goy sex fantasy’s with one another.
fool me once...
July 18, 2012 at 1:09 pm
btw Cosmo – you’re female.
Cosmo
July 18, 2012 at 3:34 pm
People here claimed I was Gay, Female, Ugly, Fat…
You have been wrong on all accounts, although ugliness might be a subjective thing:)
who_me
July 18, 2012 at 6:05 pm
“btw Cosmo – you’re female.”
but a female “what”?
Laura Stuart
July 18, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Cosmo what do you think about the recent revelations on Breaking the Silence?
Is it soldiers training that views other people as non human or is it racial supremacy? I mean soldiers in a war zone probably have to dehumaise the enemy if it is kill or be killed but the Palestinians are civilians.
http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/