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Israel — Bane and Boon for the Jewish Power?

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There is a lot of talk about Israel as the State for Jews being bad for Jews worldwide, engendering increasing anti-Israel as well as anti-Jewish sentiment, but I submit that it is primarily bad for Jewish Power, the so-called Zionist Power Configuration (ZPC), insofar as it throws an unwelcome spotlight on it. There have always been subscribers to the Protocols but until relatively recently they have been easily dismissed if not ostracized as anti-semitic conspiracy theorists, and Jews have managed to restrict the gentile book-keeping of influential Jews to counting the Jews on the Nobel Prize winners list.

Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians whose land they took over has been beyond despicable from the very beginnings of the state yet a well-organized hasbara has managed to inculcate into the minds of the Western Goyim the dichotomy: Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims = terrorists vs Israeli Jews = peace-loving, long-suffering victims. Not so anymore. Israel is no longer seen as even a “legitimate” state but a rogue nuclear power, a racist, expansionist war criminal and war monger. Of more concern, in attracting scrutiny of its successful flouting of international laws, it has led to an examination of what exactly allows it to act with complete impunity. It has exposed the lines of power that move the governments of the major world powers, like puppets on a string, to act as its enablers, indeed as its agents. The lines are now seen by more people than ever before to lead to the jewish lobbies, to the ZPC, which does not reside in Israel, but permeates the power centers of the US and the UK, and not only.

The ZPC needs Israel, the flag under which the sayanim can be rallied to march in lockstep (notwithstanding the minor kvetchings that serve to depict “plurality” and “diversity” of Jewish opinion) and to do its work in the “diaspora.” Without Israel the very useful concept of “diaspora” could not exist and the Jews might take it into their heads that they are nationals and citizens of their own countries first, foremost and last. Israel is a boon for the ZPC.

But what kind of Israel would serve the ZPC best? Definitely not the one in existence. The Palestinian “problem” has not only refused to go away in more than six decades, it has in fact grown due to Israel’s egregious actions (and its lack of action) into an impossible to hide or paper over hideous contradiction of Israel’s hasbara posters of itself. More and more people, organizations and governments worldwide are reacting to the reality staring them in the face, and concerted Jewish blackmail or cajoling is not making them back down any more. Israel is a bane to the ZPC.

These facts are recognized by the likes of big ZPC movers and shakers like Soros and by new Jewish organizations like J Street, who seek to address them, while the old guard — AIPAC, ADL and its dershes refuse to do so, not only because they think it can still be all made to go away with the old “Anti-semitism!” cudgel, but also because, on a personal level, they fear the new gang would eventually make them unclasp their paws from the high branch on which they have been perched for so long.

The ZPC needs an Israel it can both wave to the sayanim as the heart-touching symbol, the call to arms, the reproach, the unity symbol, the house that Yad Vashem built, as well as a world-wide sellable story of the success of Jews–a nation like any other (just a little bit more so…), peace-loving (say Shalom loudly and say it often), long-suffering, democratic, moral and just.

If that is what the ZPC needs then they must think that Israel is run by complete idiots. Their idiots but catastrophic idiots nonetheless. Their inability to solve the Palestine problem in the simplest and most advantageous way is proof of it.

What would happen if Israel became one state legally, not just militarily and, where it really counts, de facto, as it is now, and if the Palestinian refugees who wished to return would be allowed to do so? The Jews may become a minority in Israel. So? Is it a problem for the ZPC and indeed for jews in the US and the UK that they are a tiny minority there? Why would it be a problem in Israel? The “demographic bomb” nonsense ignores the reality of Jewish Power. Were Jews to become a minority in a putative Palestine-Israel state, their status might well emerge elevated for all practical and political purposes. They would become the minority to watch for and protect like nobody’s business. What’s not to like in this?

Attractions for the Israeli Jews in the new Formerly Known as Israel (FKI) state: they can have a Jewish Lobby there, and an ADL too! Jewish historians will be busy writing a Revised Revisionist history, recounting their ethnic cleansing in the FKI state during which, say, 600,000 Jews disappeared. They can have it all, the same, yet new and cleaned up.

Most of all, the highly inconvenient spotlight on the Jewish Power worldwide could be turned off and everything would be business as usual again quietly. Critics of the ZPC, of any and all its aspects, from the international banking to the media ownership and the political levers of power in the governments of the major powers will more easily be made into crass “anti-semites” again.

Israel could stop being a bane for the ZPC if only the ZPC “deciders” were really as smart as they are supposed to be, according to the ethnic hype. This is just a Goyische opinion but it is offered freely to zionist plagiarists.

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21 Responses to Israel — Bane and Boon for the Jewish Power?

  1. who_me May 23, 2012 at 10:58 pm #

    Ariadna Theokopoulos

    that view of israel’s behaviour and how a one state solution could be made to work for israel’s jewish populations is pretty much what drives the crypto-zionist left and liberal/reactionary “anti-zionists” like those running the mondoweiss website.

    on the whole, a nicely done piece of writing. i think i only differ from your views about the zpc residing outside israel, since i am of the opinion that part of the zpc does reside in israel and that this part has significant power within that power group. veto power, in fact.

    • Ariadna Theokopoulos May 24, 2012 at 12:16 am #

      ” i am of the opinion that part of the zpc does reside in israel..”

      Only the ‘executive branch,” the operatives. The really big players, I don’t think so. Why would they want to live in that hell hole? Maybe they have a penthouse where their kids come for vacations and moments of verklampt identity bonding, but they don’t live there.

      “and that this part has significant power within that power group. veto power, in fact.”

      I don’t believe that either. I think they have “negotiating” (read “manipulative”) power using the familiar combination of self-pitying whining, guilt-inducing reproaches (“oy, we live here under fire, you are safe and comfortable far away”) but the only factor that has veto power is MONEY, and that does not come FROM Israel but rather has to be kept pumping INTO Israel by the big machers.

      • who_me May 24, 2012 at 12:39 am #

        the veto power is part of the job of mossad. both in the sense of blackmail and assassination. mossad is run from within israel. mossad maintains control odf significant non-israeli assets, both human networks, and material. i don’t see a soros or a rothschild brave enough to test that veto power. and they don’t don’t. what israel wants, they eventually get.

        i also don’t see the rothschilds and soros having any real desire to go against their israeli bros. the differences one sees in zionists over strategy and tactics reside as much within israel as much as within the diaspora. there probably really isn’t an israel faction and a diaspora faction in the sense of separate power blocks having different ideas of how to run things, or even overall goals, but different factions within the zpc with different ideas of ways to acheive and maintain those goals. they are all on the same team, with perhaps some of the israeli members being a little bit more fanatical about their ideas, and having the muscle in place to give their views an added emphasis in the policy choices. in other words, the zios basically don’t differ much, but when they do, the israelis usually get their way.

        • Ariadna Theokopoulos May 24, 2012 at 1:05 am #

          Mossad is the muscle, not the brain.

          “i also don’t see the rothschilds and soros having any real desire to go against their israeli bros. ”
          Nor should they. It is not what I was trying to say.

          • who_me May 24, 2012 at 5:27 am #

            “Mossad is the muscle, not the brain.”

            i didn’t claim they were the brain, but my wording may have not been clear. mossad is a tool used by those running israel, from israel.

  2. searching May 23, 2012 at 11:30 pm #

    “Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians whose land they took over has been beyond despicable from the very beginnings of the state yet a well-organized hasbara has managed to inculcate into the minds of the Western Goyim the dichotomy: Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims = terrorists vs Israeli Jews = peace-loving, long-suffering victims.
    Not so anymore.
    Israel is no longer seen as even a “legitimate” state but a rogue nuclear power, a racist, expansionist war criminal and war monger. ”

    Very good article, worth spreading on many sites.

  3. Blake May 23, 2012 at 11:33 pm #

    They are only as good as their last lie.

  4. Jay Knott May 24, 2012 at 7:09 am #

    Ariadna is one step ahead. It’s not about Israel, it’s about Jewish ethnic power internationally. Even if there was no Jews-only state, that would still be a problem.

    • Ariadna Theokopoulos May 24, 2012 at 2:21 pm #

      Indeed, that’s the idea, Jay.

    • who_me May 24, 2012 at 4:52 pm #

      Jay Knott

      “Even if there was no Jews-only state, that would still be a problem.”

      i don’t disagree with that. my quibble with at was that israel was this powerless pawn of diaspora jews.

      • Ariadna Theokopoulos May 25, 2012 at 4:53 am #

        You misread me and apply your own exaggerated qualifiers.

        Not of “the diaspora jews”–not of Bernie who has a Chevrolet dealership and his friends, and not “powerless” but dependent.

        • who_me May 25, 2012 at 6:22 am #

          Ariadna Theokopoulos

          if not bernie, then who? a rothschild? they only run a few international banks, bernie owns a used car lot. how could they even compare?

          you gots me confused.

          • Ariadna Theokopoulos May 25, 2012 at 9:01 pm #

            You’re right. What was I thinking? Haaretz says so too:

            “We Jews have suffered a lot from manipulative rhetoric that engenders hatred. We know what it’s like when anti-Semites say, ‘The Rothschilds are the world’s most powerful bankers – that means that Jews rule the world.’ ”

            http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/strenger-than-fiction/lieberman-s-boorish-behavior-harms-israel-s-international-standing.premium-1.432659

          • who_me May 25, 2012 at 9:45 pm #

            what would happen if a rothschild were to openly call for israel’s dissolution and seriously tried to effect that? now suppose his efforts were popular and very likely to bring about israel’s demise. media discredit failed, the attempt to dsk him failed, his movement still gained strength. people are listening, formerly captive governments are listening.

            would the israelis go along? or would he meet the fate of shamir?

            obviously this is a theoretical question as there is no evidence any of the zionist leadership, inside or outside israel, is ready to throw israel under the bus yet. but the way things are going, that time may come sooner than we think. sites like mondoweiss exist mainly for damage control should the time come when israel will have to be abandoned and the popularity of such an out come seems to be continually rising. it’s a real probablity that israel wont be around that much longer.

            then what? would the israelis let it happen without meeting it with serious assassination and terrorist operations, not only against the “evil goyim”, but also against their fellow jewish zionist “traitors” in the zionist leadership?

            i think they would if pushed up against the wall to that extent. and that is what i mean by “israeli muscle”. i think the israelis would take out fellow jewish zionists rather than give in to their own dream dismantled. i also think this is the ultimate meaning of the samson option, the “we’ll take all of you out if you attempt to destroy us” threat. i think that threat is primarily directed towards jewish diaspora zionist leaders.

            the israelis can do it, the jewish diaspora leadership knows this. the question is it a bluff, would the israelis take it that far?

            my belief is that the zionist “project” was initiated outside israel (well duh), and initially that was where the control was, but sometime during the late 20th century, the israelis acquired a stronger position in the leadership and ceased being the juniors. not really seniors, but powerful enough to prevent actions by outsiders that they strongly disagree with. this is why it seems israel always gets its way when an inter zionist conflict arises.

          • Ariadna Theokopoulos May 25, 2012 at 9:52 pm #

            “what would happen if a rothschild were to openly call for israel’s dissolution and seriously tried to effect that?”… “obviously this is a theoretical question..”

            No. it is not theoretical, it is nonsensical. Why would they do that?

          • who_me May 25, 2012 at 10:03 pm #

            “Why would they do that?”

            i thought the debate was whether israel is a junior or equal/senior actor in the zpc? if israel is junior, then they are ultimately expendable in the eyes of the diaspora, should the need arrive. if it gets to the point that maintaining israel serious threatens jewish dominance in the western power structure, then the zpc would have to cut lsrael loose. if the diaspora is in the captain’s seat, they can do it. if not, and the israelis resist their own demise? then what?

            that’s why.

          • Ariadna Theokopoulos May 25, 2012 at 10:10 pm #

            You make some serious, unjustified leaps. Why throw the baby with the bath water?
            My opinion, detailed in the article is summarized in the title: Bane AND Boon.

          • who_me May 25, 2012 at 11:25 pm #

            “No. it is not theoretical, it is nonsensical.”

            it is theoretical, with regards to the west, but not nonsensical. the ending of outsider jewish zionist support for israel has happened before. it can happen again.

            initially the ussr supported zionist settlement and backed the formation of israel. they even helped arm the zionist jews (through cz) during the war against the palestinians that created israel. they also supported the early israel diplomatically at the un.

            but afer the death of stalin, that all changed. the soviets stopped supporting israel and put their support behind the arab nations opposed to israel. what happened within the ussr that brought this change about is debatable, just as jewish influence within that country is, but the change towards israel, around 1954, was an outward reflection of it.

            if jews ran the ussr, as is usually posited by the right (1), what made those jews stop supporting israel (2) in 1954? politics. those zionists realised they had to cut israel loose or face the consequences at home. so they pretty much cut israel loose. from 1954 to the late 80’s, israel got no help from the soviets. the jewish support there for zionism had to have been neutered and the zionists themselves must have chosen to end that support.

            as the israelis were not in a position to effectively retaliate inside the ussr, and wanted american support, anyways, such a turnabout would be relatively painless for soviet jews. it wouldn’t be so for western jews now.

            (1) it is debated whether jews really did run the early ussr under stalin, whether being jewish, or having been jewish, was a factor in what they did, and so on. that’s a whole other argument. i’m leaving it as if they did have a very significant role, that their jewish past was a significant factor of their views and actions and zionism was part of this (based upon the support the ussr gave to zionism up to stalin’s death).

            (2) soviet jewish support for israel may not have changed with stalin’s death and the subsequent destalinisation, but it definitely no longer voiced itself openly. there is debate about how strong soviet support for israel was and why it existed. whether it was something due to zionist thinking or a seemingly practical move to gain influence with the new israeli state. while soviet support was strong for israel initially (they helped arm them), it did fall during stalin’s last years. as the support netted the soviets zero influence in israel, the end of that support could reflect the understanding it was a waste of effort. given the israeli leadership were basically, and literally, far right fascists, first aligned with italian and spanish fascists (and some nazi connections) and then aligned with american fascists, it is questionable why the ussr would have ever bothered thinking they could influence such movement and later country. this leaves me thinking it was tribal jewish support for zionism within the ussr that was behind their early zionist support, not the mistaken idea they could have some influence with the fascists of israel or the zionist movement. post 1954, there was less tolerance for judaism in the ussr. jews may have remained significant demographically in the power structure, but they did so without being religiously jewish. the 1954 change towards jews may reflect the changes destalinisation brought and response to jewish influence during stalin’s time.

  5. searching May 24, 2012 at 3:31 pm #

    there are only two major Powers in the world.
    The Power of God and the Power of Evil/satan. Everything is a derivative of those Two Powers.
    When God’s laws will be removed/destroyed, and replaced by the satanic laws ,not only christians/catholics will suffer.
    The whole civilisation will be doomed.

  6. Ariadna Theokopoulos May 25, 2012 at 9:03 pm #

    And here comes Ms Kabbalah with Diamond Crosses (not to be confused with Lucy in the sky with diamonds):

    http://www.haaretz.com/culture/arts-leisure/madonna-arrives-in-israel-ahead-of-tel-aviv-concert-1.432657

    • who_me May 25, 2012 at 9:51 pm #

      hope she remembered her strap-on. otherwise, bennies “disappointment” could result in a new invasion of gaza, or worse.

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