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		<title>By: who_me</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/russia-in-the-middle-east-return-of-a-superpower/#comment-14709</link>
		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 18:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=32382

&quot;Syria is much more the pretext than the actual issue being discussed, because what is at issue right now is whether the U.S. and its allies can arbitrarily violate international law, whether they can subvert the concepts of the territorial integrity and national sovereignty of states, whether somebody sitting in the State Department can determine who has to step down as head of state and who is going to replace him. And the U.S. has done this on a least four occasions since early last year. I’m talking about Ivory Coast, Libya, Yemen and now Syria. And there is every reason to believe that if they are successful in Syria, then they would move on to the next countries. And I would suggest that the twelve countries that voted against the resolution on Friday are exactly the twelve countries that are going to be targeted.

Can you list those countries for our listeners?

Yes. The twelve countries that voted against the resolution are Russia, China, Syria, Iran, Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Myanmar, Nicaragua, North Korea, Venezuela and Zimbabwe.

And you think all those countries are on a hit list for regime change?

Each except for Myanmar decidedly are. And I’m a bit surprised that the former Burma, Myanmar, voted against the resolution as it had not voted against the resolution in February.

Why do you think they did this?

I have no idea. I would have thought that since Hillary Clinton’s visit to Myanmar last November that she had pretty much shifted Myanmar away from China and towards the United States. So, frankly I have no explanation for why they voted against the resolution unless they sensed something. If you’d asked me a year ago it would have been self-evident why Myanmar voted against it, because it itself was targeted for regime change at the time.

Somebody has them on the checklist and I think it&#039;s important that they not be able to make checks in each box. And if developments in Syria, that is Western and allied efforts to overthrow the government in Syria, are thwarted with the continued opposition of Russia and China in the first place, then I don’t think we have to worry about the other eleven nations, because of course Syria is one of them. But should they be successful in Syria, then I think the remaining eleven nations are likely targets.&quot;

with israel/jp at the head of these regime change ops, why is russia still on friendly terms with israel? especially given that jp is the head behind both the &quot;muslim&quot; terrorism in russia and is also responsible (through the jewish mafia, hq&#039;d in israel) for the deadly heroin addiction in russia.]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;Syria is much more the pretext than the actual issue being discussed, because what is at issue right now is whether the U.S. and its allies can arbitrarily violate international law, whether they can subvert the concepts of the territorial integrity and national sovereignty of states, whether somebody sitting in the State Department can determine who has to step down as head of state and who is going to replace him. And the U.S. has done this on a least four occasions since early last year. I’m talking about Ivory Coast, Libya, Yemen and now Syria. And there is every reason to believe that if they are successful in Syria, then they would move on to the next countries. And I would suggest that the twelve countries that voted against the resolution on Friday are exactly the twelve countries that are going to be targeted.</p>
<p>Can you list those countries for our listeners?</p>
<p>Yes. The twelve countries that voted against the resolution are Russia, China, Syria, Iran, Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Myanmar, Nicaragua, North Korea, Venezuela and Zimbabwe.</p>
<p>And you think all those countries are on a hit list for regime change?</p>
<p>Each except for Myanmar decidedly are. And I’m a bit surprised that the former Burma, Myanmar, voted against the resolution as it had not voted against the resolution in February.</p>
<p>Why do you think they did this?</p>
<p>I have no idea. I would have thought that since Hillary Clinton’s visit to Myanmar last November that she had pretty much shifted Myanmar away from China and towards the United States. So, frankly I have no explanation for why they voted against the resolution unless they sensed something. If you’d asked me a year ago it would have been self-evident why Myanmar voted against it, because it itself was targeted for regime change at the time.</p>
<p>Somebody has them on the checklist and I think it&#8217;s important that they not be able to make checks in each box. And if developments in Syria, that is Western and allied efforts to overthrow the government in Syria, are thwarted with the continued opposition of Russia and China in the first place, then I don’t think we have to worry about the other eleven nations, because of course Syria is one of them. But should they be successful in Syria, then I think the remaining eleven nations are likely targets.&#8221;</p>
<p>with israel/jp at the head of these regime change ops, why is russia still on friendly terms with israel? especially given that jp is the head behind both the &#8220;muslim&#8221; terrorism in russia and is also responsible (through the jewish mafia, hq&#8217;d in israel) for the deadly heroin addiction in russia.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/russia-in-the-middle-east-return-of-a-superpower/#comment-14702</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is clear who the aggressor is here.

In today&#039;s &quot;The Sun&quot; (or the scum) has this war mongering rhetoric:
 Israel set to blitz Iran nuke plants:
Middle East war fear as ground attack ‘on way&#039;:
 ISRAEL is preparing for a ground attack on Iran before Christmas after commando dry runs in the Iraq desert, British spies have warned.

Generals in Tel Aviv believe they have until the end of the year to strike at Iran’s nuclear programme.

An assault would spark chaos across the Middle East, plunging the delicate region back into a full-blown war.

Israeli leaders made it clear this week they are ready to launch military action alone to stop Tehran, led by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, getting the bomb if the US doesn’t.

Late October or early November have been identified by intelligence analysts as a likely time because of the US elections on November 6. President Obama and challenger Mitt Romney will fear condemning any Israeli action for fear of losing the huge Jewish vote.

A senior Whitehall source said: “We know the Israelis have been active in the Iraq desert, it would appear preparing forward bases for a ground assault.

“Bombing Iranian nuclear installations will most likely be a part of their plan, but the only way to confirm they have destroyed what they need to is to put boots on the ground.

“It is a very big concern. Iran would have to retaliate, putting the region into an extremely dangerous situation.”

The main target would be a heavily fortified uranium enrichment plant at Fordo, near the holy city of Qom.

An Israeli strike would also spark a crisis within the Coalition Government here. Britain’s decision on whether to support or condemn Tel Aviv would split the Tories and Lib Dems.

An interview with an anonymous senior Israeli politician this week — widely believed to be defence minister Ehud Barak — made it clear Israel had already decided to act alone.

The minister said: “We can’t wait to find out one morning that we relied on the Americans but were fooled because the Americans didn’t act. Israel is strong and Israel is responsible, and will do what it has to do.”

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4491714/Israel-set-to-blitz-Iran-nuke-plants.html#ixzz23oUQTaa6]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is clear who the aggressor is here.</p>
<p>In today&#8217;s &#8220;The Sun&#8221; (or the scum) has this war mongering rhetoric:<br />
 Israel set to blitz Iran nuke plants:<br />
Middle East war fear as ground attack ‘on way&#8217;:<br />
 ISRAEL is preparing for a ground attack on Iran before Christmas after commando dry runs in the Iraq desert, British spies have warned.</p>
<p>Generals in Tel Aviv believe they have until the end of the year to strike at Iran’s nuclear programme.</p>
<p>An assault would spark chaos across the Middle East, plunging the delicate region back into a full-blown war.</p>
<p>Israeli leaders made it clear this week they are ready to launch military action alone to stop Tehran, led by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, getting the bomb if the US doesn’t.</p>
<p>Late October or early November have been identified by intelligence analysts as a likely time because of the US elections on November 6. President Obama and challenger Mitt Romney will fear condemning any Israeli action for fear of losing the huge Jewish vote.</p>
<p>A senior Whitehall source said: “We know the Israelis have been active in the Iraq desert, it would appear preparing forward bases for a ground assault.</p>
<p>“Bombing Iranian nuclear installations will most likely be a part of their plan, but the only way to confirm they have destroyed what they need to is to put boots on the ground.</p>
<p>“It is a very big concern. Iran would have to retaliate, putting the region into an extremely dangerous situation.”</p>
<p>The main target would be a heavily fortified uranium enrichment plant at Fordo, near the holy city of Qom.</p>
<p>An Israeli strike would also spark a crisis within the Coalition Government here. Britain’s decision on whether to support or condemn Tel Aviv would split the Tories and Lib Dems.</p>
<p>An interview with an anonymous senior Israeli politician this week — widely believed to be defence minister Ehud Barak — made it clear Israel had already decided to act alone.</p>
<p>The minister said: “We can’t wait to find out one morning that we relied on the Americans but were fooled because the Americans didn’t act. Israel is strong and Israel is responsible, and will do what it has to do.”</p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4491714/Israel-set-to-blitz-Iran-nuke-plants.html#ixzz23oUQTaa6" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4491714/Israel-set-to-blitz-Iran-nuke-plants.html#ixzz23oUQTaa6</a></p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/russia-in-the-middle-east-return-of-a-superpower/#comment-14671</link>
		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a lot of food for thought in this piece.

i think that as far as the poligarchy operates, countries are obsolete. i don&#039;t think there is an american empire in that america, at this level isn&#039;t america, but simply a tool being used by the rich to attain more control over the planet. by the rich i mean the combination of jp and oligarch capitalism, commonly referred to as the nwo, among other names.

with that in mind, the idea that the usa is opposing russia, or in competition with the eu, is misleading. what is happening is this nwo is using their various tools to gain more power in the various entities named. like the recent financial meltdown was used by jp to consolidate more power in the financial sectors of the usa and europe, the competition between the usa and eu is a way to create weaknesses than can be used to gain control (by mostly jp, it seems here) in areas not yet fully under control.

playing off the usa against russia serves a similar purpose. it&#039;s unclear how much control jp, or the nwo in general, have in russia. their hold over the russian people is less than that in europe, and a hell of a lot less than in the usa. their control of the russian government doesn&#039;t appear to be as strong as the rest of the capitalist west, either, but that may be a deception those government people are playing in order to keep the russian people finding out and reacting. that the russian government goes out of its way not to offend jp/israel is a sign jp has a much stronger hold there than one would suppose looking at the surface level. but it could also be deceptive chess moves that mask a hidden strategy. this makes trying to decipher russian moves with regard to jp much more uncertain.

i think the ultimate target of this nwo strategy is china. they don&#039;t have a hold of china, and china is the only independent economic power capable of surpassing nwo clout. maintaining a very distant hold on russia might be a strategy to get control of china if they use russia to get to china. this might explain why russia is allowed some independence of jp/nwo shackles that europe and the usa are not. if russia is indeed a colony of these parasites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a lot of food for thought in this piece.</p>
<p>i think that as far as the poligarchy operates, countries are obsolete. i don&#8217;t think there is an american empire in that america, at this level isn&#8217;t america, but simply a tool being used by the rich to attain more control over the planet. by the rich i mean the combination of jp and oligarch capitalism, commonly referred to as the nwo, among other names.</p>
<p>with that in mind, the idea that the usa is opposing russia, or in competition with the eu, is misleading. what is happening is this nwo is using their various tools to gain more power in the various entities named. like the recent financial meltdown was used by jp to consolidate more power in the financial sectors of the usa and europe, the competition between the usa and eu is a way to create weaknesses than can be used to gain control (by mostly jp, it seems here) in areas not yet fully under control.</p>
<p>playing off the usa against russia serves a similar purpose. it&#8217;s unclear how much control jp, or the nwo in general, have in russia. their hold over the russian people is less than that in europe, and a hell of a lot less than in the usa. their control of the russian government doesn&#8217;t appear to be as strong as the rest of the capitalist west, either, but that may be a deception those government people are playing in order to keep the russian people finding out and reacting. that the russian government goes out of its way not to offend jp/israel is a sign jp has a much stronger hold there than one would suppose looking at the surface level. but it could also be deceptive chess moves that mask a hidden strategy. this makes trying to decipher russian moves with regard to jp much more uncertain.</p>
<p>i think the ultimate target of this nwo strategy is china. they don&#8217;t have a hold of china, and china is the only independent economic power capable of surpassing nwo clout. maintaining a very distant hold on russia might be a strategy to get control of china if they use russia to get to china. this might explain why russia is allowed some independence of jp/nwo shackles that europe and the usa are not. if russia is indeed a colony of these parasites.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariadna Theokopoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/russia-in-the-middle-east-return-of-a-superpower/#comment-14666</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariadna Theokopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 17:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;A rational US policy to join with Russia and China to accommodate Iran could save the teetering dollar, or at least give the US a chance to prepare for an orderly transition to a new international currency. If Russia, China and Iran defuse the current nuclear crisis between the US and Iran peacefully, with a nod to Turkey and a resolve to make Israel join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, this could pave the way for a new Eurasian playing field.&quot;

This is a utopia predicated on the false assumption that the US is likely to act in the interests of the American people.e
Exactly who? The zionist Congress that has more unanimity about Israel&#039;s wishes than even the Knesset?-- THAT USA? 
Or perhaps the State department? THIS State department:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhS6B9U13aY&amp;feature=player_embedded]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A rational US policy to join with Russia and China to accommodate Iran could save the teetering dollar, or at least give the US a chance to prepare for an orderly transition to a new international currency. If Russia, China and Iran defuse the current nuclear crisis between the US and Iran peacefully, with a nod to Turkey and a resolve to make Israel join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, this could pave the way for a new Eurasian playing field.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a utopia predicated on the false assumption that the US is likely to act in the interests of the American people.e<br />
Exactly who? The zionist Congress that has more unanimity about Israel&#8217;s wishes than even the Knesset?&#8211; THAT USA?<br />
Or perhaps the State department? THIS State department:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhS6B9U13aY&#038;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhS6B9U13aY&#038;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
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