Losers Out
The role played by Israel and the one played by the Gulf countries is no doubt complementary without previous planning or coordination, the British colonialists have allowed – though – some independence for some countries but not for the Gulf countries. He who thinks that US/Israeli relations are stronger than US/Gulf relations is wrong and mistaken and as deluded as the Jews who think that the world order is backing them unconditionally.
The US does not favor Israel over the Gulf Regimes; the US treats both alike since they are both world order police and their function is well defined and restricted to this. They are like identical twins. What has happened is that the world order had usurped the land of Palestine and lent it to the Jews as it had usurped the Arabian peninsula and gave it to the Saudi Kings.
At this point the Israeli rulers and the Saudi rulers are co workers, they work for the same boss, nothing prevents the Saudis – if this is the will of the boss – from extending their power and start ruling Israel instead of Israelis since they will carry on the same duties that were carried by Israelis assigned by their common employer.
There is competition now among Israeli Jews and Sunnis of who is going to carry on the world order scheme and who qualifies better and serves better the policies of the world order? Israelis are faring poorly and have failed in imposing themselves as an indefeatable military power since a few men from Hizbullah were able to defeat them. The Jews have not realized yet the implications of such defeat that will cause the world order to look for an alternative and maybe choose one – finally – to replace them. They have not become aware of how dispensable they are in regard to the world order.
Changing the nature of the rule and the identity and religion of the State of Israel could be become a must where a dynasty like the Saudi dynasty or a rule like the Turkish rule could achieve a better job at a lesser cost and serve better the world order.
This presumed competition between Jews and Sunnis manifests itself also in the relation between Turkey and Israel over the future of the State of Israel and could explain the Mavi Marmara slaughter . Falls under this label as well the shift in the position of HAMAS from the Iranian/Syrian/Hizbullah alliance to join the Sunni alignment of Turkey and KSA and become candidate to the almost vacant job of ruling Palestine on behalf of the world order. This also explains the rush of QATAR in proving its good qualifications and dispositions by contributing directly to the building of Israeli settlements.
The candidates are many and the Israelis are no longer the best qualified. The period of recognition and normalization has elapsed, and what is coming up is a new rule for an old role, and a whole remodeling of the area that proves necessary in order to confront the growing strength of the enemies of the world order and of Israel represented by Iran and Hizbullah.
Israel is NOT up to the challenge anymore and therefore its future is at stake and its destiny threatened and one might even say that the future Haganas gangs are preparing themselves in the form of the fanatic armed thugs that took over Libya and created havoc in Syria, and who seem to get ready for their next assignment that shall consist maybe in liberating Palestine from the Jews on behalf of the world order.
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“The US does not favor Israel over the Gulf Regimes; the US treats both alike since they are both world order police and their function is well defined and restricted to this. They are like identical twins. What has happened is that the world order had usurped the land of Palestine and lent it to the Jews as it had usurped the Arabian peninsula and gave it to the Saudi Kings.
At this point the Israeli rulers and the Saudi rulers are co workers, they work for the same boss, nothing prevents the Saudis – if this is the will of the boss – from extending their power and start ruling Israel instead of Israelis since they will carry on the same duties that were carried by Israelis assigned by their common employer.”
That flies in the face of so much crushing evidence it’s hard to know where to begin. Funny that you see even Qatar’s subservience to Israel as a proof of Israel’s minor vassal status…
“The US does not favor Israel over the Gulf Regimes; the US treats both alike since they are both world order police and their function is well defined and restricted to this.”
strongly disagree. there is no powerful “arab” lobby in the usa. there is some competition in the poligarchy with regard to zionists and the older capitalist establishment, but most of the time they agree. one can see which has veto power when they disagree. when the zionists say no, the others only very rarely attempt to over ride the veto. when the others say no, the zionists almost always over ride their veto.
this is one of the things that frustrates the fascist brzezinski. he’s more older capitalist faction, than zionists, and zionist veto power is something he hates to have to take into account when planning death and destruction of the innocent.
What I am trying to show is that the world order has a job to be done . Israel failed in delivering the job so the sectarian Muslims were given the job . The kind of competition between Saudi Arabia Qatar and Turkey and the remaining sectarian Sunnis on one side and Israel on the other is a competition within the same household and on serving the same interests . And yes the sectarian Muslims , The Qa’ida and CIA is the widest and biggest secret lobby that ever existed .
Daniel – “what I am trying to show is that the world order has a job to be done”.
Yes, but you’ve failed. The traditional leftist line about Israel being subservient to the USA has been demolished empirically by Mearsheimer, Walt and others. Further investigation by Gilad Atzmon and co. has shown why otherwise smart people like Noam Chomsky continue to defend it – it serves their ethnic group.
US relations to the Gulf monarchies are straightforward – they are based on cynical capitalist calculation – these regimes have oil, and the Western powers have an interest in keeping them in power, as long as it flows at a stable price.
US relations to Israel could not be more different. Israel produces nothing of use to the West – except military and security technology, which any other regime would be happy to produce instead. The West supports it because of Jewish power. Opposing Zionism is completely different to opposing the Gulf regimes.
brother Jay , you have failed to impress me . please read this paragraph about the creation of the Christian Israel
THE CHRISTIAN ISRAEL
The English revolutionaries belonging to the Puritans who settled in North America, and gave to the land its major features and characteristics , did not cross the ocean for business reasons or in order to practice freely their belief. . Inspired by Hebraic religious texts , the new settlers considered the new continent a place where the “End of the World “.will materialize . John Smith who established – in year 1607- the first permanent colony in Jamestown, was followed -50 years later by 80 thousands English settlers who founded 18 independent groups, each of them enjoying full sovereignty over his colony . But all these groups had assumed an Hebraic identity and taken the title of “ Chosen people” and consecrated the Hebrew language and asked for the application of Mose’s Law , and called the land that has fallen under their jurisdiction : “ Land of Canaan” and “ New Israel” and “ Zion” and “ Promised Land” and other attributes used by the Zionists nowadays to designate Palestine. All these groups took a special pleasure in exterminating the Native population with one sadistic feeling and one moral legendary justification where they projected , on themselves and on their victims respectively the image of the Hebrews and that of the Canaanites . The “End of Times “or the “End of the World “was an idea that haunted them. Their mere exodus from Egypt/ England to the promised Land/ America , was an indication that God had chosen them to establish the empire of abolishment and extermination on this land that they are destined to rule for the known period of one thousand years after which everything shall disappear . This is how – on the hands of the white Puritan English settlers – the Kingdom of God fell from heaven down to earth and degenerated from a Kingdom ruled by Saints into a Kingdom ruled by the Chosen English men whose task was to replace one people by another and one culture by another and win both the heavens and the earth.
adapted from Prof Munir Akash : The Talmud according to Uncle Sam
ISRAEL : WHO AM I ?
Probably the USA is the first Israel and Israel was an Anglo Saxon dream that materialized centuries before Jewish people ever dreamt of a homeland .It materialized in the North Continent and many Israels were supposed to sprout here and there because it is a plan that was meant to spread . The advanced military base that the US created in Palestine under the name of Israel happened at the time when the area was witnessing great changes . The Arab Revolution through which Arabs sought to gain independence -as a nation -was manipulated by the colonialists the same way the Spring Revolutions were manipulated . It led to the partition of the nation where the Gulf dynasties – allies of the colonialists- were installed in the Gulf .
It is the rulers of the Gulf- among others- that allowed Israel to exist and expand and flourish and – even if they helped the Palestinians financially- they stood as an impasse regarding any attempt at liberating Palestine .At the same time they subjugated their people by owning the country itself and the people, which is a kind of syndrome called the Gulf Syndrome and another kind of slavery or genocide and a different version of the one practiced on Palestinians.
During the first decade Israel fared well in the eyes of its masters, with the help of the Saudis who opposed any form of Arab unity as waged by leader Nasser. It could maintain the Arab world in a partitioned condition , it won all the wars and expanded . It is only during the last decades that it started faring poorly . It will be to no avail denying the fact that Israel is undergoing an existential crisis that was never witnessed before , it is the first time that Israel is trying to find an identity of its own . The question of who are we –as a nation- is being raised among Jews and Israelis inside and outside the occupied territories . For this, intellectuals have been mobilized and debates and studies organized and societies and movements created in order to decide the form of identity that Israel should assume .
Not only Professors like Finkelstein and Chomsky but also Israelis like Shlomo Sands and Ian Pappe and so many others are looking for an Israeli identity to come up with an answer to the question who are we and under what label should we exist? This crisis originates from the defeat of Israel in the two consecutive wars it launched on Lebanon which caused the dissatisfaction of USA. Shameful defeat at the hand of a handful of committed young fighters with light weapons over the fifth army in strength world wide. If Israel derives its identity from being a military state and an advanced military base for the colonialist powers , then definitely this identity is being strongly shaken by this defeat at the hands of determined local people, and definitely Israel will have to look for another form of identity and a role that will secure its presence and existence as something other than a US and European military power. Now this is not easy, and recovering the old military prestige is no more possible. Israel’s own existence is therefore threatened not by Iran or Hizbullah, and definitely not by a possible Palestinian state, but by the immanent danger of being forsaken by the country that sustains it and caters to it ie: USA. If the presence of the strong Jewish Lobby was enough and if Israel’s existence depended on such lobby this identity crisis would not have occurred in the first place or- at least -would not have taken this dimension.
Now Let’s look at the Gulf countries’ or KSA achievements. Form the constant unhindered flow of oil to the historical fall of the USSR to the Arab fake Springs , we have a chain of victories over here that made the glory of the traditional alliance, in addition to the total subjugation of Gulf Arabs and the desired partition of the nation, not to forget the protection of US and European interests. It is enough to mention the fall of the USSR that could have never happened without its spectacular defeat at the hands of the Islamist fighters of al Qa’ida who are the Arab Afghanis recruited by the CIA in Arab countries , and trained in US with Saudi financing to fight the atheist Soviets in a war that was final in bringing the end of what was called the Soviet Union.
The last but not least victories of this alliance happened not too long ago in Libya where the Islamist recruited fanatics –along with the NATO- overthrew Kaddhafi and handed the country to the NATO in a war where US and allies were spared the severe losses they suffered in Iraq or Afghanistan . Compared to the glorious achievements of this holy alliance that are not over yet, but have spread to Lebanon and Syria ,the Israeli condition that is not able to recover from a limited military defeat, seems indeed pitiable . The primary role is given now to the sectarian Islam and not to the Zionist Jew and US will have to change its heart and it will, and the change that Turkey underwent- from a secular military State to a state dressed with Islamic garbs that will introduce it again to the Islamic and Arab world- tells a lot about what is being favored by the world order nowadays .