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Is it an Israeli False Flag Again?

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By Gilad Atzmon

Israeli press reported this evening that French gunman Mohamed Merah had been on a trip to Israel in the past.

According to the report, Merah’s passport had Israeli stamps in it. The purpose of his visit is  unknown. Israeli analysts suspect he was either trying to visit the Palestinian territories or preparing for a terror attack.

However, I won’t rule out the possibility that Merah was actually trained by Israeli forces. Marah may have conducted a false flag operation. By way of deception is,  after all, the Mossad’s motto.

Read the story of Naeim Giladi, an Israeli agent operating in Iraq in the late 1940’s.

“On May 10, at 3 a.m., a grenade was tossed in the direction of the display window of the Jewish-owned Beit-Lawi Automobile Company, destroying part of the building. No casualties were reported.

On June 3, 1950, another grenade was tossed from a speeding car in the El-Batawin area of Baghdad where most rich Jews and middle class Iraqis lived. No one was hurt, but following the explosion Zionist activists sent telegrams to Israel requesting that the quota for immigration from Iraq be increased.

On June 5, at 2:30 a.m., a bomb exploded next to the Jewish-owned Stanley Shashua building on El-Rashid street, resulting in property damage but no casualties.

On January 14, 1951, at 7 p.m., a grenade was thrown at a group of Jews outside the Masouda Shem-Tov Synagogue. The explosive struck a high-voltage cable, electrocuting three Jews, one a young boy, Itzhak Elmacher, and wounding over 30 others. Following the attack, the exodus of Jews jumped to between 600-700 per day.

Zionist propagandists still maintain that the bombs in Iraq were set off by anti-Jewish Iraqis who wanted Jews out of their country. The terrible truth is that the grenades that killed and maimed Iraqi Jews and damaged their property were thrown by Zionist Jews.”

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  2. Two things are suspicious:
    – that he got into Israel with no problem when he was on the US No-Fly lists. Israel bans people from entering who just have participated in peaceful demonstrations against Israel; and
    –that “a little known group” declared responsibility for it today (Thursday).
    The latter also clashes with the French preliminary conclusion that he had acted alone, but in general “heretofore unknown” or “little known” groups who waiut a couple of days to claim responsibility smell bad.

      • Well, why not ask if the recent massacre in Afghanistan was a Muslim false flag operation? These kind of wild speculations don’t help the cause. Looking for little bits of data to confirm what you want to believe isn’t a rigorous method of enquiry.

        • “why not ask if the recent massacre in Afghanistan was a Muslim false flag operation?”

          You could not have picked a more ridiculous false parallel, Jay.
          1. TRACK RECORD means nothing to you?
          When A has a track record of false flag ops as an MO, whereas B does not, you cannot in good conscience (and logic) claim that the odds are equal for A and B. This “balanced approach” you propose makes no sense.
          2. MOTIVES as a criterion means nothing to you? False flag ops carried out by Israel in which jews are killed are clearly designed to terrorize them into moving in the desired direction. What motive could the Afghans have to conduct a FFO massacre of their people — for which, by the way, the US did take responsibility (or are the US in cahoots with them?)? Are they worried that their people do not hate the Americans enough?

          • No matter if the recent event was Mossad- initiated or not, it will be used by a Zionistic Jewry as a global, wake-up call of “antisemitism on the rise”, and “stop your arguments and divisions, go to mama Israel”, “all goym were/are bad , now they are becoming even worse, we can NEVER trust them”, and similar type of collective cries, whining, scare-tactics and search for a anti_semitic bogey man sharpening its teeth. You reap what you sow.
            I think poeple , globally, are getting tired of listening to it, especially knowing about “shenanigans” that are/were commited by Zionists and its allies.
            There is a point when enough is enough.
            The times we are living are getiing crap***ier.
            BTW. I love the Mahatma Gandhi ‘s message on your website’s logo.
            “Whenever you have truth it must be given with love, or the message and the messenger will be rejected .” I have to remeber it since.Beautiful ,and so true.

          • Ariadna – any political or military organization or state might carry out a ‘false flag operation’ if it were capable of discrediting its enemies by doing so. But mostly they don’t need to, since there are plenty of enemies capable of doing stupid barbaric things on all sides. It’s difficult to know who has the worst ‘track record’, since by their nature these ops are well covered up. It puzzles me when a group of amateurs claims to have uncovered a spectacularly complex and difficult black operation – if they’re so clever, how do amateurs catch them out so easily?

  4. I love been suspicious, that brings me to a next assumption as I am always looking for the “real” truth.
    Talking about Mosad and as Gilad mentions “We obviously don’t know, neither me nor you. But what make you so sure?”
    Who knows…… could it be that Atzmon himself is a Mosad agent, as he brings it up as an old tactic.
    Or This blog…… there are suspicious in everyone.
    Taking the last month shacking situation of Palestinian solidarity movement and all the accusations running, I find it logical that Atzmon might be in a mission ……. might be right or wrong.
    I find extreme persons with too extreme ideas, suspicious…,……we can never be sure…… don’t we ????

  5. Eldon,
    Stop being an idiot because it’s neither funny or smart.
    Mossad is known for its false flag operations. If you are known to be a compulsive lier (or cheater),it is not a surprise that people suspect you of telling a lie ( or cheating) even if you claim that you are telling the truth (or do not cheat).

  6. Prof Finkelstein is about to publish a book ,( in May) about a falling support for Israel from young/middle aged Jews in America. Many Jews start to see the brainwashing indoctrination they’ve been exposed to. The new generations are not that loyal ( and that generous)to Israel as Israel would like them to be.
    Maybe those false flag operations want to give a signal to all Jews scatterd all around the world that THEY should Unite, stay toghether no matter what, because the big, antisemitic wolf is about to eat them again?? It is playing loudly the fine tunes on the Pre-Traumatic Stress disorder.
    “Listen to your grandama and grandma , don’t stray to much into goyim quarters, They are about to eat you alive. That’s what they always wanted to do. You see what they’ve done to this Gilad Atzmon?? They’ve turned him around. He become one of them. What a pity. And I’ve even liked his music.”

  8. What an beautiful dream, Eldon!
    I wish I had your optimistic view, Imagining that Gilad was a MOSAD agent, believing that the MOSAD has somehow, secretly and miraculously become a force for good, determined to cleverly expose the racist and criminal enterprise called Israel.
    Not true that on this blog “they are suspicious of everyone”–I don’t know if anyone is suspicious of you but I, for one, am convinced that you are an idealist with childish fantasies.

  9. Mr Atzmon, When you first read about something negative which happened around the world do you first think the Zionists did it and then try your best to find reasoning as to why, or do you first find some trivial circumstantial evidence which which makes you think it might be the Zionists?
    When activist Vittorio Arrigoni was murdered in Gaza, and you immediately claimed, you don’t believe it was done by Palestinians and pointed the finger toward Israel.
    When Juliano Mer an Israeli-Palestinian peace activist was murdered in Jenin you talked about the IDF trains special units that are operating disguised as Palestinians.
    After the massacre in Norway you talked about the murderer being a “Sabbath Goy” giving all sort of reasoning why it was done by Israel.
    9/11 was a false flag of course and I am sure the list goes on and on.

    • Cosmo, you like asking questions, do you like answering them I wonder?

      See if you can tackle this one:

      Do you think that Palestinian resistance might have something to do with the fact that Palestinians have been dispossessed and treated like shit for the past 60 years?

      Or is this just a vile anti-semitic conspiracy theory put about by jew-hating, tirrist-loving troofers?

        • But it is a misnomer to call it Palestinian resistance anyway, isn’t it? Palestinians don’t exist. Those terrorists are Arabs who came from the neighboring countries seeking the good life after Israel made the desert that was Palestine (another misnomer) bloom.
          If they had been peaceful, that would have been fine because the Israelis are peace-loving, tolerant people, but from the beginning they did horrible things. No wonder Golda Meyr hated them for making her killing their children. Even so the Israeli army treats them with kid gloves because the IOF (sorry, IDF) has “purity of arms.”
          Have a I missed anything important?

          • “Nothing but straw men.
            You might be the worst debater I’ve ever seen.”
            Ha ha the irony. 2 clichés to denounce someones debating skills. Mathis, you’re so funny, with all your contradictory ejaculations. Do you see yourself as a Masterdebater then, or one of a circle, especially chosen, for the job in hand?

          • I’ll take that as a “no.”

            I’m done paying you any attention. Have the last word if you like it; I won’t be responding from now on.

          • “I’m done paying you any attention. Have the last word if you like it; I won’t be responding from now on.”

            Now THAT’s a way to sow discord among us! Making us jealous.
            What does fool me once have that I don’t? Why do you select him for favored status?

          • I’d have to agree. Really spinning wildly in every direction, undergirded by an obvious lack of facts, but supremely convinced of her own wit.

          • Even more so. Why don’t you decide to stop “responding from now on”? Why favor only fool me once with this privilege?
            As for “supremely”… I’m surprised at you, the master analyst of “projections,” makinh this gaffe– your mentality is peeking out. Pull it in.

          • I haven’t said any of that. Palestinians exist and even if it was only outer forces the Zionist movement and British that made them differentiate themselves as a people. I respect and accept them as a a separate people if they chose to be. Yes some Arabs moved to Israel during the mandate years, I don’t claim all or most Palestinians were immigrants. I do believe that if the Arabs would have accepted the partition plan things would have been peaceful.
            As for the IDF’s purity of arms yes I do believe the Israeli standards are among the highest in the world.

          • Cosmo, “Palestinians exist…” – well, thanks for clearing that up. In fact, they’ve existed, believe it or not, longer than the israeli’s, peacefully I might add. Did you not know that?
            “I respect and accept them as a a separate people if they chose to be.” – What, separate from Palestine? Explain, how does that work?
            “I do believe that if the Arabs would have accepted the partition plan things would have been peaceful.”
            What makes you think they have to accept anything outsiders offer?
            “Purity of arms”?!!? Listen son, the idf break that code every minute of every day. Wise up, you’re being lied to. Have you served in the idf? I implore you to make it your personal mission from today, to educate yourself on the plight of the Palestinians.
            Cosmo, 5 questions – 5 answers please.

          • As for your first two question I mean separate people from Syrians Jordanians and so on. I believe that if it weren’t for the drawing of the lines by the British and the fact Zionists wanted to build a nation there. Palestinians would have thought of themselves as part of the Arab nation and not a separate people. An Arab from Haifa wouldn’t think of an Arab from Umm Al-Rashrash as part of his people but an Arab from Damascus as a member of a separate “people.
            They existed but as individuals but the historic Palestine” they continue to refer to is a term made up only to dispossess Jews from the state of Israel. Old maps of what was “historically” called Palestine include parts of Jordan and Lebanon sometimes do not include southern Israel. For some reason Palestine became a term to only places that can be taken away from Jews. Parts of Palestine are controlled by Arabs in what became Lebanon…we don’t want them. 48-67 Egypt and Jordan illegally take over Gaza and West Bank that isn’t really Palestine we need to focus on freeing only what is Israel.

            What makes you think they have to accept anything outsiders offer?

            Well the have been occupied by outsiders for centuries and finally after 400 years of Ottoman occupation they are being offered for the first time in their history sovereignty and self determination without having to win a war or fire a single bullet to get it. So it isn’t a perfect offer but in retrospective and seeing where they are now it was a good offer.
            For your last question yes I have served in the IDF and still do in reserves. I don’t think there is an Army out there are individual cases where soldiers break the code but I don’t think any army in the world would have performed better in this type of situation.

          • Cosmo, you’ll have to forgive Ariadna. She’s arguing with a phantom, but she thinks that phantom is you.

  10. Thanks Cosmo.

    Since you are incapable of answering a (straight) question (“do you think Palestinian resistance have anything to do with the fact that the Palestinians have been dispossessed and treated like shit?”) why should anyone bother asking your (devious) questions?

    • I told you why I think the major cause is. The Palestinian wish to take over and control all the land between the river and the sea and remove any sort of Jewish sovereignty in what they consider a Muslim land.
      I can’t give you a yes or no answer to that question. I agree to some parts of what you said, Palestinian resistance does have something to do with the fact they perceive themselves as dispossessed. I can’t agree that they have been treated like shit. I agree that in general they should have been treated better in many cases.

      • “I can’t give you a yes or no answer to that question”

        I know, that is why I asked it. It was an easy yes/no question that only asked you what you think.

        If you answered “yes” then the wwhole justification for Israel collapses.

        Whereas if you answer “no” then it would be a palpable lie.

        Therefore you dissemble, as people do when their position is wholly untenable.

        Unfortunately, being Chosen, you think deviousness and dissembling is your God-given right.

        • You know 99 times out of 100 when I hear people talk about being chosen in these types of discussions its comes from people using it to attack Jewish people and not from pro Israel Jews speaking about their supposed “chosenness”.

          • “99 times out of 100 when I hear people talk about being chosen in these types of discussions its comes from people using it to attack Jewish people and not from pro Israel Jews speaking about their supposed “chosenness”.

            Got it. The former don’t talk about it with the required reverence. They hold nothing sacred, I swear.

  11. searching
    This is supposed to be a blog for open minded people and not blockheads that never think.
    Everything is possible, what makes you think Atzmon is not a Mosad agent…. any logic ???
    to be opened minded is to expose everything and if you are not capable, I guess that’s not the place for you.
    I do not excuse Atzmon, I just express my assumptions and if its to much for your small brain, that’s your problem
    Cosmo, there is something in your words, as Atzmon consistent looks as you mentioned “try your best to find reasoning as to why, or do you first find some trivial circumstantial evidence which makes you think it might be the Zionists?”
    If it was a coincidence or a one time attempt ok, but as it is consistent….. Makes me wonder what’s his motive, we are all aware that in s struggle, both sides are fighting each other….. so as the Zionist are to blame in many occasions, because they are filth,so is the other side…. so this attempt is not just strange but Stupid and once the real truth comes out Atzmon is looked like an Idiot.

    I am back to my fist issue…. any one has something to say about Atzmon being a Mosad agent, without throwing poor propaganda smears.

    • If this is a blog for “open minded people” as you claim, then I don’t understand what YOU are doing here with your view/head thick as a brick???
      I actually think that you might be a Mossad agent. Although………..on the second though, hm?? Probably not. But, then, maybe the ones with the lower IQ fulfill the lower ranks of the Mossad agency.??.
      I guess you are rather a harbarist type, pest like troll that sits on the sites and throws some venom here and there.
      I will tell you something in a great secret.
      Gilad Atzmon is an UFO agent. They dropped him on earth about 10/20 years ago, gave him a human form, taught him how to play jazz and voila!,here he is. Good job. Heh??

    • “any one has something to say about Atzmon being a Mosad agent, without throwing poor propaganda smears”

      No propaganda. I am telling you in all sincerity that I wish from the bottom of my heart that Gilad were a MOSDAD agent.
      The problem is that I am incapable of such blind optimism.

  12. ariadna

    Do you think Atzmon is “a force for good, determined to cleverly expose the racist and criminal enterprise called Israel.” ?
    Look of the split in the Palestinian movement, look at the bad yes bad public relations he causes the Palestinian cause as world wide it is published that the Palestinian engagement with Anti-Semite Atzmon” is bad for the Palestinian cause.
    Don’t drop to conclusions, I do not blame Atzmon of being an Anti-Semite at all, I just see the total picture.
    His tactic is always once he is been attacked by Palestinians, he publishes critics about Israel, to get back into the route of people as you that will thing that he is the one to expose the racist and criminal enterprise called Israel.;…..
    There are many who are doing the same job, but on the other hand do not destroy the Palestinian movement.

    • I’ll tell you exactly what I think without sparing Gilad.
      1. Yes, I think he is a tremendous force for good in EVERYTHING he writes and talks about, not only about Israel, which is apparent if one looks at what you inspiredly called “the total picture.”
      2. True, his caring and empathy suffer from a lack of focus and specificity. He does not seem to have your discerning taste and applies them to HUMANITY, without caveats, codicils, and special tribal provisions.
      3. No, I don’t think he does the best job of exposing the racist and criminal enterprise because in all fairness he can only come in second; nobody, absolutely nobody can beat Israel itself at that.
      4. As for your sincere worry about the putative harm he is doing to the “PR” of the Palestinian movement, I’d like to assuage your fears by offering the following for consideration:
      – Coming from the zionist world view it is understandable that you place so much weight on PR. To you it is the spin that counts in molding what the Goyim world thinks. Operation Cast Lead, the invasion of Lebanon, the piracy act and killing of unarmed peace volunteers were all discussed by zionist pundits not as crimes, but as potential “bad PR for Israel.”
      The Palestinians do not need PR. They need JUSTICE.
      – Are you really trying to make anyone believe that:
      (a) Gilad–or for that matter anybody else– can, by criticizing Israel, “destroy the Palestinian movement”?!
      (b) What eats at your liver is the potential destruction of the Palestinian movement? Is that what yoiu are doing? Shoring it up?

      What I think Gilad has done that really scares the hell out of you is that he has held a mirror to Jews –Israelis and worldwide–and simply invited them to try some introspection. Others have done it also (e.g. Paul, to cite just one other) and if the number grows and grows you are up the proverbial non-kosher creek without a hasbara paddle.

      • “– Coming from the zionist world view it is understandable that you place so much weight on PR. To you it is the spin that counts in molding what the Goyim world thinks.”

        Wow, you really believe that, don’t you?

        “(a) Gilad–or for that matter anybody else– can, by criticizing Israel, “destroy the Palestinian movement”?!”

        But Gilad does not leave it at that. He criticizes Jews for being Jewish, and that’s not a good thing objectively.

        “What I think Gilad has done that really scares the hell out of you is that he has held a mirror to Jews –Israelis and worldwide–and simply invited them to try some introspection. Others have done it also (e.g. Paul, to cite just one other) and if the number grows and grows you are up the proverbial non-kosher creek without a hasbara paddle.”

        I think, rather, that Gilad and Paul have confirmed what you already believed about Jews.

        • Atzmon was politically unknown before the zio-lefties got their knickers in a twist over Eisen’s pamphlet. I also find ‘holocaust denial’ literature rather unimpressive, but defend its distribution on the grounds of freedom of speech. Nothing exposes zios in lefty clothing better than doing that. Saying you don’t agree with holocaust revisionists is considered worse than agreeing with them! If you agree with them, well you’re beyond the pale, and can be hated and harassed in good faith. But if you treat it like any other theory – it cannot be dismissed a priori – what can they do? Accuse you of ‘facilitating’ H denial, or ‘anti-Jewish organising’, or ‘softcore negationism’ (actual quotes).

        • “He criticizes Jews for being Jewish.” WOW!
          I’ll write again what you said:

          “He criticizes Jews for being Jewish.”

          Taking the term “anti-semitic” to mean “anti-Jewish,” yours is the most profoundly anti-semitic statement I have ever read from any of his critics.
          Some of his critics say that his writings are dangerous and wrong because they “give quarter” to the widespread and eternal anti-semitism out there.
          But none of them has ever said or implied, as you do –that I know of– that what Gilad criticizes in the Jewish identity/mentality/behavior is in fact essentially, inherently, implacably and therefore unalterably J E W I SH.
          No wonder Paul’s alarm cries fall on tin ears.

          • “You’re vile.”
            Are you teasing me? After you called Fool me once “vile” your lot decided to stop posting to him. I have already said I am envious of his preferential status.
            Does it mean anything? Can I hope now or is it the usual zionist lie?

          • You beat me to it. I’d noticed his repetition also. Maybe it’s a prelude to an excommunication from the Dr Mathis Masterdebater Club, where he alone is the only bona fide member.
            or
            Maybe he’s having delusions of grandeur grammar issues again and he really means “You’re ‘vile” as in “You’re servile”

  13. u dont have to go back decades to find Israeli false flags. The foreign policy establishment revealed two very recent and perhaps on going Israeli false flag ops. In one case they posed as american cia , in others they act indirectly, as perhaps in toulouse, funding and directing ops that appear Islamic. Recall they use an Iranian Islamic terror group to kill civilians inside Iran, and they direct and fund Kurdish rebels inside Iraq and Turkey.

    Since every domestic terror op inside the United States has been directed by an FBI funded informant, it is statistically almost impossible to suspect this tOULOUSE ATTACK AS HOME GROWN.

    The patsy was shot in the head , we dont know. But highly unlikely a volunteer for the french army, disco going, Israeli tourist, became “radicalized” to insantity, killing children , forbidden in Islamic shariah of war. Plus the eyewitnesses said it was a fat white guy, not a 20 something french guido who liked cars and women.
    _____________________________
    Foreign Policy magazine

    EXCLUSIVE PRINT | TEXT SIZE | EMAIL | SINGLE PAGE
    False Flag
    A series of CIA memos describes how Israeli Mossad agents posed as American spies to recruit members of the terrorist organization Jundallah to fight their covert war against

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/01/13/false_flag

    • You’ve provided one example, which hardly establishes a pattern or even a trend.

      Further, you write “Since every domestic terror op inside the United States has been directed by an FBI funded informant.” And that, my friend, is called “begging the question.”

      • Of course, find a nation that hasn’t used false flag operations. But some things are only worth condemning when Jews do it. And when Jews do it, some case from 1940 is sufficient to see The Hand of The Jew behind every damn thing in the damn world – if that’s how you’re wired. And it’s pretty obvious that that is how many of the posters here are wired.

    • If in fact it Israel is using proxies to damage the Iranian nuclear program it is because Israel wants to damage that nuclear program. It is not as if Israel was trying to present a false picture as if it was those proxies behind the action in order to trigger a chain of events that would work in its favour.

  14. ariadna
    You are repeating the regular low slogans, of a person who is completely blocked in his head, read your type of thinking in comments all over and their intellect are poor and automaticly been written with out any basic thinking.
    What makes you think what my views are, since I do not accept your Atzmon a like writings…..you are the example of an brainwashed dogmatic mind.
    I am completely open minded I don’t accept anyone views and brings up assumptions and not slogans (They need a Justice…. ha ha what a smart and new empty argument) as you are the only one who wants Justice for the Palestinians.
    Gilad is not scaring anyone at all, he is just another figure that all kind of people with a blocked mind as you can adjust to,and ONLY because of his PR, which among a very narrow number of people (and since you are against PR), that’s the only thing he ever achieved.
    There is nothing more he contributed ONLY PR, that just splits the Palestinian movement, that’s his only achievement and nothing more..
    I don’t have any issue with him at all, I just examine him in a realistic way and not blinded as you are, only that he has no impact (see how many people are attending his PR meetings 20-30 people), if that’s an achievment for you.
    so I am getting to my basic issue I brought up and no one has any answer regarding the assumption that he can be a mosad agent.

    • Eldon me old chum, I’ll take up your challenge to go on a “zio hunt”. You bring the fake evidence and I’ll get me pitchfork. But before indulging your “open mindedness to anything real or unreal, including imagined and yet to be imagined” state of mind, I’d like you to consider the following reason, and this reason alone, as to why no one has answered your mind blowing “assumption”.
      The reason is simple, possibly too simple for you to comprehend, but anyway here goes. Are you ready?
      It’s because the total of 238 words in your post can be summed up in a single word, and that word is …..
      CREEPY!

  17. fool me once – Your predicted Zero answer, just makes my assumption stronger, as not only that you don’t have an answer (as Solar mentioned “all her food has been pre-chewed”) as no one has pre-chewed it for you before….. your brain is not trained to think outside the fool …… mindset.
    and I thought that this blog will be any different…… The writer of the article blows up a fart and you just chew it as it is……. if that’s your level of open minded….. you deserve it.

    • “Your predicted Zero answer, just makes my assumption stronger,..” that you asked a Zero question?
      Here’s a tip for ya. If you’re not too familiar with English grammar, I’d advise you to stay clear of using it to insult people, as you’ll just make a tit of yourself. Write your aspersions in your own language and we’ll translate them, so that we can feel the full force of the intended insult, honest. ;)

  18. When activist Vittorio Arrigoni was murdered in Gaza, Atzmon immediately fart was, it was done by Palestinians and pointed the finger toward Israel.
    When Juliano Mer an Israeli-Palestinian peace activist was murdered in Jenin Atzmon had another fart, the IDF trains special units that are operating disguised as Palestinians.
    After the massacre in Norway Atzmon fart about the murderer being a “Sabbath Goy” giving all sort of reasoning why it was done by Israel.
    When All the Israeli family was murdered in Itamar, Atzmon fart was that it was done by workers from THAILAND and not Palestinians.

    See how much rubbish this guy chews you up…… all faked bull, while there is NO one argument, for why don’t you think Atzmon is an Mosad agent.

    • It’s unfortunate that Eldon lies, exaggerates, can’t spell, and uses incorrect grammar and juvenile language, for he has a point. There IS a tendency to look for evidence which confirms one’s view of the world, and most people do it, not just Gilad Atzmon. When there’s a terrorist attack, right-wing people assume it’s Muslims, and the left say it’s neo-Nazis. After the truth comes out, neither side learns, they just wait for the next chance to jump to conclusions.

  19. Eldon, I think Gilad Atzmon is also a prima ballerina in Bolshoy Theatre in Russia. And, and if you look at his ears at a certain light, they turn slighlty green and they shine, ( sorry Mr Atzmon):). Which PROOFS that HE is an UFO ..agent.
    Happy now??
    You see ,Eldon, you have NO courage to do what Gilad Atzmon did/does. That’s ok ,not everybody has.
    You have NO wisdom/talents that Gilad Atzmon has.
    That’s ok, not everybody has.
    But why instead of supporting an honest, good willed people like Gilad, who have the guts, the wits, the knowledge and insights to bring a very interesting facts/truths to a daily light for everbody to ponder, why then instead of supporting people like Gilad you major task/job is trying to villify him, put him down in the eyes of others, throw some false , unfounded accusations at him???
    What are you trying th achieve?? What is your purpouse???
    He is on the side of all good, honest, decent people, if you are agianst it/him that on what side you are on????????

  20. Searching

    I am sure you are one of those Hari Krishna people.
    Blinded as all those fools.
    If you want to establish your new “Guru Atzmon” cult , as you are one of those who need a Guru and are “SEARCHING” for one, that’s you problem.
    Your attempts to show that your Guru Atzmon, is been attacked is your personal Paranoia, as your Guru cannot be challenged.
    Give me a break and get back to you Atzmon Ashram and say your replicas, of how great he is.

      • It was clear to me that Gilad Atzmon wasn’t worth the paper he wrote on when he spread around your indefensible ‘Holocaust Wars’ Holocaust denial propaganda – the incident that began his humiliating crawl toward the margins of irrelevance.

        • “the incident that began his humiliating crawl toward the margins of irrelevance”

          but when you wake up from this dream and discover it hasn’t happened, it isn’t happening, you bawl your head off and jump on your computer to snipe, bite, snarl and spit again…. tough life you have.

    • Listen my friendo, although you probably won’t comprendo from it anyway.
      I do not make any “gurus “of the people.
      No need for that.
      I have “a guru” out of this world, and try to answer to Him. You won’t understand it either, so I’ll stop here.
      I do not folow any cults ,while you seem to do.
      You can’t understand that somebody may respect another human being just for his courage, heart, wisdom,humor etc.
      I think your school never thought you that.
      You were thought to spy, to manipulate, to lie, to label, put down, slander,degrade, destroy.
      You can not understand that there are people who are different, who try to act differently ,and who have the courage to reveal malicious intentions of those who do have malicious intentions.
      You need to open your eyes and get rid of your spiritual-intelectual-emotional blindness, my friendo.
      You gurus lead you straight into a swamp.

  22. Its not the Ideas, its the news he farts around and then looks like a stupid fool.
    Before you jump in Mr. Eisen, read the comment regarding his fart news he spread around.
    Who wrote something about his ideas????
    Which of the News he spread around Do you agree with Mr. Smart guy ????? About the activist Vittorio Arrigoni who was murdered in Gaza, that Atzmon rushed to say it was the Israelis ?????

    Your Tactics are pathetic ????

  23. Searching you just wrote

    “Start pointing guns in one direction.
    We have a very powerful enemy to deal with.
    It is no joke ,but a very sad ,frightening reality.”

    Wow and I thought you are Mother tereza, that only writes about “respect another human being , wisdom,humor etc.”

    You are just another low Hypocrite, so stay in your Atzmon Ashram and point out your guns…..,

      • I don’t believe in this cr*p spread about Mother Theresa ,especially in a versions a la late Chris Hitchens.
        There are many lies, manipulations that are flying all over the internet about this poor woman. If anybody did 1/1000 of the efforts to help poor of this Eearth ,as she did,
        then let them point their finger. I won’t
        The biggest judges are usually the ones who did nothing or very little.
        The Catholic Church, unfortunately, strayed from its way a big time ,starting with a II Vatican Council. But that is a very different, very complex ,also very interesting issue ,which alredy had divided many catholic, all over the world, in many groups. And those divisions will deepen.

        • An old Jewish joke has a rabbi trying to arbitrate a quarrel between two guys. He listens to the first guy and says “You’re right.”
          The second guy protests: “How can you say he’s right, Rabbi, when he did so and so?” The Rabbi says “you’re right too.” A third guy who was nearby says: “Sorry, Rabbi but I could help overhearing. I cannot possibly believe that both guys can be right.” The Rabbi thinks about it and says: “You’re right too.”
          Mother Theresa may have been maligned by the Catholic Church and Hitchens. Or she may have been the kind of zealot who did not in fact do much at all to help the poor because she believed that life on earth is meant to be and SHOULD be about suffering and chose instead to spend the millions she received on proselytizing.
          Either way this is quite far off the scope of these discussions.

        • Ooops, I thought when I read your post, but then laughed. You nearly had me going, but then I realised you were being “ariadnaesque”. At least I hope you were!?!
          Never mind the schism of Vatican 2, the Catholic Church has for centuries, been a patriarchal, sexist, corrupt, oppressive institution.
          The prolific child abuse alone is testament to it’s complete opposition to Christ’s teachings. The systematic cover up of 10,000s of raped children by it’s clergy, is indefensible. Unless of course one were to be a pedophile apologist. As you probably know, the current Pope is a key player in those cover-ups.
          Watch the video I posted on MT. Her initials alone, speak volumes of her sincerity.

          • Hard to have favorites when it comes to the Catholic Church but for me its collaboration –because it amounted to that– with the juntas in South America in the annihilation of liberation theology priests who sided with the starving poor ranks among the most reprehensible.

            I still think– I meant it in my previous post– that Mother Theresa and the Catholic Church are not for this site.

            This instead is the kind of thing that merits attention:

            http://www.countercurrents.org/corseri240312.htm

            Why, oh, why? More and more and more such voices, to give sleepless nights to the PhDs. Haven’t they suffered enough?

          • Ariadna, my comment was for @searching, but I take your point, this thread ain’t about the catholic church bullshit.

    • Life IS a Fight dear,deluded, internally blinded Eldon.
      It is a constant fight between Good and Evil, between our wants/desires/obsessions to go an easy way, and our duties/obligations to go against the grain.
      That’s why we have to be ready to conquer the evil/weeknesses that devour each of us on daily bases, and the evil that wants to devour most of us collectively.
      I know for you all of it sounds like Chinese mixed with Amazonian dialect, but I am telling a simple truth, nothing less, nothing more.

  24. Which brings me to the main topic, that all of you try to escape from bringing up your pre chewed nonsense.
    which is the fart idiotic news Atzmon spreads around (as many times in the past that made him look like a fool)and you chew it as usual and the assumption that Atzmon is a Mosad Agent !!!???

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