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Paideia for All or just for “The Chosen”?

Can a Jewish culture institute help save Europe at a time when alleged questions of integration are increasingly causing disagreement in many countries?

The word, or rather the concept, paideia, comes from ancient Greece. It was a system of learning,  complete with instructions, and aimed at giving students enough cultural general knowledge for them to become true, real and genuine human beings. Paideia aspired to be the cultural heritage that is continued through the generations.

In ancient Greece, as with democracy, only the aristocracy were included in paideia, that is to say free men but not women, children or slaves.

Paideia and Democracy as concepts have obviously been affected by the passing of time and prevailing cultural influences. However they are, still today, important symbols of humanistic values and people’s  participation in a state’s affairs, i.e. the power of the people. I have discussed various aspects of this in the article ” The Uprisings in the Arab World – Reflections on Democracy”.

Sweden currently has a European institute for Jewish studies called Paideia. It was founded in 2000 with government funds amounting to 40 million SEK to set it off. Its enterprise is ambitious and takes place within the framework of The Official Council of Swedish Jewish Communities.

One would think that a European paideia institute, in modern times, and acknowledging the tradition paideia stands for, would have an organisation and management that somewhat represents the various peoples, cultures and nations of Europe. Furthermore, a neutral base would be more suitable than the Swedish Jewish council which has its own specific set of ideas.

Of course you might think that there is really nothing to stop the Jewish Paideia from acting on behalf of all Europeans and that it doesn’t matter that the institute is Jewish. However that is hardly the impression conveyed by information on its webside. In a video featuring Paideia’s head, Barbara Spectre, she explains her ”philosophy”.

(note. This video is regularly removed from YouTube by the user, probably because it reveals too much about leading Jewish representatives’ endeavours to play a dominant role in culture and education in the West and how Sweden’s government willingly subsidises the plans.)

The video concerns Jewish beliefs and the process of training a qualified cadre of Jews to lead the  integration movement to save Europe. Spectre does not seem entirely convinced however that this will be positively received by non-Jewish Europeans and anticipates that it could cause resentment, which, one supposes, falls within the framework of ”anti-Semitism”.

Hitherto, Paideia has been such a  success that Barbara Spectre has been awarded a prestigious Israeli prize for her work. It is difficult to see this prize as anything but a reward for work done to promote the interests of the Jewish state. For sure Paideia will get some help from Paideia Trustee, Ambassador Jan Eliasson, appointed Deputy Secretary-General to the UN.

Do European Jews, using the Paideia institute, now wish to take on a leading role, similar to the one  held by the men of ancient Greece, and assisted by millions of taxpayers’ money, develop and consolidate this role? Many questions need answers, but I do not think it is possible to understand the activities of the Jewish paideia without understanding what ”Jewish” is.

The Jews themselves speak of Jewish religion, Jewish culture, Jewish history, Zionism and, last but not least, the Jewish people and the Jewish state. What is it, then, that is so special about ”Jewish”?

I have wrestled with this question, from time to time, my whole life – for purely personal, but also political reasons. I have written many articles on the subject and also published a book. My idea of what ”Jewish” is can be summarised thus:

Most of those who call themselves Jews today, connect their identity primarily to the Jewish state Israel and are secular. Jewish identity is very much about perceiving oneself as special in a positive way, to be chosen by God, but at the same time as a victim, forever hounded by the Holocaust. This is often used as a compelling moral argument to motivate special treatment of the group at the expense of others, mainly the Palestinians. It is also the grounds for what is usually called ”Jewish Chutzpah”, broadly meaning ”reckless audacity”. But most troubling is the idea of supremacy in the Jewish law Halacha, where non-Jews are not seen as real humans. Altogether, this makes a racist orientated tribal mentality.

“Jewish” can, to some extent, be a religion (Judaism), to some extent politics (Zionism) and so on, or a mixture of various things, but only to some extent. Primarily and  fundamentally, “Jewish” means a mentality or an ideology (Jewishness).

Grounded on “Jewish ideology”  Paideia, based in Sweden, now spends 40 million of Swedish taxpayers’ money,  to start with, to spread this “culture” to the whole of Europe. This will, of course, create “anti-Semitism”.

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69 Responses to Paideia for All or just for “The Chosen”?

  1. ariadna March 29, 2012 at 2:12 pm #

    So this Israeli woman leaves Israel (because her work there was done apparently) and comes to Sweden to lecture the Swedes on the need to learn tolerance to be able to live harmoniously in a multicultural society with understanding and justice for all.
    In itself a joke. Like the black humor of Israel razing a Palestinian cemetery to build the Museum of Tolerance on it. You can’t make this stuff up.
    She warns that her enlightened efforts may engender some anti-semitism.
    Why would anyone find this revolting chutzpah disgusting, why, oh, why? And why would anyone find her supremacist garbage about the Jews being the necessary and obligatory moral leaders offensive, why, oh, why?

  2. who_me March 29, 2012 at 4:52 pm #

    this is like having white apartheid supporting relations of afrikaners being in control of a government agency tasked with ending segregation in the usa back in the 1970’s. it’s stinks of the usual zionist deception.

    unfortunately sweden is one of israel’s most loyal european colonies. this is a far cry from the independent sweden of a up to a few generations ago. the creeping infiltration of jewish supremacy and israeli national interests into that state’s society is one of israel’s crowing achievements. the paideia this jewish front for israel is promoting is another name for zionist jewish supremacy. and as usual, it’s the exact opposite of what these zionist jews claim is the purpose of their work to the unchosen rabble.

  3. searching March 29, 2012 at 6:25 pm #

    The saying: “do as i say , not as I do” comes to my mind.
    How Israeli Jews approach “humanity and human values” is clearly seen in the way they treat non-Jews in their own country.
    What kind of “universal, human values” can be taught by the people who value supremacy, discrimination, humiliation , stealing of the land and houses, and killing innocent human beings ??
    What gives them right to treat themselves as a some kind of a “self-chosen ” cadre to lead Europe into , whatever they call it ,”integration”.???
    Unless they really think that they are “aristocracy” of ,not only Europe, but also the world ,and the rest of the world are just merely slaves in dire need of further brainwashing.

  4. pgg804 March 29, 2012 at 9:29 pm #

    Good article, good comments. I think this website is very interesting. The writers are free thinkers and are so much closer to the truth than the mainstream press. I read the Financial Times, Wall Street Journal or New York Times to get the perspective of mainstream press. I read the articles on this website and others to see how the mainstream press distorts, omits, lies and covers up to advance the interests of a few at the expense of the rest of us.

  5. Jonathon Blakeley March 30, 2012 at 8:48 am #

    I find this woman so very disturbing on many levels. Her huge bulging eyes, her witch like face and her imperious manner speak volumes.

    • ariadna March 30, 2012 at 2:30 pm #

      Au contraire, my friend. What I find disturbing is the author of the article, characterized as follows:
      “Today Lasse is neither a Marxist nor a Jew and sees himself as a politically and ideologically independent humanist who regards the fight for Palestinian rights as the key to a peaceful world and Zionism as the biggest threat to humanity today.”
      I think it is alarming that we hear of more and more individuals like him who, if not silenced, will end up giving Jews a bad name, even though they reject their “jewishness,” because you know how it is: to the enemies a jew is a jew is a jew. I find disturbing the idea that this might be catching.

      • Jonathon Blakeley March 30, 2012 at 3:10 pm #

        Ha ha ooo give up… “Au contraire” should be your middle name Ariadna. 🙂

        • ariadna March 30, 2012 at 4:12 pm #

          From Gabriela Au Contraire to Jonathon:

          More alarm bells:

          Mais non, mais non! Ce n’est pas possible! Oo lah lah Vey!

          • Jonathon Blakeley March 30, 2012 at 4:31 pm #

            ha ha ha. Argh Gabriella Au Contraire, sadly I only got C at o’level french. Indeed the – Le errant qui. Next they will have it translated into Hebrew.

          • ariadna March 30, 2012 at 5:11 pm #

            From Ana Au Contraire to Jonathon: I’ll have a new first name every time but the same middle name–just to sow confusion.
            It absolutely must be translated into hebrew. I’m surprised it hasn’t been yet.

          • searching March 30, 2012 at 5:00 pm #

            Sooo ,now French enjoy Gilad’s book as their main,intellectual course. Bon apetite.
            Good choice.
            I feel like I have to buy and read the book or else I will be stuck in appetizers section.

          • ariadna March 30, 2012 at 5:08 pm #

            If you haven’t yet you must repent by buying two–one for you to read, one to give as a gift… I happen to think it makes a great gift.

          • searching March 30, 2012 at 5:19 pm #

            I will consider this “repentance” .
            Sheesh. I didn’t that I should repent on this site as well for admiting to my “wrongdoing”.
            Why I don’t keep my mouth shut:))
            But I agree. Gilad ‘s book would make a great gift and I promise ,I will read it. Eventually:))

  6. Somoe March 30, 2012 at 9:06 am #

    Barbara Spectre – even her name sounds creepy… I completely agree that with the abominable record of human rights violations Israeli Jews have, nobody should be expected to hold up their supremacist, bigoted and racist morals as a shining example of humanity and how to best run an integrated, multi-cultural society. The very idea is laughable.

  7. searching March 30, 2012 at 2:32 pm #

    “Impersonal forces over which we have almost no control seem to be pushing us ALL in the direction of the Brave New Worldian nightmare; and this impersonal pushing is being consciously accelerated by REPRESENTATIVES of commercial and political organizations who have developed a number of new techniques for manipulating, in the interest of SOME MINORITY, the thoughts and feelings of the masses.”
    – Aldous Huxley, Preface to A Brave New World

  8. Paul Eisen March 30, 2012 at 4:58 pm #

    She tells us that Europe is going to be multi-cultural and Jews are going to be at the centre of that.

    Indeed they are. Jews have so often been at the forefront of vigorous (some might say aggressive) multiculturalism – multi-culturalism that is for others – never for themselves

    And why? Some have suggested that it’s because what Jews dislike and fear above all else, are homogenous societies – especially if those societies are Christian.

    • aemathisphd March 30, 2012 at 5:07 pm #

      Perhaps you could offer a reason for that observation? Why might Jews fear homogeneous, Christian societies over others?

      • ariadna March 30, 2012 at 5:23 pm #

        Because all kinds of dangers lurk there: the greatest by far is assimilation. In a society where you stand out as a minority, especially a minority with an exclusivist ideology, some members of the tribe may be tempted to break out and join the majority.
        Another consideration is that the paranoia of the pre-traumatic stress syndrome is attenuated in a “multicultural” society with multiple ethnic-centered political agendas likely to hamper one focused national agenda–always read by these jews as dangerous ‘nationalism.”

        • aemathisphd March 30, 2012 at 5:31 pm #

          But what you’re saying goes directly against the Jewish experience in such countries, i.e., assimilation is inevitable and Jews have been on the forefront of it. The only Jews fighting that assimilation come from the religious communities, which are waning everywhere but Israel. (Nor would Jews urge multiculturalism in a society where they would want to remain “exclusive.”)

          I don’t know what country you live in, but in the U.S., more than half of all Jews marry non-Jews. This isn’t anything new, either: In 1932 in Germany, the rate of Jewish intermarriage was the same, necessitating the labyrinth of the Nuremberg Laws to categorize people of mixed “race” because there were so many of them.

          But back to the point: Minorities of any type, not just Jews, are more fearful in homogeneous societies than in multicultural ones because the fear of outsiders is greater in such societies. That isn’t specific to Jews at all.

          Further, where Christianity is a major factor in a society, anti-Semitism has been a factor, although since the Enlightenment, it has been less of one. E.g., French anti-Semitism can no longer be said to emanate from Christian belief, but certainly in Eastern Europe, it still plays some role.

          • ariadna March 30, 2012 at 6:31 pm #

            “The only Jews fighting that assimilation come from the religious communities, which are waning everywhere but Israel.”

            Not true AT ALL. I am friends with two couples of mixed marriages
            all four people non-religious. Both Jews in these marriages were told by other Jews (ostensibly non-religious themselves, but not in mixed marriages) in almost the same words: “If all jews did what you did we would disappear.” WHO would disappear?!?

            ” in the U.S., more than half of all Jews marry non-Jews.”
            Find out then, please, how many of the non-Jews in these marriages in the US have converted to Judaism vs viceversa, even though they had been self-declared non-religious and then come back and we’ll talk some some more. Such is the pressure.

          • aemathisphd March 30, 2012 at 6:38 pm #

            “Not true AT ALL. I am friends with two couples of mixed marriages
            all four people non-religious. Both Jews in these marriages were told by other Jews (ostensibly non-religious themselves, but not in mixed marriages) in almost the same words: “If all jews did what you did we would disappear.” WHO would disappear?!?”

            Well, that settles that. Certainly your anecdotal experience as a non-Jew trumps my own experience as a member of the Jewish community. Touché.

            “Find out then, please, how many of the non-Jews in these marriages in the US have converted to Judaism vs viceversa, even though they had been self-declared non-religious and then come back and we’ll talk some some more. Such is the pressure.”

            It isn’t intermarriage if the non-Jewish spouse marries. It’s Jewish marriage, in that case. Which means WAY MORE than half of all Jews marry people who aren’t Jewish to begin with. After some percentage of non-Jewish spouses convert, that still leaves more than half of all Jew marrying non-Jews.

            Here’s Wikipedia:

            In the early 19th century intermarriage was comparatively rare – less than a tenth of a percent (0.1%) of the Jews of Algeria, for example, practiced exogamy,[15] but since the early 20th century, rates of Jewish intermarriage have increased drastically. In the United States of America between 1996 and 2001, nearly half (47%) of marriages involving Jews were intermarriages with non-Jewish partners,[16] and a similar proportion (44%) existed during the early 20th century in South Wales.[17] The possibility that this might lead to the gradual dying out of Judaism, much like the historic fate of Arianism, is regarded by most Jewish leaders[who?], regardless of denomination, as precipitating a crisis[citation needed]; some religious conservatives[who?] now even speak metaphorically of intermarriage as a silent holocaust[citation needed]. Overall, there is a relatively high level of resistance to inter-faith marriage in Judaism[citation needed] and this often constitutes a form of self-segregation – preventing Jewish communities from integrating and merging with surrounding populations around the world[citation needed].

          • who_me March 30, 2012 at 6:59 pm #

            “It isn’t intermarriage if the non-Jewish spouse marries. It’s Jewish marriage, in that case.”

            say what, aphid? your jewish supremacism is pretty far gone, isn’t it.

          • aemathisphd March 30, 2012 at 7:06 pm #

            Sorry, typo. I meant “if the non-Jewish spouse converts.”

          • ariadna March 30, 2012 at 7:37 pm #

            Ok, then “mixed marriages” become Jewish marriages after the non-Jew partner converts. Got it.

            Another bigger question pops up though, that of “Jewish blood”:
            would the non-Jewish spouse’s blood then become” Jewish blood” upon conversion?
            That would Jewish transubstantiation, right?
            If so how come no one ever mentioned this Jewish transubstantiation then? I think it is worthy of exploring.

            PS Thanks for giving us all those percentages of Jewish miscegenation in various countries. I have wanted to know them for the longest time but kept being side-tracked.

          • aemathisphd March 30, 2012 at 7:57 pm #

            Ethnicity and religion are different things.

          • ariadna March 30, 2012 at 8:19 pm #

            So then the shiksa will pass her tainted blood to the offspring!?! Yikes!

          • ariadna March 30, 2012 at 8:27 pm #

            Perhaps I should have said the ‘converted shiksa”– since you say conversion makes the mixed marriage a Jewish marriage but cannot change ethnicity, then by rights she should be called a converted shiksa.

          • aemathisphd March 30, 2012 at 8:30 pm #

            No, because a “shiksa” is a woman who isn’t Jewish. If she converts, she’s Jewish.

            Do you need a drawing?

          • aemathisphd March 30, 2012 at 8:34 pm #

            And what makes you think it’s a “blood” thing?

          • who_me March 31, 2012 at 12:06 am #

            that’s quite an interesting worldview aphid has just expressed. when a non-jew converts to judaism to get married, they get to be counted as jews (though they will be on probation for a while, the length of time depending upon the prejudice of the jewish parents of of the originally jewish half of the marriage). but if a jew converts to another religion to get married, it’s still a mixed marriage because the person who was originally jewish is now a self hating jew. 😉

            on a more serious note, it is fairly common for jewish parents to insist upon their offspring marrying only other jewish people or having the person become jewish. this bigotry is quite widespread in the american jewish community, especially in the eastern half of the usa. i’ve seen many cases of this over the years. i’ve also seen many cases where the non-jew didn’t want to convert and that ended the relationship. it is especially weird when the jewish parents and their kid consider themselves to be secular.

            have a look at this video of a radio broadcast from 4-5 years ago in nyc

            “Jewish Girl Prank Calls Her Parents”

            “A Jewish girl away from home at college prank calls her parents and tells them she started dating an Italian guy. The father threatens to kill the guy and the mothers comments are priceless.”

            this was done for comedy, but what is really messed up about it is the bigotry behind this whole thing is never questioned or acknowledged. the bigotry is totally accepted as something good and normal. as many people writing comments to this mentioned, if it was any other group besides jews expressing such obscene bigotry, it would be completely unacceptable. but since it’s jewish bigotry being expressed, it’s totally cool and acceptable.

        • Paul Eisen March 30, 2012 at 6:07 pm #

          You’re too kind to us, Ariadna. Don’t forget simple, old Jewish malevolence to all things non-Jewish.

          • ariadna March 30, 2012 at 6:32 pm #

            That too is the consequence of the same brain washing without which the herd would stop obeying those who need to be in control.

      • who_me March 30, 2012 at 5:48 pm #

        did you remember to check under your bed for antisemites last night, aphid? they are everywhere, you know. stay alert, they strike when you least expect it. nobody expects the…

        • who_me March 30, 2012 at 6:00 pm #

          i’m rather surprised at your expressed fear of homogenised societies, aphid, given your previously espoused preferences for your own kind. you know, israel is one of the most homogenised countries to have ever existed. more so than sparta, even (perhaps misapplied comparison there, since israelis are total craven cowards). not only are the houses made of ticky tacky, so are the people, and they’re shaped like boxes, as well. you’d fit right in. 😉

    • searching March 30, 2012 at 5:09 pm #

      You are very correct, sir. Very.
      Unfortunately. I am not optimistic for the nearest future for us all.
      I try to have hope, becasue I have to ,in a way. But I also try to be honest to myself, and look at the things the way they are. No matter, how I feel about them, whether I like/accept them or not. And what is I see is scary. ON many levels.
      The road that we, as a humankind, are heading to is the major road to self-destruction.
      I think only a miracle could save us all ,and I am also pretty sceptical about that.
      But then, hey, fight we must, no matter what.
      “The biggest achievement is to go through hell ,and not to become devil”.

  9. Lasse Wilhelmson March 30, 2012 at 5:34 pm #

    ariadna, I think u r right. Because ex Jews knows about Jewish ideology by our mothers milk, and in what way it affects our thinking. And this happens not to be just a matter fot Jews only, as most people affected by Jewish ideology r non-Jews. And it is preciseley for that reason we r “dangerous”.

    But donot worry, we r just a few lonely knights 🙂



    • ariadna March 30, 2012 at 6:37 pm #

      Dear Sir, I very much hope you are wrong.
      About only one thing:
      ‘we r just a few lonely knights.”
      I like to think that there are many voices who have not been heard yet but little by little, due in large to the first lonely knights, they will join in the chorus.

  10. Paul Eisen March 30, 2012 at 5:37 pm #

    I agree with Lasse. I hope I’ll be forgiven for saying this but in many ways, you have to be it to understand it.

    • searching March 30, 2012 at 7:04 pm #

      I think I know what the two of you are saying. Many things that I know and feel are still not well digested by even those, who seem to KNOW what is going on, so I just mostly keep them for myself.
      Somebody told me once :”listen to your intuition because it’s connected to the eternal soul, and it’s often right”.
      So I started listen to it more intensively.
      I do not like what I hear. I try to justify it with my reasoning, hope, silliness,etc, but this gut feeling of mine is not optimistic. And I do , HOPE that I am (my gut feeling ) mistaken.
      I would love to be mistaken.

      • Paul Eisen March 30, 2012 at 7:11 pm #

        What’s your gut-feeling, Searching? This is deLiberation, all ideas are permissible.

  11. searching March 30, 2012 at 7:45 pm #

    YOu want me to spill my guts:))
    It’s hard because many people would still treat it a some kind of a loony-tunes ideas.
    You know where those ideas are the most visible??? In the pop-culture, movies, books directed at youth, logs of big corporations etc.
    I did a lot of research on it, and some more.
    I went on sites that I personally do not advise anybody go to , but I thought that the best info is from the lions’ den. I’ve red a lot of controvensial articles , saw many movies that were totaly against my viewpoint, ideology etc.
    I went into a sort of emotional/intellectual masochism trying to dig up the truth. I don’t know if I’ve dug up the truth, but I definately dug up something. It is a somewhat painful and tiny bit dangerous process, ( I went on some treacherous paths, from which l luckily came back, at least I think so:). I discovered also that my faith ( I am catholic), in which I was born and raised, was very ,very tiny and weak, even though before I would never think so. Now I am in the process of redefying it, deepening it. Still searching though. To make matters simpler I will say like that: ” I discovered, I firmly believe that there is a visible and non-visble world. And we are now witnessing a very powerful war between those two worlds.Between Good and Evil.”
    People, who truly believe will know what Iam saying, those who don’t, will laugh. I don’t care.
    One of priests, who is also an exorcist said something like that: ” I do not BELIEVE in God, I KNOW that he exists”.
    I think, I finally start to understand the quote from the Gospel about faith as big as the mustard seed, that is able to move the mountains.
    My own faith was (still is?) as big as a speck of dust. Sometimes I think that finally I start to see the big mystery. But only sometimes.
    I see the whole situations in which the world is currently in a deeper context. I think the movie/book “Lord of the Rings” visualizes very good my ideas. Sorry for being tiny bit incoherent but it’s hard to talk about it, to a such a wide audience, without a feeling that they draw circles on their foreheads as I speak:)

  12. Lasse Wilhelmson March 30, 2012 at 7:54 pm #

    Well Paul, I think tribal thinking is a very old thing, and that is why u find it to different degrees in even “modern democratic societies”. What we now see is a degeneration of western culture and humanism on behalf of tribalism, but also in modern countries like Irak, because of the neo-colonial wars. Theese wars eminates from the Zionist plan of the Middle East 1982, that Israel Shahak translated and then became the Clean Break and PNAC. It was all in the offinn befor 911 and is exactly what we now can see during the last 10 years.

    Sometimes I feel that post-Zionism today is more about Jewish ideology than before, simply because the Jewish maffia has got such a great influence on the production of ideology and Central banking – eg Jewish Power.

    So the tribal ideology is reinforced all over, and dominated by the tribal thinking of the tribe that happens to be “on the top of the foodchain”.

    And the Jewish maffia and non-Jew Zionists among the powers that bee r even the biggest enemy of the greater part of the jews.

    This is exactly why Jewish ideology/Jewisness and Zionism must be deconstructed in order to liberate the thinking of people all over. That is what all my writing is about….

    Well, my fingers made this comment a little more than a comment to u Paul:) But what I mean is that even arab intelectuals have good reasons to participate in this deconstruction but from an Arab angel and thus among themselves.



  13. Paul Eisen March 30, 2012 at 7:59 pm #

    Well, I’m not able to entirely share all your belief but I’m certainly not laughing.

  14. searching March 30, 2012 at 7:59 pm #

    One more thing. I am not Jewish myself, but people very close and dear to me are ,so I do have personal reasons to be afraid of any real,
    ( no the fake, ADL’s style) anti-Semitism), that
    I think is brewing under the surface.
    And like you once said ,the rising of the real anti-Semitism will be mostly due to the global Jewish actions of those, who are in Power, and those willing accomplices, who totally , faithfully obey them.

  15. Paul Eisen March 30, 2012 at 8:10 pm #

    Absolutely, but not only the actual Jewish and Zionist activists, but also all those Jews you meet in your daily life who parade their specialness.

  16. searching March 30, 2012 at 8:51 pm #

    Here is a British man, Malcom Muggerridge,
    who searched for a truth during his whole,very interesting life.
    I do not know if you’ve heard his name.
    Worth checking his ideas and his personal life. One of his later articles.

    • Paul Eisen March 31, 2012 at 9:25 am #

      Yes, I do remember Malcolm Muggeridge from my youth. He was one of a numbert of left-wing intellectuals who moved sharply rightwards on social issue. In his case he became a devout catholic

      At the time I probably opposed him, but now I see him as a welcome counterweight to the prevailing ‘liberal’ orthodoxy.

      Have you ever read E Michael Jones? He’s a very conservative Catholic writer and very anti-Semitic (in the ideological, spiritual sense). I learned a lot from him.

      • searching April 1, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

        I don’t know E Michael Jones. Never heard of him. I will check him out though:).
        I haven’t read too many Catholic writers. Like many other believers, I was (Iam ?:)an ignorant buffoon thinking that I know lots about my faith because ….well.. I just know.
        I’ve recentely listened to the testimony of another prolific, now-catholic writer/speaker and scholar Scott Hahn.
        On you tube there is his great life story of searching for a Truth. He was raised and educated to be a protestant minister and scholar. But something bugged him about his protestant faith for many,many years.
        So he serached , and read, and disccussed, and argued…. And then found it , and he converted to the catholic religion ,which he ,( being very anti-catholic for many years) decided is the true religion.
        If you are in the mood , here is a link to his beautiful, honest testimony of his life’s pursuit.

        P.S. I am a little puzzled by the term you’ve used: “…very anti-Semitic ( in the ideological, spiritual sense).
        Could you please explain it more??

        • Paul Eisen April 1, 2012 at 1:30 pm #

          Yes of course. It seems to me that there are two possible interpretations of the term ‘anti-Semitic’. One is a hatred of all Jews, quite simply because they are Jews.

          I think this is absurd. In all my life, I’ve never met anyone who opposed, let alone hated, anyone just because they identified themselves as Jewish. Either it was because of their attitudes and behaviour, or because of other Jews’ attitude ofr behaviour.

          This leads on to the other posible interpretation which is the one I referred to. ‘Anti-Semitism’ is an opposition to a proposed ‘Semitism’ i.e. a Jewish attitude, tendency, ideology or spirit which leads to a particular Jewish type of behaviour.

          This strikes me as entirely legitimate – certainly as legitimate as anti-Catholic, anti-Marxist or any other acceptable ‘anti’.

          In the current climate, I’d also say that such an opposition is also entirely understandable and also quite necessary.

          Of course the whole thing becomes much more complicated as we explore the possibility that it is precisely that ideology or spirit that makes a Jew a Jew.

          It’s all very complicated and I’ve by no means made up my mind. The big unknown is the possibility of God. If He exists, then all bets are off.

          • ariadna April 1, 2012 at 1:39 pm #

            “The big unknown is the possibility of God. If He exists, then all bets are off.”

            No free agent any more? A divine plan that moves everything?

          • Paul Eisen April 1, 2012 at 1:48 pm #

            It’s possible.

          • ariadna April 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm #

            If “all bets are off” then what do you do? “Get thee to a nunnery?”

          • Paul Eisen April 1, 2012 at 3:06 pm #

            If all bets are off then I have no idea what to do.

            As for taking holy orders, well, it’s not for me but plenty of people have found it to be a solution.

          • searching April 1, 2012 at 3:25 pm #

            Protestants are not taking “holy orders” and they ‘ve managed to dissolve into multitude of different “churches” with its own , oftentimes, very loooney gurus.
            On the other hand, the Vatican seems to take not so holy orders coming from the earthly Powers that managed to find its way in.
            As I said before, the Catholic Church is seriously divided after the Vatican Council II ,and those divisions WILL deepen.
            Personally ,I am very suspicious of a way Vatican goes currently, and I think it’s leading its faithful into a big swamp.
            We do live in a very interesting times. Unfortunately for all of us. Bummer.

          • Paul Eisen April 1, 2012 at 3:28 pm #

            I think E. Michael Jones who I referenced is most concerned with the developments within the catholic church post-Vatican II

          • searching April 1, 2012 at 3:15 pm #

            A documentary: “Expelled, No Inteligence allowed” talks about this in a very interesting way.
            It is available on the you tube for those who are interested.
            Worth seeing. I do ,strongly recommend:))

          • searching April 1, 2012 at 3:11 pm #

            A divine plan that takes into account our” free will”.
            WE do have a choice. And our personal choices we do make. Everyday.
            Sometimes , though , I wonder if this so called ,”free will”, is a curse or a blessing” ?

          • searching April 1, 2012 at 3:01 pm #

            I start to realise one thing.
            That all what we /I know is basically NOTHING compare to the multitude of the knowledege that exists in the Universe.
            My so called knowledge/education is a like a tiny drop of water in the huge ocean.
            As I get older I do become more humble, for I start to realise that there are more questions than answers, more unknown than known, more wonders than things for certain.
            I try to find my own way of thinking in all of it, in this jungle that we called life. Many times I do wonder about that as well. But I guess it is a part of my “stupid” nature, that I have to digest and chew everything. I want to analyse, make sense,interpret, understand, figure out,…etc.
            I am sometimes tiny bit jelaous of the people, who have a simple, yet very strong faith.
            My late grandfather was like that.
            He experienced horrors of WWII, went trough really tough times in his personal life, yet remained strong in his faith that sustained him through all of it.
            A very humble, simple, uneducated, yet very wise in his own way, good-hearted ,
            gentle-man , who had very beautiful, resilient , brave soul.

  17. Laura Stuart March 31, 2012 at 12:23 am #

    You can convert but not be Jewish enough

  18. searching March 31, 2012 at 12:27 am #

    Is this THAT kind of Jewish morality and values that Mrs. Spectre wants to teach Europeans???

    “……Answering a question from a concerned reader regarding the Torah’s position on rape during war, Colonel Eyal Qarim of the Military Rabbinate wrote nine years ago – out of uniform – that ‘prohibitions against immorality’ are removed during war.

    Is it permitted for a Jewish soldier to rape a gentile woman during wartime? This question – based on the biblical mitzvah of Eshet Yefat Toar (“a comely woman”) – was referred to nine years ago (Hebrew) by Rabbi Eyal Qarim. The questioning party seemed anxious and worried, and wanted to know whether the iron-age mitzvah (religious deed) is applicable to IDF soldiers today.

    UPDATE: Following comments doubting whether rape was the issue of the Rabbi’s answer, I post here the question that he was asked….”

    • ariadna March 31, 2012 at 1:58 am #

      I think you fail to appreciate here the religious discipline and piety of the IDF soldier: he wants to commit an act of brutal aggression upon a woman but first wants to make it sure it is sanctioned by the rabbi. What does a non-religious IDF soldier do? He rapes without any good religious feeling. I hope the pious one informs the woman he brutalizes that the rabbi said it was permissible: she would feel a lot better about it than the woman raped by the atheist IDF soldier.
      But perhaps the pious soldier needs to ask the rabbi if it is permissible to inform the woman.

  19. Laura Stuart April 1, 2012 at 4:53 pm #

    Paul “I think E. Michael Jones who I referenced is most concerned with the developments within the catholic church post-Vatican II”

    I would definitely advise any male or any parent with young boys to be concerned about the catholic church with their history.

    I expect he has a perfectly reasonable excuse 🙁

  20. Paul Eisen April 1, 2012 at 5:25 pm #

    I don’t see the connection between Jones’ concerns and the incidence of child abuse within the Catholic clergy.

  21. Laura Stuart April 1, 2012 at 5:39 pm #

    There is no connection – it is random and freely given advice with the best of intentions regarding the subject of the catholic church in general.

  22. Jay Knott April 1, 2012 at 6:48 pm #

    Laura – isn’t it possible that the trial by media to which the Catholic church has been subjected in recent years has a sectarian origin?

    • searching April 2, 2012 at 1:09 am #

      You are correct. The problem of pedofilia, which was swept by neo-modern-Church under a carpet for many years, was /is massivly blown out of proportion by the MSMedia.
      Why ?? I know why.
      Bigger problem with pedohilia exists in educationanl institutions, heath care etc.
      They don’t get such a wide MSmedial attention. WHY?? I know why.
      There is a massive problem with pedophilia and child abuse among orthodx Jews, and it also doesn’t make as a major, medial news.
      Why?? I know why.
      Peodphila,unfortunately, does happen everwhere, but as an institution the Catholic Chuch gets the most MSMedial beatings???
      Why?. I know why.
      Pedophila in the CChurch should NOT happen, especially on the scale as it was, and the problem should NOT be swept under the carpet for many years, as it was, but supposed to be dealt properly.
      For me, it is another sign that the hierarchy of the post-Vatican II Catholic Church is overtaken by the people, who should not be there.
      Some call it the 5th collumn.
      Whatever it is called ,it destroys the CChurch from within. As it was pre-planned.

  23. Laura Stuart April 1, 2012 at 7:23 pm #

    Jay I have no idea about your claim but I do know they abused boys and tried to cover it up. Celibacy goes against human nature.

    • searching April 2, 2012 at 12:55 am #

      Pedophilia has NOTHING to do with celibacy.
      Among pedofiles there are many married men, gay men etc. If celibacy would be a problem, those men (priests)woudl go after women, ( and often they do, plus vice versa).
      It is a serious deviation and those people on top of getting some sort of medical/psychiatric therapy ,should not be have an easy access to children and youth

      • fool me once... March 17, 2013 at 12:16 am #

        “It is a serious deviation and those people on top of getting some sort of medical/psychiatric therapy ,should not be have an easy access to children and youth”
        Rabbi Hershel Schachter, a top rabbinic dean of Yeshiva University, is more worried about a jew being locked up with a black man than the protection of children. To avoid such a situation arising he suggests that the control of the childrens allegations should be handed over to a panel of rabbi psychologists;
        “A top rabbinic dean of Yeshiva University has warned rabbis about the dangers of reporting child sex abuse allegations to the police because it could result in a Jew being jailed with a black inmate, or as he put it, “a shvartze,” who might want to kill him.”