Comments on: Questioning ‘the Holocaust’

By: aemathisphd

aemathisphd — Wed, 07 Mar 2012 02:42:58 +0000

I’m curious to know what you question about the Holocaust. Please be specific.

Thanks,
Andrew

By: Jonathon Blakeley

Jonathon Blakeley — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:31:02 +0000

No it was not a Jewish school. But we had Jewish lessons for some time. I think the cleverness of the Zionist myth marketing is such, that it has very wide appeal. From liberal to labour to extreme right wing they all can relate.

Don’t get me started on the Aborignees, a terrible travesty. Australia is very zionistic in the way Israel is. They see the ‘Abos’ in just the same way. Australians in my experience are generally very racist and yes I do think they see a ally with the colonizing Zionists.

By: Francis Clark-Lowes

Francis Clark-Lowes — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:05:36 +0000

Yes, that fits entirely with what I’m saying. Excuse my asking, but was this a Jewish school? I’m thinking it probably wasn’t. If not, one has the additional interesting question as to why so many non-Jews should feel such an affinity with Jewish suffering and Jewish success. I wonder whether it has something to do with the liberal conscience. Liberals prove their credentials by being pro-Jewish. Perhaps in Australia there is the additional factor on seeing Jews as allies in dispossessing indigenous populations. I note you say you learnt nothing about the aborgines. I have a feeling a similar motivation exists in the US. Plucky little Israel is doing to the Paletstinians what big beafy America did to the indigenous peoples.

By: Jonathon Blakeley

Jonathon Blakeley — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:49:23 +0000

A big zionist guilt trip then... > Here is an interesting true story. I grew up in Western Australia. When I was about seven we had what I now realise was hasbara teaching. In essence we were told the zionist myth > the misunderstood persecuted Jews went to Israel where there were a few arabs there, who were not doing much with the Land. The Jews turned the desert into an oasis and were spiritual and peaceful. Shalom. (No mention of the arabs again) They had Kibutzes and had diferent festivals. I was always a very curious and questioning child. I asked my teacher.

Where is Israel?

Israel is tiny country on the other side of the planet near the Meditarean sea. ~ answered my teacher

Then why are we learning about such a small place (Israel) that is so far away? ~ I asked.

My teacher paused and looked at me.

Israel is special. The Jewish people were chosen to make Israel, and it became an oasis in the desert. They transformed a desert into lush fertile lands. Israel is SPECIAL

Not a lot I could say to that. We spent some time learning Jewish tradition, hebrew and so forth. Bear in mind we never were taught anything about the indeginous aboroginees who lived there, yet we were being taught about Israel. I mention it as example of the reach and depth of zionist propaganda. The Holocaust of cause underpins much of this 'Special-ness'.

By: Francis Clark-Lowes

Francis Clark-Lowes — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:08:18 +0000

It is ridiculous indeed, but very effective. The ‘Holocaust’s’ use may, however, wear out, and then it will become a liability. I predict that the very people who are so keen to insist on orthodoxy now will, when this happens, suddenly start to say: ‘Well, we never really believed that; it was just unkind to the survivors to say so.’

By: Jonathon Blakeley

Jonathon Blakeley — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:36:18 +0000

The Holocaust is just a ‘brand of suffering’, trademarked by Jews. Many people have suffered. Many more have died. Stalin killed more. The ‘Holocaust’ is just there to underpin the “Jewisth/Zionist” Myth. They use it to connect their doctrine from Bible to now and justify their sense of “chosen-ness”. This is ridiculous.

By: Francis Clark-Lowes

Francis Clark-Lowes — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:22:17 +0000

Thanks for your kind and thoughful words. Yes, it is the way you describe it. What I said in my appeal speech about organisations turning in on themselves when their real enemy appears too strong is I think the explanation of this atrocious behaviour. Have you seen how cats will start to wash themselves furiously when they’re frustrated? In a rather similar way these zealots want to cleanse PSC of all thinking of which they don’t approve rather than recognise the real problem faced by the Palestinians, that is Jewish collective power. This is certainly a very uncomfortable conclusion to reach, and I’m also not at all sure how it can be resolved, but refusing to talk about it is not, for me, an option.

By: Happy Camper

Happy Camper — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:07:34 +0000

“But I’ve had a lot of history with this organisation (I was Chair a while back), and would still like to believe it could be a force for good.”

I thought about that very fact on my morning walk, after writing to you. I remember thinking that Mr. Clark-Lowes quite likely put a good bit of positive energy, and a good bit of his life into this organization, only to have it thrown back into his face. But certainly you had to have had a positive impact on the lives of many people, and you are to be commended for your efforts by those of us who recognize that fact.

They have chosen to hand you a truck-load of lemons; it’s a golden opportunity for you to make lemonade. They may try to silence you through stigma and name calling, but in reality, they have elevated you as an example of honesty and truth. You will likely rise above their shortsightedness, and continue to be a positive force for people who need someone like you to speak for them. It’s a stepping-stone toward greater things. Best of luck to you, Francis — and keep fighting the good fight.

By: Francis Clark-Lowes

Francis Clark-Lowes — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:06:49 +0000

You have a point about PSC not being worth my appeal against expulsion. But I’ve had a lot of history with this organisation (I was Chair a while back), and would still like to believe it could be a force for good. But a lot would have to change for that to happen.

By: Happy Camper

Happy Camper — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:51:23 +0000

The holocaust became the most useful “tool” for cementing the belief among Jews, that Jews are the world’s singular victims. There is a great deal riding on the orthodox dogma. The holocaust is a extraordinary cash-cow, and self-pity-cow; it has become the fuel that powers Jewish victim mythology. This self-chosen victim supremacy is chauvinistic and racist at it’s core, and is the cause of a good deal of animosity that gentiles feel for Jews.

You were punished for thinking for yourself, but it is nothing new for humanity. The Bolsheviks killed millions in the gulag concentration camps and the Cheka cellar for having their own thoughts. The Nazis filled concentration camps with people who thought for themselves. That is the company your detractors find themselves in. And since they want to be ideologically aligned with the Cheka and the Nazis, I must ask you, why are you attempting to remain in their company? I hope when you have a chance to put a good deal of distance between yourself and these anti-Semite thought police, you will realize that it is the best thing that could have happened to you.

The fact that this organization has allowed itself to be taken over by anti-Zionist Zionists, and anti-racist racists, only goes to prove that it has been ruined as a force for good. When the anti-Semite police are allowed in the front door, the rot begins.