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	<title>Comments on: Grace Halsell: courageous truthseeker and de-bunker of Christian Zionist doctrine</title>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately though they are a fringe lunatic group they are very fundamentalist and vocal so get a great deal of coverage from the media giving real Christians a bad name in the process. They shouldn&#039;t be allowed to call themselves Christian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately though they are a fringe lunatic group they are very fundamentalist and vocal so get a great deal of coverage from the media giving real Christians a bad name in the process. They shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to call themselves Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen Fleming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen Fleming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I began reporting from both sides of The Wall in Israel Palestine in 2005.

In 1947, 20% of the total population of the so called Holy Land was Christian. 

Today, it is less than 1.3% and is shrinking fast due to low birth rates coupled with fleeing from the Occupation which denies Palestinians access to their land, families, holy sites.



Tikkun is Hebrew for mend, repair and transform the world.

Tikkun is also an organization that researched to discover that there are three distinct elements energizing the Christian Zionists:

1. A strong commitment to conservative and ultra-nationalist American politics (so strong, I believe, that if the U.S. were to decide to break with Israel, this part of the Christian Zionist leadership would go along with that and drop its defense of Israeli policies).

2. Dispensationalist religious commitments that lead many of the Christian Zionists to yearn for a cataclysmic “end of history” eschatological war in the Middle East that will precipitate the second coming of Jesus and the Rapture in which all true Christians will go to heaven and all Jews who have not yet converted to Christianity will burn in hell for eternity.

3. A widespread understanding among many Christians that atonement and repentance is needed for 1700 years of murder, rape, and oppression of Jews that was frequently generated by the Church (though, of course, the Evangelicals do not recognize that church as their church). In this category are many Christian Zionists who genuinely feel terrible about what has happened to the Jews and genuinely want to help the Jewish people. Their philo-Semitism is real and sincere. [Rabbi Lerner, Tikkun Magazine page 9, Nov/Dec. 2007]


Regarding Israel&#039;s Military Occupation of Palestine, Jonathan Ben Artzi, a nephew of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who spent eighteen months in jail for refusing to serve in the IDF said:

&quot;Sometimes it takes a good friend to tell you when enough is enough. As they did with South Africa two decades ago, concerned citizens across the US can make a difference by encouraging Washington to get the message to Israel that this cannot continue. If Americans truly are our friends, they should shake us up and take away the keys, because right now we are driving drunk, and without this wake-up call, we will soon find ourselves in the ditch of an undemocratic, doomed state.&quot;

I am Eileen Fleming for US HOUSE and I approve of all of my messages.
http://wearewideawake.org]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I began reporting from both sides of The Wall in Israel Palestine in 2005.</p>
<p>In 1947, 20% of the total population of the so called Holy Land was Christian. </p>
<p>Today, it is less than 1.3% and is shrinking fast due to low birth rates coupled with fleeing from the Occupation which denies Palestinians access to their land, families, holy sites.</p>
<p>Tikkun is Hebrew for mend, repair and transform the world.</p>
<p>Tikkun is also an organization that researched to discover that there are three distinct elements energizing the Christian Zionists:</p>
<p>1. A strong commitment to conservative and ultra-nationalist American politics (so strong, I believe, that if the U.S. were to decide to break with Israel, this part of the Christian Zionist leadership would go along with that and drop its defense of Israeli policies).</p>
<p>2. Dispensationalist religious commitments that lead many of the Christian Zionists to yearn for a cataclysmic “end of history” eschatological war in the Middle East that will precipitate the second coming of Jesus and the Rapture in which all true Christians will go to heaven and all Jews who have not yet converted to Christianity will burn in hell for eternity.</p>
<p>3. A widespread understanding among many Christians that atonement and repentance is needed for 1700 years of murder, rape, and oppression of Jews that was frequently generated by the Church (though, of course, the Evangelicals do not recognize that church as their church). In this category are many Christian Zionists who genuinely feel terrible about what has happened to the Jews and genuinely want to help the Jewish people. Their philo-Semitism is real and sincere. [Rabbi Lerner, Tikkun Magazine page 9, Nov/Dec. 2007]</p>
<p>Regarding Israel&#8217;s Military Occupation of Palestine, Jonathan Ben Artzi, a nephew of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who spent eighteen months in jail for refusing to serve in the IDF said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Sometimes it takes a good friend to tell you when enough is enough. As they did with South Africa two decades ago, concerned citizens across the US can make a difference by encouraging Washington to get the message to Israel that this cannot continue. If Americans truly are our friends, they should shake us up and take away the keys, because right now we are driving drunk, and without this wake-up call, we will soon find ourselves in the ditch of an undemocratic, doomed state.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am Eileen Fleming for US HOUSE and I approve of all of my messages.<br />
<a href="http://wearewideawake.org" rel="nofollow">http://wearewideawake.org</a></p>
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