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Assange on Slavoj Zizek & David Horowitz

Julian Assange’s The World Tomorrow

Slavoj Zizek and David Horowitz are the guests for the second episode of Julian Assange’s interview show, “The World Tomorrow”. “Intellectual superstar” Slavoj Zizek is a philosopher, psychoanalyst and cultural commentator. David Horowitz is a renowned stalwart of hardline conservative American political thought and an unrepentant Zionist.

The tone of the conversation between Zizek, Horowitz and Assange alternated between combative, personal and good-humoured. The topics covered jumped backwards and forwards at a wildfire pace, to include Palestinians and Nazis, Joseph Stalin and Barack Obama, the decline of Europe and the tension between liberty and equality, amongst many others.

27 Responses to Assange on Slavoj Zizek & David Horowitz

  1. who_me April 25, 2012 at 1:17 am #

    “David Horowitz is a renowned stalwart of hardline conservative American political thought and an unrepentant Zionist.”

    i have not seen the program yet, but this line brought on a fit of the giggles:

    “David Horowitz is a renowned stalwart”

    whorowitz is not renowned and he’s not stalwart (though take off the stal and one is getting there ;) ). what he is famous for, for those not born yesterday and dependent on zionist influenced media, is being a money grubbing fraud. he goes where he thinks there is money in it. he ne’s a pathetic me firster joke and always has been viewed as such. if it weren’t for rightwing zionist control of the media, he would have never gotten his 15 minutes.

  2. aemathisphd April 25, 2012 at 1:24 am #

    Already two winning quotes from Zizek: (1) That to compare what Israel is doing to the Palestinians to what the Nazis did to the Jews is tasteless; and (2) That Hamas is in charge in Gaza is a bad thing for which BOTH Sharon and Arafat are to blame.

  3. ariadna April 25, 2012 at 1:43 am #

    Disappointing interview.
    Zizek’s physical agitation and gesticulating energy is not commensurate with the effectiveness of his repartees to the odiously banal and cynical hasbarist that is Horowitz.
    Zizek concedes to H that comparing Israel’s actions to anything the Nazis did is “tasteless.” I suppose the Kosher Lebensraum campaign and Cast Lead are tasteful and Jenin was a chamber orchestra performance.
    Zizek is even unable to counter (other than by mostly snorting) the neocon’s ludicrous claim that Obama is a communist, a claim the former diehard Black Panther supporter bases on Obama’s…. “background.”
    H whines heroically ( an oxymoronic, exclusive tribal specialty) that after his 9 years of leftism detox, when he re-emerged reborn as a neocon, he lost all his friends and had to reconstruct his life.
    I hope that the Kristols, the Podhoretzes, Perle, Wolfowitz, etc and all the other former “leftist” who traveled with him on the same train will not be hurt by this statement, having first-hand experience of such lies.

    • aemathisphd April 25, 2012 at 3:22 am #

      “I suppose the Kosher Lebensraum campaign and Cast Lead are tasteful and Jenin was a chamber orchestra performance.”

      Statements like that one are why a person like you will never be taken seriously.

      • ariadna April 25, 2012 at 3:30 am #

        What did I ever say that gave you the misleading impression I would value your “taking me seriously”?
        Or are you the representative of the Committee for Taking People Seriously and if so is it anything like the Department of Funny Walks)?

        • aemathisphd April 25, 2012 at 3:58 am #

          I’m not just talking about myself: I’m talking about people in general. Comparing Israel to the Nazis leaves a bad taste in most people’s mouths. Statements like yours aren’t going to change that.

          • ariadna April 25, 2012 at 4:18 am #

            So you are the representative of People in General?
            Do they know?
            What made them pick someone special and superior as their representative? Did your PhD degree clinch it?

          • who_me April 25, 2012 at 4:20 am #

            enema

            “I’m not just talking about myself: I’m talking about people in general.’

            as if a self-indulgent israelo-queen would have a clue about what “people in general” might be thinking. :)

          • ariadna April 25, 2012 at 4:32 am #

            As the genius cryptopedophile of English Lit said:
            ‘Give pepper to the little boy and scold him when he sneezes
            He only does it to annoy because he knows it teases”

            Nevertheless you set him off now and he will say I am the reason he is gay and you are gayer than he is.
            Still, to be fair, post for post he is more entertaining than the dearly departed. We should use this one more sparingly to make him last.

          • Roy Bard April 25, 2012 at 11:02 am #

            phd opined: “Comparing Israel to the Nazis leaves a bad taste in most people’s mouths.”

            And yet Mr. And Mrs. Lebensraum from Hebron think it tasteful to ask ‘World Leaders’:

            ‘Is the Palestinian Authority a reincarnation of the Third Reich?’

            Whats your diagnosis doctor?

          • searching April 25, 2012 at 12:17 pm #

            “Comparing Israel to the Nazis leaves a bad taste in most people’s mouths”
            This comparison is made/used so people start to think if there is really a correlation between actions of Nazi state and actions of Israeli state. And they see taht there is.
            It is not meant to chew on it ,( unless you mean “intellectual chewing”).
            You may chew an old shoe, so it does may leave a bad taste in your mouth.
            Try it aemathisphd.

          • Jay Knott April 26, 2012 at 4:05 am #

            “Comparing Israel to the Nazis leaves a bad taste in most people’s mouths. Statements like yours aren’t going to change that.”

            Right. We live in a Zionist culture. But that was not always the case, and it will not always be the case. So watch the complacency.

          • Roy Bard April 26, 2012 at 8:48 am #

            phd opined “Comparing Israel to the Nazis leaves a bad taste in most people’s mouths.”

            During the play “Ghetto,” which portrays the life of Jews in the Vilna Ghetto in the early 1940s at Tel Aviv’s Cameri Theatre, students in the audience made fun of the actors and shouted offensive remarks toward the stage. Some laughed and cried out encouragement during scenes depicting Jews being killed by Nazis, and when a kapo beat a Jew. Calls of “hit him harder” and “well done” were heard from the audience.

            Students cheer Nazis at Holocaust Remembrance Day play

            Wanna borrow some mouthwash Doctor?

        • Gilad Atzmon April 25, 2012 at 7:37 am #

          this is a genius comment!!! We do not need kosher certificates anymore!!

          • who_me April 25, 2012 at 8:30 am #

            “We do not need kosher certificates anymore!!”

            but what about the pickle labels?

          • Laura Stuart April 25, 2012 at 8:43 am #

            Where does all the money go that the Kashrut boards make ?

          • ariadna April 25, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

            The same place where the money paid by Coca Cola (like many other mass producers of food in the US) to have the kosher symbol on all of its bottles and cans. It’s a vast shakdown

  4. who_me April 25, 2012 at 5:25 am #

    ariadna

    “We should use this one more sparingly to make him last.”

    you have a point about making it last…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnyaAmjiVfs

    ;D

  5. searching April 25, 2012 at 11:50 am #

    This intervew reminds me of some tragi-comic farce.
    On one hand we have re-born, Jewish-American diaspora Moses (Horowitz), who wants to squeeze forcefully the last taxed dollar out the US’s public pocket, so the ” HIS” people, living in the Promised Land, ( and who start wars with everybody within 1000000000000000 miles distance),
    are safe and sound.
    On the other hand , we have a gloomy Zeus figure like that occasionally acts like Don Quixote when he fights with windmills of his imagination
    that, in addition, also has a very sensitive palate.
    Comparing Israeli actions to Nazis is just tasteless ,and sullen Zeus’s esthetic bothers him when he hears it. It leaves bad aftertaste for him. Yucky.
    And then …we have very blond Julian, who tries to do something, but it’s hard to tell what.
    I suspect that even he doesn’t know what.
    Maybe he plays the role of a confused public in this show??

  6. searching April 25, 2012 at 12:11 pm #

    This is neat for change.
    Very tasteful :)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McgoNkHUPFw&feature=related

  7. Jonathon Blakeley April 25, 2012 at 10:03 pm #

    Funky style very Cool.

    • searching April 26, 2012 at 1:39 am #

      Hey, the Boss is playing so we’d better like it, otherwise he’ll get a drumstick and chase us out of here :)
      But on a more serious note.
      I like this jazzy/funky/folky/ethno combo.
      Maybe I’ll even start liking a modified version of jazz. Like a folky/jazz type of mix.

  8. ariadna April 27, 2012 at 2:44 am #

    Here’s what someone comments on this same interview on ICH:

    “I would like to see a debate between Horowitz and Gilad Atzmon or Greg Felton. That would be far more interesting and they would tear Horowitz to bits.”

    I could not agree more.

  9. etominusipi April 27, 2012 at 7:27 am #

    i watched a bit but it soon became too obviously a tedious waste of time. Zizek treats ideas as if they were party balloons, to be inflated and twisted into crude animals shapes. Horowitz, whoever he his or was, does not merit any kind of attention – i don’t think he would recognize an idea if he encountered one.

    my only question was: why does dear Julian bother to give these shills a platform. surely there are more mainstream venues, like the London Palladium, that would be more suitable for this kind of clowning.

  10. Jonathon Blakeley April 27, 2012 at 8:59 am #

    It was not a great performance, what with Zizek spluttering all over the place.

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