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		<title>By: Jay Knott</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point about Thomas Keeley&#039;s &quot;War Before Civilization&quot; is that it is a revision of what he&#039;d been taught, and what he&#039;d said himself. He&#039;d internalized the dominant Jewish liberal anti-Western line so completely, he referred to Iron Age forts as &#039;enclosures&#039; because he didn&#039;t want to give the impression that Iron Age peoples lived in a state of war. He ignored the piles of human bones in mass graves from pre-Columbian America, because he felt he had to defend the myth of the peaceful Native Americans. And so on.

Then he decided to look at the evidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point about Thomas Keeley&#8217;s &#8220;War Before Civilization&#8221; is that it is a revision of what he&#8217;d been taught, and what he&#8217;d said himself. He&#8217;d internalized the dominant Jewish liberal anti-Western line so completely, he referred to Iron Age forts as &#8216;enclosures&#8217; because he didn&#8217;t want to give the impression that Iron Age peoples lived in a state of war. He ignored the piles of human bones in mass graves from pre-Columbian America, because he felt he had to defend the myth of the peaceful Native Americans. And so on.</p>
<p>Then he decided to look at the evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 21:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;But that review is not true. You actually have to READ Keeley’s book, and numerous others like it, both pro- and con- Keeley’s position. Random internet surfing isn’t research.&quot;

i referenced that short review because it was already at your amazon link and provided a quick overview of what was wrong with the sort of neo-con &quot;scholarship&quot; in that book. a more detailed view of some of what is wrong with keeley&#039;s book, and this type of &quot;scholarship&quot; can be found in this essay:

http://iweb.tntech.edu/kosburn/history-444/birth_of_war.htm

THE BIRTH OF WAR ,  By: Ferguson, R. Brian, Natural History, 00280712, Jul/Aug 2003, Vol. 112, Issue 6

on keeley specifically:

&quot;In 1996 the issue took a new turn with Lawrence H. Keeley&#039;s book War before Civilization. Keeley, an archaeologist at the University of Illinois at Chicago, compiled archaeological cases of some of the worst violence known, thereby creating the impression that these examples were typical, that humans have always made war. As he told the journal Science, &quot;War is something like trade or exchange. It is something that all humans do.&quot; Here I must unequivocally disagree: in my view the global archaeological record contradicts the idea that war was always a feature of human existence; instead, the record shows that warfare is largely a development of the past 10,000 years.

In the new book Constant Battles: The Myth of the Peaceful, Noble Savage (written with the writer Katherine E. Register), Steven A. LeBlanc, an archaeologist at Harvard University, confidently asserts that wherever good archaeological evidence exists, there is &quot;almost always&quot; evidence of warfare, that &quot;everyone had warfare in all time periods.&quot; LeBlanc has a theory for his sweeping conclusion. Contrary to a commonly held view, he argues, pre-state peoples were never &quot;true conservationists.&quot; They degraded their resources, and as their numbers grew, they suffered food scarcity and were drawn into war. Basically, it&#039;s Malthus with ethnographic detail.&quot;

keeley&#039;s cherry picking is confirmed there. the sort of &quot;scholarship&quot; keeley uses is common among the new neo-con &quot;intellectuals&quot;. these are actually not intellectuals, but advert writers, and the &quot;scholarship&quot; they represent is simply ad copy. they start with a prejudiced assumption then cherry pick data, and also invent data, that will reinforce that pov. it&#039;s not science. it doesn&#039;t use the scientific method. it&#039;s reinforcing an ideology that can be used to warp people into accepting dogma as scientific truth. ie: why i refer to it as advertising. 

in real science one gathers and analyses data, then tries to come up with a theory that is based upon what they found. then tests it and looks for errors. with this neo-con &quot;science&quot;, they invent the theory, then look for, or invent stuff to support that theory, and ignore all info that may contradict it. the theory is then made into a dogma which the dittoheads all then run around repeating. exactly like how propaganda is used.

historically, this neo-con scholarship is very much like that used by the nazi establishment during the 30&#039;s and 40&#039;s to support their idiotic aryan race baloney. this stuff is considered laughable now, but the neo-con &quot;scholarship&quot; of today mimics this nazi material very closely in how it is derived and in its phoniness.

&quot;More: “from the 70′s on, jp has been very busy, working to stack academia with their propaganda” – meaning the traditional Western narrative. Nothing could be further from the truth.&quot;

there is no &quot;western narrative&quot; and jp certainly isn&#039;t &quot;western narrative&quot;. that distorts the meaning of my use of the term jp. my use of the term has to do with jp stacking universities with people friendly to the interests of jewish power interests. these can be rightwing, left or centre. for example: a chomsky or a dershowitz. 

the fact that jp works diligently to limit what may be taught at uni is well documented. they do this on their own, but frequently, they employ proxies, as well, with or without the proxy&#039;s knowledge of where their &quot;attack&quot; orders originate from.

&quot;The ‘propaganda’ these Jewish leftist academics defend is anti-Western – they don’t have ‘whitey heroes’ – on the contrary!&quot;

that is just plain laughable rubbish. :D

re:“They contaminated them – intentionally – with diseases ranging from small pox to syphilis – not to forget tuberculosis – which killed 90% of the Native population in the first biological war ever waged…”

&quot;There’s no nice way of putting it – the above quote is a pack of lies. The settlers didn’t know what smallpox is.&quot;

actually, that line from dm is partly true. claiming it is a &quot;is a pack of lies&quot; only shows your own self-imposed ignorance and prejudices. there are a couple documented events where europeans deliberately attempted to infect indians with disease. in 1767 and 1836. possibly also in the 1850&#039;s. but the vast majority of indian deaths due to european/african diseases were not the result of intent, they were result of indian contact with europeans/africans who were sick or recently sick and still carried the some of the disease.

&quot;Claiming that Keeley, MacDonald and other critics of the dominant leftist line in academia are the equivalent of ‘fox news readers’ is illiterate and arrogant chutzpah.&quot;

first there is no &quot;dominant leftist line in academia&quot;, that&#039;s standard neo-con/jp/hannity/limbaugh labeling used to hop up the idiots. you are right, keeley isn&#039;t a foxnews reader, he is more like one of the writer who write the pap those news readers read. people, like you, who buy into this warped neo-con &quot;scholarship, because it confirms their uneducated, prejudiced views about poor whitey and a desire to be subservient to an all knowing &#039;boss&quot;, are simply wide-eyed, open-mouthed viewers of foxnews. this neo-con &quot;scjholarship&quot; is an application of tabloid journalism and television &quot;facts&quot; to the academic world to provide a &quot;scientific basis for a hierarchical status quo of elites and exploited subjects. the whole basis of this phony scholarship about man&#039;s innate aggressiveness is to promote a hierarchical society where dominance and exploitation are institutionalised as the norm of human behaviour, to be encouraged and celebrated. it&#039;s almost as dubious as kings claiming they had a right to rule because god intended them to. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jk</p>
<p>&#8220;But that review is not true. You actually have to READ Keeley’s book, and numerous others like it, both pro- and con- Keeley’s position. Random internet surfing isn’t research.&#8221;</p>
<p>i referenced that short review because it was already at your amazon link and provided a quick overview of what was wrong with the sort of neo-con &#8220;scholarship&#8221; in that book. a more detailed view of some of what is wrong with keeley&#8217;s book, and this type of &#8220;scholarship&#8221; can be found in this essay:</p>
<p><a href="http://iweb.tntech.edu/kosburn/history-444/birth_of_war.htm" rel="nofollow">http://iweb.tntech.edu/kosburn/history-444/birth_of_war.htm</a></p>
<p>THE BIRTH OF WAR ,  By: Ferguson, R. Brian, Natural History, 00280712, Jul/Aug 2003, Vol. 112, Issue 6</p>
<p>on keeley specifically:</p>
<p>&#8220;In 1996 the issue took a new turn with Lawrence H. Keeley&#8217;s book War before Civilization. Keeley, an archaeologist at the University of Illinois at Chicago, compiled archaeological cases of some of the worst violence known, thereby creating the impression that these examples were typical, that humans have always made war. As he told the journal Science, &#8220;War is something like trade or exchange. It is something that all humans do.&#8221; Here I must unequivocally disagree: in my view the global archaeological record contradicts the idea that war was always a feature of human existence; instead, the record shows that warfare is largely a development of the past 10,000 years.</p>
<p>In the new book Constant Battles: The Myth of the Peaceful, Noble Savage (written with the writer Katherine E. Register), Steven A. LeBlanc, an archaeologist at Harvard University, confidently asserts that wherever good archaeological evidence exists, there is &#8220;almost always&#8221; evidence of warfare, that &#8220;everyone had warfare in all time periods.&#8221; LeBlanc has a theory for his sweeping conclusion. Contrary to a commonly held view, he argues, pre-state peoples were never &#8220;true conservationists.&#8221; They degraded their resources, and as their numbers grew, they suffered food scarcity and were drawn into war. Basically, it&#8217;s Malthus with ethnographic detail.&#8221;</p>
<p>keeley&#8217;s cherry picking is confirmed there. the sort of &#8220;scholarship&#8221; keeley uses is common among the new neo-con &#8220;intellectuals&#8221;. these are actually not intellectuals, but advert writers, and the &#8220;scholarship&#8221; they represent is simply ad copy. they start with a prejudiced assumption then cherry pick data, and also invent data, that will reinforce that pov. it&#8217;s not science. it doesn&#8217;t use the scientific method. it&#8217;s reinforcing an ideology that can be used to warp people into accepting dogma as scientific truth. ie: why i refer to it as advertising. </p>
<p>in real science one gathers and analyses data, then tries to come up with a theory that is based upon what they found. then tests it and looks for errors. with this neo-con &#8220;science&#8221;, they invent the theory, then look for, or invent stuff to support that theory, and ignore all info that may contradict it. the theory is then made into a dogma which the dittoheads all then run around repeating. exactly like how propaganda is used.</p>
<p>historically, this neo-con scholarship is very much like that used by the nazi establishment during the 30&#8242;s and 40&#8242;s to support their idiotic aryan race baloney. this stuff is considered laughable now, but the neo-con &#8220;scholarship&#8221; of today mimics this nazi material very closely in how it is derived and in its phoniness.</p>
<p>&#8220;More: “from the 70′s on, jp has been very busy, working to stack academia with their propaganda” – meaning the traditional Western narrative. Nothing could be further from the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>there is no &#8220;western narrative&#8221; and jp certainly isn&#8217;t &#8220;western narrative&#8221;. that distorts the meaning of my use of the term jp. my use of the term has to do with jp stacking universities with people friendly to the interests of jewish power interests. these can be rightwing, left or centre. for example: a chomsky or a dershowitz. </p>
<p>the fact that jp works diligently to limit what may be taught at uni is well documented. they do this on their own, but frequently, they employ proxies, as well, with or without the proxy&#8217;s knowledge of where their &#8220;attack&#8221; orders originate from.</p>
<p>&#8220;The ‘propaganda’ these Jewish leftist academics defend is anti-Western – they don’t have ‘whitey heroes’ – on the contrary!&#8221;</p>
<p>that is just plain laughable rubbish. <img src='http://www.deliberation.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>re:“They contaminated them – intentionally – with diseases ranging from small pox to syphilis – not to forget tuberculosis – which killed 90% of the Native population in the first biological war ever waged…”</p>
<p>&#8220;There’s no nice way of putting it – the above quote is a pack of lies. The settlers didn’t know what smallpox is.&#8221;</p>
<p>actually, that line from dm is partly true. claiming it is a &#8220;is a pack of lies&#8221; only shows your own self-imposed ignorance and prejudices. there are a couple documented events where europeans deliberately attempted to infect indians with disease. in 1767 and 1836. possibly also in the 1850&#8242;s. but the vast majority of indian deaths due to european/african diseases were not the result of intent, they were result of indian contact with europeans/africans who were sick or recently sick and still carried the some of the disease.</p>
<p>&#8220;Claiming that Keeley, MacDonald and other critics of the dominant leftist line in academia are the equivalent of ‘fox news readers’ is illiterate and arrogant chutzpah.&#8221;</p>
<p>first there is no &#8220;dominant leftist line in academia&#8221;, that&#8217;s standard neo-con/jp/hannity/limbaugh labeling used to hop up the idiots. you are right, keeley isn&#8217;t a foxnews reader, he is more like one of the writer who write the pap those news readers read. people, like you, who buy into this warped neo-con &#8220;scholarship, because it confirms their uneducated, prejudiced views about poor whitey and a desire to be subservient to an all knowing &#8216;boss&#8221;, are simply wide-eyed, open-mouthed viewers of foxnews. this neo-con &#8220;scjholarship&#8221; is an application of tabloid journalism and television &#8220;facts&#8221; to the academic world to provide a &#8220;scientific basis for a hierarchical status quo of elites and exploited subjects. the whole basis of this phony scholarship about man&#8217;s innate aggressiveness is to promote a hierarchical society where dominance and exploitation are institutionalised as the norm of human behaviour, to be encouraged and celebrated. it&#8217;s almost as dubious as kings claiming they had a right to rule because god intended them to. <img src='http://www.deliberation.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Mabsout</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/the-british-israelization-of-the-world/#comment-13895</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Mabsout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 11:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The usual argument used to justify the slaughters committed against the Native Indigenous in the northern continent is that the Natives were already at warfare with each other and had many disputes and were fighting among individuals and tribes and what the white settlers did to them is similar to what they were already doing to each other. This kind of argument does not stand because what the white settlers practiced was genocide and not any other type of war. The Indian warfare among tribes was not a war in the proper sense of the word , they were disputes among tribes caused mostly by slander or some isolated incident and usually were settled by apologizing or by compensating. Something similar we had in the pre Islamite period were Arab tribes would fight over anything- be it a race or a spring of water or cattle - and these wars would last for years without causing significant casualties or damage until they were solved by the interference of some third neutral party . The kind of violence practice by the settlers was unknown to the indigenous culture and was indeed shocking . In fact there is a whole white literature that makes fun of the kind of war the Native tribes launch on each other because – according to prof. Munir Akesh who analysed this symptom :” this war lacked two essential elements :Territorial expansion and killing . The white settlers describe it as a kind of sports or entertainment and not for subduing the enemy for they might fight for seven years without even causing seven deaths ; they rush to the plains and start jumping and dancing calling it fighting and if someone gets injured they both stop the fight and all rush to the help of the wounded “. And again from the same author citing George B Grinnell:”Among Natives, touching the enemy is a vile expression of enmity , and defeating your enemy without injuring is real chivalry . It is a sign of courage and one of the traditions to go to war with no weapon that can hit the enemy from far , for this reason carrying a spear is more chivalrous than using the arrow and taking a small axe is better that the spear, whereas the highest expression of courage is to go to war without weapons at all.” Prof Munir Akesh : The American Genocides : The Right to Sacrifice the Other.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The usual argument used to justify the slaughters committed against the Native Indigenous in the northern continent is that the Natives were already at warfare with each other and had many disputes and were fighting among individuals and tribes and what the white settlers did to them is similar to what they were already doing to each other. This kind of argument does not stand because what the white settlers practiced was genocide and not any other type of war. The Indian warfare among tribes was not a war in the proper sense of the word , they were disputes among tribes caused mostly by slander or some isolated incident and usually were settled by apologizing or by compensating. Something similar we had in the pre Islamite period were Arab tribes would fight over anything- be it a race or a spring of water or cattle &#8211; and these wars would last for years without causing significant casualties or damage until they were solved by the interference of some third neutral party . The kind of violence practice by the settlers was unknown to the indigenous culture and was indeed shocking . In fact there is a whole white literature that makes fun of the kind of war the Native tribes launch on each other because – according to prof. Munir Akesh who analysed this symptom :” this war lacked two essential elements :Territorial expansion and killing . The white settlers describe it as a kind of sports or entertainment and not for subduing the enemy for they might fight for seven years without even causing seven deaths ; they rush to the plains and start jumping and dancing calling it fighting and if someone gets injured they both stop the fight and all rush to the help of the wounded “. And again from the same author citing George B Grinnell:”Among Natives, touching the enemy is a vile expression of enmity , and defeating your enemy without injuring is real chivalry . It is a sign of courage and one of the traditions to go to war with no weapon that can hit the enemy from far , for this reason carrying a spear is more chivalrous than using the arrow and taking a small axe is better that the spear, whereas the highest expression of courage is to go to war without weapons at all.” Prof Munir Akesh : The American Genocides : The Right to Sacrifice the Other.</p>
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		<title>By: pgg804</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re welcome Blake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome Blake.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Knott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Knott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, &#039;etominusipi&#039;. I could chill out a bit, couldn&#039;t I? I&#039;m about to produce one more article - an uncontroversial piece about conspiracy theories - then I&#039;ll give it a break for a while.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, &#8216;etominusipi&#8217;. I could chill out a bit, couldn&#8217;t I? I&#8217;m about to produce one more article &#8211; an uncontroversial piece about conspiracy theories &#8211; then I&#8217;ll give it a break for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Knott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Knott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Another review pointed out this keeley used 8 groups of people, from 3 regions, to generalise about all of pre-contact with europeans world history&quot;.

Right. But that review is not true. You actually have to READ Keeley&#039;s book, and numerous others like it, both pro- and con- Keeley&#039;s position. Random internet surfing isn&#039;t research.

More: &quot;from the 70′s on, jp has been very busy, working to stack academia with their propaganda&quot; - meaning the traditional Western narrative. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The Jewish influence on academia includes the Frankfurt School since the twenties, and Boas and numerous others since WW II. The &#039;propaganda&#039; these Jewish leftist academics defend is anti-Western - they don&#039;t have &#039;whitey heroes&#039; - on the contrary! Mabsout&#039;s article accepts their claims without criticism, as he did previously: http://tinyurl.com/c9jwvmk -

&quot;They contaminated them – intentionally – with diseases ranging from small pox to syphilis – not to forget tuberculosis – which killed 90% of the Native population in the first biological war ever waged...&quot;

There&#039;s no nice way of putting it - the above quote is a pack of lies. The settlers didn&#039;t know what smallpox is.

Claiming that Keeley, MacDonald and other critics of the dominant leftist line in academia are the equivalent of &#039;fox news readers&#039; is illiterate and arrogant chutzpah. 

It&#039;s right to publish articles like the above, because it enables countering the p.c. prejudices it contains, which are widespread in this society. I&#039;m not so sure about some of the responses, which are a waste of your space and my time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Another review pointed out this keeley used 8 groups of people, from 3 regions, to generalise about all of pre-contact with europeans world history&#8221;.</p>
<p>Right. But that review is not true. You actually have to READ Keeley&#8217;s book, and numerous others like it, both pro- and con- Keeley&#8217;s position. Random internet surfing isn&#8217;t research.</p>
<p>More: &#8220;from the 70′s on, jp has been very busy, working to stack academia with their propaganda&#8221; &#8211; meaning the traditional Western narrative. Nothing could be further from the truth.</p>
<p>The Jewish influence on academia includes the Frankfurt School since the twenties, and Boas and numerous others since WW II. The &#8216;propaganda&#8217; these Jewish leftist academics defend is anti-Western &#8211; they don&#8217;t have &#8216;whitey heroes&#8217; &#8211; on the contrary! Mabsout&#8217;s article accepts their claims without criticism, as he did previously: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/c9jwvmk" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/c9jwvmk</a> -</p>
<p>&#8220;They contaminated them – intentionally – with diseases ranging from small pox to syphilis – not to forget tuberculosis – which killed 90% of the Native population in the first biological war ever waged&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no nice way of putting it &#8211; the above quote is a pack of lies. The settlers didn&#8217;t know what smallpox is.</p>
<p>Claiming that Keeley, MacDonald and other critics of the dominant leftist line in academia are the equivalent of &#8216;fox news readers&#8217; is illiterate and arrogant chutzpah. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s right to publish articles like the above, because it enables countering the p.c. prejudices it contains, which are widespread in this society. I&#8217;m not so sure about some of the responses, which are a waste of your space and my time.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/the-british-israelization-of-the-world/#comment-13650</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 13:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks for reposting that I hadn&#039;t seen it previously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for reposting that I hadn&#8217;t seen it previously.</p>
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		<title>By: pgg804</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 04:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My comment is not to argue that what was done to the American-Indian was not wrong or a terrible injustice.  My comment is to argue there is not a direct connection between the two (stealing Indians land versus Palestinian land), but there is a direct connection with another huge ethnic cleansing operation the British played a major role in.  This ethnic cleansing immediately preceded the Palestinians being pushed off their land and was perpetrated against whom many Jews have claimed was their biggest enemy ever.  And I do agree with the statement that &quot;the other who does not surrender fully to you&quot; will be exterminated.

I have posted this argument before, but I&#039;m going to post it here again because I believe to ignore it is to ignore an irrefutable fact.

The following is a PDF file containing copies of the actual letters of years of correspondence between Chaim Weizmann (president of the world&#039;s Zionist Organization and immediately thereafter first President of Israel) and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill.  The letters were copied by the historian David Irving during a visit to Israel.  He was given permission to do this.

The copies are a little difficult to read, so Mr. Irving made two copies of the September 10, 1941 letter from Weizmann to Churchill.  Click on page 25 (on the right of the page) to read this letter.  Paragraph two says &quot;Two years have passed since, on the outbreak of the war I offered to His Majesty’s government, on behalf of the Jewish people, the fullest active support of Jews in Palestine and throughout the world&quot; and on the last paragraph page 26, first page 27, writing about the United States, &quot;There is only one big ethnic group which is willing to stand, to a man, for Great Britain, and a policy of “all-out-aid” for her: the five million American Jews. From Secretary Morgenthau, Governor Lehman, Justice Frankfurter, down to the simplest Jewish workman or trader...It has been repeatedly acknowledged by British Statesmen that it was the Jews who, in the last war, effectively helped to tip the scales in America in favour of Great Britain. They are keen to do it – and may do it – again&quot;.  Weizmann is asking Churchill to permit and support the creation of a Jewish division (which will later become the Israeli army) to fight against Germany and in return he promises to bring the USA into the war against Germany.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/History/Churchill/Weizmann_Zionists/Weizmann_Churchill_corr.pdf 

The letter is transcribed and readable here:

http://endzog.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/deavid-irving-releases-letter-proving-churchills-complicity-with-jews/

In this ten minute segment of his speech, David Irving discusses Churchill&#039;s relationship with the Zionists, the letters and how Churchill was paid to make Germany Great Britain&#039;s enemy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BpENdKqu0U&amp;bpctr=1343967280

In 1917 the the USA entered WW I against Germany due to Zionist pressure and in return Great Britain announced the Balfour Declaration and their intent to create an Israeli state on Palestinian land.  This was right in the middle of WW I.

Germany never wanted to fight Britain or the USA during WW II and they repeatedly made contact with the British to end the hostilities.  Churchill refused and the British and Americans announced the only thing that could end the war was the &quot;unconditional surrender&quot; of Germany so the allies could do what they wanted with the Germans.  Over fourteen million Germans were expelled from their territory that they had lived on since at least the middle ages so Czechs, Poles and Russians could settle there.  This was 1945 - 1948.  Germany&#039;s civilian population was burned alive in the bombing (tens of thousands of people in as little as 20 minutes) in city after city. Israel was created in 1948.  You are absolutely correct, &quot;who does not surrender fully to you&quot; will be exterminated. 

Mr. Mabsout, please read the letter I describe (or at least the parts I mention and watch at least the first four minutes of David Irving&#039;s speech.

I am aware David Irving is the most politically incorrect historian in the world and has some views about society that were common fifty years ago,but are no longer considered acceptable today, but this has nothing to do with his books on history.  Galileo and Kepler were imprisoned and attacked for their views too.  If you really want to understand the history, you have to understand Irving.  He has not been imprisoned several times for nothing.  There is no need to imprison people that don&#039;t know what they are talking about, because their ideas can be shown to be wrong.  Irving is dangerous because his historical writings are so accurate and they overturn everything people have been told for so many years.

Please tell me your views of the Weizmann letters Mr.Mabsout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment is not to argue that what was done to the American-Indian was not wrong or a terrible injustice.  My comment is to argue there is not a direct connection between the two (stealing Indians land versus Palestinian land), but there is a direct connection with another huge ethnic cleansing operation the British played a major role in.  This ethnic cleansing immediately preceded the Palestinians being pushed off their land and was perpetrated against whom many Jews have claimed was their biggest enemy ever.  And I do agree with the statement that &#8220;the other who does not surrender fully to you&#8221; will be exterminated.</p>
<p>I have posted this argument before, but I&#8217;m going to post it here again because I believe to ignore it is to ignore an irrefutable fact.</p>
<p>The following is a PDF file containing copies of the actual letters of years of correspondence between Chaim Weizmann (president of the world&#8217;s Zionist Organization and immediately thereafter first President of Israel) and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill.  The letters were copied by the historian David Irving during a visit to Israel.  He was given permission to do this.</p>
<p>The copies are a little difficult to read, so Mr. Irving made two copies of the September 10, 1941 letter from Weizmann to Churchill.  Click on page 25 (on the right of the page) to read this letter.  Paragraph two says &#8220;Two years have passed since, on the outbreak of the war I offered to His Majesty’s government, on behalf of the Jewish people, the fullest active support of Jews in Palestine and throughout the world&#8221; and on the last paragraph page 26, first page 27, writing about the United States, &#8220;There is only one big ethnic group which is willing to stand, to a man, for Great Britain, and a policy of “all-out-aid” for her: the five million American Jews. From Secretary Morgenthau, Governor Lehman, Justice Frankfurter, down to the simplest Jewish workman or trader&#8230;It has been repeatedly acknowledged by British Statesmen that it was the Jews who, in the last war, effectively helped to tip the scales in America in favour of Great Britain. They are keen to do it – and may do it – again&#8221;.  Weizmann is asking Churchill to permit and support the creation of a Jewish division (which will later become the Israeli army) to fight against Germany and in return he promises to bring the USA into the war against Germany.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fpp.co.uk/History/Churchill/Weizmann_Zionists/Weizmann_Churchill_corr.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.fpp.co.uk/History/Churchill/Weizmann_Zionists/Weizmann_Churchill_corr.pdf</a> </p>
<p>The letter is transcribed and readable here:</p>
<p><a href="http://endzog.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/deavid-irving-releases-letter-proving-churchills-complicity-with-jews/" rel="nofollow">http://endzog.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/deavid-irving-releases-letter-proving-churchills-complicity-with-jews/</a></p>
<p>In this ten minute segment of his speech, David Irving discusses Churchill&#8217;s relationship with the Zionists, the letters and how Churchill was paid to make Germany Great Britain&#8217;s enemy.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BpENdKqu0U&#038;bpctr=1343967280" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BpENdKqu0U&#038;bpctr=1343967280</a></p>
<p>In 1917 the the USA entered WW I against Germany due to Zionist pressure and in return Great Britain announced the Balfour Declaration and their intent to create an Israeli state on Palestinian land.  This was right in the middle of WW I.</p>
<p>Germany never wanted to fight Britain or the USA during WW II and they repeatedly made contact with the British to end the hostilities.  Churchill refused and the British and Americans announced the only thing that could end the war was the &#8220;unconditional surrender&#8221; of Germany so the allies could do what they wanted with the Germans.  Over fourteen million Germans were expelled from their territory that they had lived on since at least the middle ages so Czechs, Poles and Russians could settle there.  This was 1945 &#8211; 1948.  Germany&#8217;s civilian population was burned alive in the bombing (tens of thousands of people in as little as 20 minutes) in city after city. Israel was created in 1948.  You are absolutely correct, &#8220;who does not surrender fully to you&#8221; will be exterminated. </p>
<p>Mr. Mabsout, please read the letter I describe (or at least the parts I mention and watch at least the first four minutes of David Irving&#8217;s speech.</p>
<p>I am aware David Irving is the most politically incorrect historian in the world and has some views about society that were common fifty years ago,but are no longer considered acceptable today, but this has nothing to do with his books on history.  Galileo and Kepler were imprisoned and attacked for their views too.  If you really want to understand the history, you have to understand Irving.  He has not been imprisoned several times for nothing.  There is no need to imprison people that don&#8217;t know what they are talking about, because their ideas can be shown to be wrong.  Irving is dangerous because his historical writings are so accurate and they overturn everything people have been told for so many years.</p>
<p>Please tell me your views of the Weizmann letters Mr.Mabsout.</p>
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		<title>By: etominusipi</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 01:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[brilliant insights!

don&#039;t waste too much of your valuable time getting angry with malevolent idiots. i do know that score, and for sure polemic is necessary.

but when the first &lt;i&gt;homo sapiens&lt;/i&gt;, whatever and however, began to recognise each other, they would have soon been stopped in their tracks if they had engaged in debate with the dominant tribe of the entire ape clan.

it is much the same today.

people can be dazzled by the present &lt;i&gt;science-based&lt;/i&gt; array of destructive material technology. but from an evolutionary perspective these highly destructive powers are akin to the breast-beating roar in the jungle of outraged species bypassed in Nature&#039;s relentless search for more perfect embodiment of spiritual intelligence.

the next step is into a wholly new dimension.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brilliant insights!</p>
<p>don&#8217;t waste too much of your valuable time getting angry with malevolent idiots. i do know that score, and for sure polemic is necessary.</p>
<p>but when the first <i>homo sapiens</i>, whatever and however, began to recognise each other, they would have soon been stopped in their tracks if they had engaged in debate with the dominant tribe of the entire ape clan.</p>
<p>it is much the same today.</p>
<p>people can be dazzled by the present <i>science-based</i> array of destructive material technology. but from an evolutionary perspective these highly destructive powers are akin to the breast-beating roar in the jungle of outraged species bypassed in Nature&#8217;s relentless search for more perfect embodiment of spiritual intelligence.</p>
<p>the next step is into a wholly new dimension.</p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
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		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 00:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[some bad news for jay and his people:

http://www.rt.com/news/bolivia-ban-coca-cola-581/

&quot;&#039;End of capitalism&#039;: Bolivia to expel Coca-Cola in wake of 2012 Mayan &#039;apocalypse&#039;&quot;

both coca cola and mcdonalds registering total fails. that&#039;s not supposed to happen in modern, civilized societies...jp is literally beside themselves in aghastcity. :D

the article is interesting despsite the well camouflaged rightwing jewish bias...a problem with all the english language russian webmedia i&#039;ve seen. though it usually is not so buggered neanderthal as one sees in western corporate media.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some bad news for jay and his people:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rt.com/news/bolivia-ban-coca-cola-581/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rt.com/news/bolivia-ban-coca-cola-581/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;End of capitalism&#8217;: Bolivia to expel Coca-Cola in wake of 2012 Mayan &#8216;apocalypse&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>both coca cola and mcdonalds registering total fails. that&#8217;s not supposed to happen in modern, civilized societies&#8230;jp is literally beside themselves in aghastcity. <img src='http://www.deliberation.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>the article is interesting despsite the well camouflaged rightwing jewish bias&#8230;a problem with all the english language russian webmedia i&#8217;ve seen. though it usually is not so buggered neanderthal as one sees in western corporate media.</p>
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