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Twelve Jews paying rapt attention to a "half Italian" Methodist: Janet Napolitano speaks with staff at The Forward

Fascism and Philo-Semitism: A Look at the Department of Homeland Security

Do fascism and philo-Semitism go hand-in-hand? It is an interesting question, and one could point to plenty of evidence in support of the affirmative side of the question. Take for instance Janet Napolitano. According to Wikipedia, the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security is a Methodist, and is also “of half Italian ancestry.” The article doesn’t specify what the other half is, but does give us the following:

Janet Napolitano was born on November 29, 1957, in New York City, the daughter of Jane Marie (née Winer) and Leonard Michael Napolitano, who was the dean of the University of New Mexico School of Medicine.[3] She is of half Italian ancestry[3][4] and is a Methodist.[5] She was the eldest of three children; she has a younger brother and sister.

Some have speculated (here for example) that Napolitano’s mother was Jewish, but regardless of her origins or any religious beliefs she may or may not hold, Napolitano seems to have a deep love for Jewish people and holds their concerns rather dear to her heart. She has even diverted considerable resources from her departmental budget to ensuring their welfare and security. Of special interest is a DHS initiative called the Nonprofit Security Grant Program—designed to provide “target hardening” and “security enhancements” to American nonprofit organizations that are deemed “at high risk of a terrorist attack.”

Ironically, perhaps, it was a Jewish news organization, The Forward, that uncovered what appears to be striking preference given to Jewish organizations in doling out NSGP grant monies.

“The grants have been of tremendous value to this community. It is really unprecedented,” said Paul Goldenberg, national director of Secure Community Network, an umbrella organization devoted to addressing security needs of Jewish communities, an organization whose board of directors includes representatives from major Jewish organizations, including the American Jewish Committee and the ADL.

Goldenberg’s remarks were quoted in a Forward report published September 29, 2011 which found that a whopping 73.7 percent of NSGP grants between the years 2007-2010 went to Jewish organizations. Or to put it in round numbers, out of a total of 995 grants distributed, 734 went to Jewish groups. In August of 2011, just before the article came out, the DHS announced its grant recipients for the year 2011, and this time around Jewish nonprofits emerged even bigger winners—with 81 percent of the awards.

Acknowledging that the grant awards amount to “disproportionate distribution,” The Forward gives us a small sampling of what the money was used for:

The Akiba-Schechter Jewish Day School, in Chicago, put in new lights around its building and parking lot and now has a state-of-the-art video surveillance system with 12 cameras. Congregation Brith Shalom, in Bellaire, Texas, now has blast-proof doors and windows. In Baltimore, the Bais Hamedrash & Mesivta school installed a new gate to the parking lot and placed cameras throughout the building. Earlier this month, Congregation B’nai Israel of Staten Island put new shatterproof windows into its 40-year-old building.

State of the art surveillance systems, blast-proof windows, and gated parking lots—while increasing numbers of Americans find themselves living in the streets. It would suggest—would it not?—that postmodern America is now being run in the interest of one ethnic group, to the exclusion of all others. Goldenberg is correct. It is unprecedented.

If you think Napolitano might hold any grudges against The Forward for making this information about her grant program public, you’d be wrong. On June 4, 2012, the DHS secretary met with The Forward’s editorial staff and did a podcast interview that can be accessed here in which she affirmed her belief that Jews face special risks the rest of us don’t have to worry about.

“Unfortunately there are risks attendant on the Jewish community that are not attendant on all other communities,” she said. She did acknowledge she knows of no “specific, credible threat” against American Jews at present, but then she added:

But I would also say that this is a world where we always need to be leaning forward, and we need to be thinking proactively, not just reactively, and that applies particularly strongly to Jewish institutions.

And, as if to demonstrate her proactive thinking, Napolitano mentioned her department’s If You See Something, Say Something campaign—a DHS program that encourages Americans to report “suspicious activity” to their local authorities—and she took pains to note for The Forward staff that the program’s promotional materials have been translated into…yes…Yiddish.

Twelve Jews paying rapt attention to a “half Italian” Methodist: Janet Napolitano speaks with staff at The Forward

 

ISIS and Irises: Big Brother Approaching FAST

But what of non-Jewish Americans? What perchance does the Department of Homeland Security have in store for us? Hi-tech surveillance is one thing. DHS is presently testing a new video surveillance system called ISIS (Imaging System for Immersive Surveillance) that will give government authorities 360o crowd monitoring capabilities with instant, high-resolution video capture.

Eye in the Sky: ISIS cameras may be mounted on roofs, ceilings, or truck-mounted telescoping masts

The system employs “image stitching” technology, bringing together images from multiple video lenses, making it possible for Big Brother to zoom in on individual objects or faces in a crowd but without losing clarity in the remaining field of view. The controllers of ISIS will have at their fingertips a resolution capability of 100 megapixels, described as the equivalent of “50 full-HDTV movies playing at once, with optical detail to spare.” A software system called “video analytics” will provide additional surveillance capabilities, including the setting up of “exclusion zones”—with alerts being flashed the moment such zones are breached—while yet another app will make it possible for operators to:

pick…a target—a person, a package, or a pickup truck—and the detailed viewing window will tag it and follow it, automatically panning and tilting as needed. Video analytics at high resolution across a 360-degree field of view, coupled with the ability to follow objects against a cluttered background, would provide enhanced situational awareness as an incident unfolds.

A second generation model of ISIS will feature custom sensors and video boards, longer range cameras, and higher resolutions, while future plans call for equipping it with infrared capabilities for recording events at night. “We’ve seen that terrorists are determined to do us harm, and ISIS is a great example of one way we can improve our security by leveraging our strengths,” says Dr. John Fortune, of the Infrastructure and Geophysical Division of DHS’s Science and Technology Directorate.

DHS is currently testing ISIS at airports but has plans for expanding it to “other critical venues.”

But ISIS only barely scratches the surface. DHS employs more than 240,000 people, and its budget for the year 2012 was $57 billion. With that much money and manpower, a government agency headed by a raving philo-Semite can go a long way toward trampling the remnant of privacy and freedoms in America.

Napolitano lays a wreath at the Holocaust Museum

In 2010, DHS began testing iris scanners, and the devices are now used in certain situations at some border point entries. 2010 of course was the same year the introduction of invasive pat downs and naked body scanners at airports began causing an uproar amongst the US public—but now the DHS is treading into areas that once might have been thought of purely as the domain of science fiction. Imagine having the ability to detect “malintent,” i.e. whether or not a person may perhaps intend to commit a crime or terrorist act at some point in the future. This is what DHS is working toward with its new Future Attribute Screening Technology, FAST. The matter has been discussed at the website End The Lie, where writer Madison Ruppert describes it as follows:

This program collects and stores “physiological and behavioral signals” for analysis, which are then used to determine if an individual could possibly commit a crime in the future or if they harbor malicious intent.

Like the rest of the DHS programs, this requires no probable cause, let alone suspicion of criminal activity.

The data is collected secretly and according to documents obtained by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), includes, “video images, audio recordings, cardiovascular signals, pheromones, electrodermal activity, and respiratory measurements.”

CNET reports that, “blink rate and pupil variation are measured too”, according to an unnamed government source.

FAST reportedly will also measure changes in voice pitch, as well as eye movements, including pupil dilation and blink rate, and changes in speech rhythm and intonation.

Disclose.tvFuture Attribute Screening Technology, or FAST

Worth noting is a scientist quoted by Ruppert who expresses doubt the technology can actually work. Yet the technological advances the general public knows about are usually ten or twenty years behind those the government works on in secret. Moreover, it’s not hard to imagine a future in which FAST, or technology like it, could be combined with civilian drones, some of which are no larger than insects, as well as a future in which “malintent” could be defined as something as facile as planning to attend an Occupy Wall Street protest or harboring the belief that Israel commits war crimes. Such possibilities tell of a future in which vast populations are controlled by a small number of people… and they also form the making of a totalitarian state such as has never before existed.

Napolitano with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak

And should worse come to worse, DHS is fully prepared to use deadly force. Earlier this year, the department contracted for delivery of 450 million hollow point bullets for .40 caliber weapons. More recent disclosures show it soliciting contracts for “personal defense weapons”—designed for maximum concealment and close-quarters combat—that will be capable of both automatic and semi-automatic fire and will come equipped with flash suppressors and/or muzzle brakes. Requested are a total of 7,000 such weapons, which in turn are to be field tested with at least 4,000 rounds of ammunition each, and if the guns pass the field tests, presumably additional contracts will be awarded.

 

From Israel to the ADL:
Travels with Janet

In 2011, the NSGP grant initiative was funded to the tune of $19 million. The following year things changed a bit. The budget was cut to $10 million and the guidelines were adjusted in such a manner that would, at least in theory, reduce the built-in favoritism enjoyed by Jewish organizations. Previously in the guidelines, preference was accorded to “nonprofit organizations with religious affiliation,” giving Jewish groups a rather significant advantage over other nonprofit organizations. This, as well as a change in the definition of “terror threat,” perhaps resulted in some leveling of the playing field, however, as The Forward noted, “Even with the new guidelines, Jewish activists contend that the program will still provide funding for the community’s security needs because of the increase in threats against Jewish institutions mainly from groups close to Iran.”

Moreover, it seems Napolitano is just as steadfast in her devotion to Jewish interests as ever, indicating in her June 4 interview with The Forward that she was quite unperturbed over the fact that the lion’s share of the NSGP grant money had been awarded to nonprofits serving those interests.

“The fact that it ends up going to many Jewish organizations doesn’t in itself bother me,” she said. She also informed her interlocutors she had seen no indications the money had been misspent, and that she felt the program has been a success.

With Shimon Peres

Like most powerful Washington officials, Janet Napolitano is ever eager to meet with Israeli leaders and spend time in the Jewish state. During her tenure as Homeland Security director, Napolitano has made at least two trips to Israel—in January of 2011, and again in May of this year. In her most recent visit she signed an agreement with Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman expanding the Global Entry program to include Israel. Under that program, travelers from a small number of select countries are given expedited passage through US Customs ports upon their arrival in the US. In the past, a reciprocity condition was placed upon countries seeking to join the program, however, in the case of Israel that requirement was waived.

With Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman

While in Israel, Napolitano also met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, issuing the standard and by now rather hackneyed line about “unshakeable bonds” between the two countries—a talking point that seems to be especially in fashion with the Obama administration this election year.

“The United States remains steadfastly committed to Israel’s security. The bonds between our two nations are unshakeable, lasting and critical to both our peoples,” she said.

In a video, here, former Jew, Brother Nathanael Kapner, alleges that the actual power behind DHS is not Janet Napolitano herself, and that the real license remains in the hands of former DHS director Michael Chertoff, along with Joseph Lieberman, who heads the US Senate’s Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. To this there may be some truth. Wikipedia’s article on Napolitano records several verbal gaffes and inconsistencies that would not seem indicative of a strong leader. But be that as it may, Napolitano seems to have earned her stripes as far as the ADL is concerned. On April 29th this year the Jewish organization awarded her its William and Naomi Gorowitz Institute Service Award. Previous recipients of the award—designed to recognize “outstanding achievements in combatting terrorism, extremism, and injustice”—include Chertoff and former CIA Director George Tenet. In her acceptance speech, Napolitano stated that the ADL has “helped to train senior leaders at DHS” as well as “thousands of law enforcement officers in communities around the country,” and she vowed to continue her patronage of Jewish organizations:

And all of our work to collaborate with the public and non-profits is clear in DHS’ relationship with the American Jewish community.

It’s a partnership that didn’t necessarily begin with this Administration, but I’m proud that we have built upon and expanded it under President Obama’s leadership.

We have depended on this partnership recently as we’ve witnessed a number of high profile domestic and international events that have directly impacted the Jewish community, both here and abroad.

It’s also a partnership we have leveraged to make communities across the country better prepared to deal with threats that may originate within this country or abroad…

I met with Jewish community leaders at the White House last week, and we’ve stayed in close contact over the past several months to address the issues I just mentioned.

And we are working closely with the FBI to hold coordinated outreach and briefings to the Jewish community; and to identify potential targets and address any vulnerabilities.

She also gushed about the “particularly strong partnership with our friend and steadfast ally Israel,” and talked of how she has increased cooperation with the Jewish state to “unprecedented levels.” A video of the speech is available here and includes opening remarks by ADL Director Abe Foxman, who praises the “paramount concern” Napolitano and DHS have shown for “the issues at the heart of ADL’s agenda.” Moreover, this wasn’t the first award bestowed upon its great friend by the cuddly Jewish organization. Foxman informs us that in 1998 Napolitano, while serving as Arizona Attorney General, was recognized as the ADL’s “Leader of Distinction”, and in 2007, as governor of the state, she was given the ADL’s “Torch of Liberty” award.

With Israeli Army Reserve Chaplain Jacob Goldstein

And maybe one day they’ll hand her even yet another, for Napolitano does very much seem to stay busy on behalf of Jews as she attends to her daily duties. As recently as June 11, just one week after her meeting with The Forward’s staff, she met with community leaders of the Jewish Federations of North America, vowing—much as she did in her April speech at the ADL—to continue her indulgences of Jewish organizations.

“Homeland security begins with hometown security, and our nation’s faith-based organizations play a critical role in keeping our communities safe,” she said, apparently disregarding the prior removal of the words “nonprofit organizations with religious affiliation” from the NSGP guidelines. “DHS works closely with communities all across the country so they are better prepared to deal with threats that may originate within this country or abroad.”

Where Does it End?

It’s very much worth noting that these symptoms of philo-Semitism exhibited by Napolitano are not limited to her alone, but can be found throughout much of the Obama administration—from the endless pandering to Israel by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, to the Justice Department’s arrests and subpoenas of pro-Palestinian activists. And if we go to Whitehouse.gov we can even find a special website section entitled Blog Posts Related to the American Jewish Community.

All of this would suggest that America is becoming more Jewish by the day, by the hour even, and the more Jewish it becomes, the more fascist it becomes. If fascism and philo-Semitism go hand-in-hand, does that lead us to conclude that most Jews are by nature fascist? One thing I’ve observed over the course of a lifetime is that Jews change their colors like a chameleon. When I was a kid growing up in the sixties, Jews played key roles in both the civil rights and anti-war movements. But then as Jewish power in America expanded and solidified, Jews, practically en masse, crossed from the left to the right side of the political divide. Like a chameleon, the colors changed. Such questions as war or racism, and whether these are evils that must be opposed, are of hardly any matter. They are trivial considerations. For chameleons the key question is and will always be, “Is it good for the chameleons?”. This simply is how the reptilian mind operates. The fact that the reptilian mindset has taken over the chain of command in the USA should not surprise us.

Does Napolitano care about the security concerns of all Americans, or only Jews? Is she the Homeland Security director of America or Israel? Is she concerned that America’s wars and atrocities in one Muslim country after another, whatever these may do to advance the interests of the Jewish state, pose a security threat to every single person in the US? These are questions that all Americans, even the Shabbes Goyim among us, would do well to consider before the technology to control us advances any further.

 

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Update 1:
Since I finished writing the above story, the recipients of NSGP grants for 2012 were announced. Recall that above I mentioned that NSGP funding had been cut this year—from $19 million down to $10 million. So what to do when a program like this undergoes a budget cut? The answer DHS seems to have come up with is to give an even higher percentage of the money to Jewish organizations. In a July 2 story, Haaretz reports that this year 97 percent of the grant monies, or $9.7 million, will be awarded to Jewish organizations. “The Department of Homeland Security has demonstrated a great commitment to protecting at-risk communities,” said Kathy Manning, chair of the Board of Trustees of The Jewish Federations of North America. “These effective security grants are vital to the ongoing protection of deserving institutions, enabling us to work, worship, gather and learn without fear.”

Update 2:
The mainstream media do not seem to be covering this story (not surprising), but here is more at the JTA.

Update 3:
If it is true that the Jewish community in America faces so many alleged threats, then perhaps the Obama administration would care to address the question of why this is. Does President Obama dismiss all this as mere “irrational anti-Semitism”?

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67 Responses to Fascism and Philo-Semitism: A Look at the Department of Homeland Security

  1. who_me July 4, 2012 at 1:07 am #

    the extent that jp has been infiltrated into all aspects of the west is mind boggling. nice job exposing this.

    it’s like orwell’s 1984 where the upper level of control rests with jp, and everybody else is duped prey.

  2. who_me July 4, 2012 at 1:14 am #

    jp and fascism go hand in hand. fascism puts power in the hands of a very few, who in turn, think they are specially endowed to weild that power. because so few have the power over the rest, they need the society militarised in an extreme heirarchical fashion where everybody has a set place and a set level of “worth”. the “few specially endowed leaders” need this, and they need it wired into people’s brains, so these extremely cowardly few wont face challenge. a challenge which they would surely lose in a society of equals.

    • Jonathon Blakeley July 5, 2012 at 12:13 am #

      great analysis, pretty much got it nailed, I would add of course Synarchy the government through secret societies that maintain the ruling elite _ Knights Templar, Freemasons, Scientologists, Knights of Malta….

      • who_me July 5, 2012 at 2:10 am #

        Jonathon Blakeley

        thanks

        “I would add of course Synarchy the government through secret societies that maintain the ruling elite _ Knights Templar, Freemasons, Scientologists, Knights of Malta….”

        i don’t know much about these or how they work.

  3. who_me July 4, 2012 at 1:50 am #

    a bit of good news, antiwar.com has highlighted this jewish favourtism at the [j]dhs by linking to this haaretz article doing a bit of jewish bragging:

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/u-s-homeland-security-allocates-9-7-million-to-jewish-nonprofits-1.448122

    • bilal July 14, 2012 at 1:36 am #

      I wonder if Gilad Atzmon has ever written on the zionist military training camps in Nazi germany. There is an unbelievable map of these camps in germany, 1936, here, which I find astounding that such origins are hidden from public view. certainly explains the link between homeland security fascism and philo semitism.

      http://www.codoh.com/library/document/1676#ftn7

  4. who_me July 4, 2012 at 2:02 am #

    “In a video, here, former Jew, Brother Nathanael Kapner, alleges that the actual power behind DHS is not Janet Napolitano herself, and that the real license remains in the hands of former DHS director Michael Chertoff, along with Joseph Lieberman, who heads the US Senate’s Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. To this there may be some truth. Wikipedia’s article on Napolitano records several verbal gaffes and inconsistencies that would not seem indicative of a strong leader.”

    jp doesn’t want strong, intelligent leadership among its pet colonials, goy or jew or covert jew. they want “yes men” who will impliment prepared policy as instructed, and provide a marketable face in the media propaganda. as with aipac, et al, providing congress with the material they are to use, the various departments also get their marching order to follow. these people don’t create the policies, these are determined in tel aviv, ny and london mostly, and at the various rightwing think tanks (who are just about all beholding to the zionazi heirarchy), department heads’ jobs is to impliment these policies and their job performance rating is determined how well they do this (after their absolute loyalty is confirmed, of course). very average people make the best gofers.

  5. pgg804 July 4, 2012 at 2:21 am #

    Very good article. Here is a related article by Patrick Buchanan. A life-long republican, Buchanan writes how the party was turned into an Israel-First party.

    http://buchanan.org/blog/how-bill-kristol-purged-the-arabists-5085

    I wanted to make sure I was using the phrase Israel-First properly and then I came across this article.

    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-02-27/news/31105900_1_aipac-mj-rosenberg-loyalty

    I’m thinking Dershowitz would also object to Israel uber Alles.

  6. who_me July 4, 2012 at 2:27 am #

    “A life-long republican, Buchanan writes how the party was turned into an Israel-First party.”

    you know that buchanon endorsed bush in 2000 and 2004? i heard him on one of those hate radio programs (the hannity queen or the viagra reliant fat guy, i don’t remember which) endorse the bush presidency in 2005 or 6. a real antizionazi rebel, that guy. :D

    • who_me July 4, 2012 at 2:30 am #

      point being, buchanon endorsed these zionazis when their killing was at an all time high, now he says he doesn’t. he’s an opportunist.

  7. pgg804 July 4, 2012 at 2:54 am #

    I don’t doubt you’re correct on the endorsements you said he made. But I wouldn’t call him an opportunist. In my mind an opportunist is someone that does whatever is best to bolster his chances at advancement within an organization or society. I view an opportunist as someone who would rarely if ever say something controversial, always going with the herd. Buchanan has been his own man and always willing to take the heat for what he believes. He has written some very controversial books.

    Buchanan’s positions, speeches and books have ensured he would not advance beyond a certain point and have made him a target for many people calling him a racist, anti-semite, etc.

    • pgg804 July 4, 2012 at 3:02 am #

      I think Buchanan had hopes of going much farther in the party (he ran for president several times, most notably in 1992). I think if you hope to advance in a political party, you’re expected to endorse its presidential candidate. He has been very critical of Bush and was fired from his job on MSNBC within the last year for the last book he wrote.

      • pgg804 July 4, 2012 at 3:30 am #

        I wanted to ad this link. Supreme court justice Elena Kagan goes to Israel and praises its system of justice (ignoring its practice of torture and murder of innocents).

        http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/e-tu-elena-justice-kagans-in-israel-celebrating-deep-commitment-to-the-rule-of-law.html

        I recall an article (I think by Buchanan) in which he discussed that the court had (or might have) three Jewish supreme court justices (saying the Jewish percentage of the population is 2%, but much higher on the supreme court). He was naturally criticized from some quarters for discussing it and I found myself thinking should that be an issue. I’m sure most of us have heard of quotas that supposedly were enforced limiting the number of Jews who can enter a university or some other organization and instinctively that doesn’t sound fair. Shouldn’t the best candidate be selected for a particular job or position (lets ignore the issue of minorites that haven’t advanced for this arguement)?

        But when I see a supreme court justice, who is supposed to represent everything that is right and fair visit Israel I have my doubts the best candidate is always selected. Actually I had my doubts before that article. Every head of the Federal Reserve has been Jewish since 1970 except for perhaps one who served 1.5 years in the late 1970’s.

        Federal Reserve Heads

        Arthur F. Burns
        (February 1, 1970 – January 31, 1978)
        G. William Miller
        (March 8, 1978 – August 6, 1979)
        Paul A. Volcker
        (August 6, 1979 – August 11, 1987)
        Alan Greenspan²
        (August 11, 1987 – January 31, 2006)
        Ben S. Bernanke
        (February 1, 2006 – )

        Have these really always been the best candidates or is there favoritism towards Jews?

        • who_me July 4, 2012 at 3:45 am #

          “Have these really always been the best candidates or is there favoritism towards Jews?”

          jewish people run the usa. of course jewish people get favourtism. they are more reliable. :)

          opting for fascists isn’t going to change things. jp and fascism are one and the same. when cheering some fascist, stop and think. that fascist is working with jp right now. they have the same goals. is going with one one percenter better than going with the other?

          it’s your arse getting reamed, and both the zionazi and the “nice rightwing capitalist” are having great laugh over it. the difference between the two is the amount of foreskin.

  8. who_me July 4, 2012 at 3:25 am #

    pgg804

    jp makes use of stooges from the right, centre and left. buchanon is one of their righties. like with the greenstainers on the “left” buchanon knows how to phrase his stuff to meet approval. but what he says doesn’t match what he does, just like the rest of them. he is playing the crowd like any empire snake oil salesman. he gets his fame, and his mansion. we get to pay the taxes he avoids and watch jp do in our name what even the most disgusting subhuman would deplore.

    • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 4, 2012 at 4:01 am #

      I don’t see the Buchannan the same way. He is an old-school right-wing Republican but he has been very vocal in criticizing the zionist agenda.
      He is the one who famously said publicly to almost audible gasps: “the US Congress is occupied territory.”
      He also alluded not so subtly that the officially set immigration quotas that substantially favored non-whites (with the exception of the “saved Soviet jews) could not be more problematic in terms of sudden influxes that provoke hostility on economic grounds if they were designed on purpose to do so. He was immediately attacked by the jewish left as a white racist.
      He has criticized the US foreign policy serving not the US but Israel’s interests more than any other an ex-politician and, as pgg804 remarked, spoke openly about the Supreme Court being 30% jewish and criticizing Bush for his foreign policy, again for his Israel-tied foreign policy, for which he lost his job on MSNBC

      • who_me July 4, 2012 at 4:14 am #

        Ariadna Theokopoulos

        but why did buchanan support bush in 2005-6 on zionazi hate radio? it might have been 2004, but same thing. i heard him do it. he said bush was doing fine. he’s the republican’s “bad boy”, like kucinch is the democrat’s “bad boy”. it’s a marketing game.

        words, actions. if they don’t match. it’s bs.

        • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 4, 2012 at 4:22 am #

          I don’t know. Perhaps he was mistaken–see example below. he is not, howvere, the opportunist you see him as being or else he would have kept his mouth shut isnetad of setting his hair on fire again and again.

          Example: An acquaintance of mine–anti-Israel, anti-zionist and formerly a democrat– told me he was glad he had voted for Bush–first term–because Bush had only one cabinet member who was jewish: his Press Sec’y, Ari Fleischman.
          The guy said he was tired of the Clintons admin which was jews wall to wall.

          • who_me July 4, 2012 at 4:46 am #

            “he is not, howvere, the opportunist you see him as being or else he would have kept his mouth shut”

            maybe he thinks of himself as another zbig? a couple of gays tuned into antiwar.com might also, but he’s just a choir boi. his handlers let him go at it. he cant hurt them any more than ronald the clown can. :D

            “Example: An acquaintance of mine–anti-Israel, anti-zionist and formerly a democrat– told me he was glad he had voted for Bush–first term–because Bush had only one cabinet member who was jewish: his Press Sec’y, Ari Fleischman.
            The guy said he was tired of the Clintons admin which was jews wall to wall.”

            only one jew in bushie jr’s hole? are you sure?

            http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/bushjews.html

            first hit on a simple search. was your friend in love with things circumcised? :D

          • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 5, 2012 at 2:34 am #

            only one jew in bushie jr’s hole? are you sure?
            http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/bushjews.html
            first hit on a simple search. was your friend in love with things circumcised?
            __________
            Do you know what the word “cabinet” means?
            It is not the diplomatic corps. There are no ambassadors in it.
            Or do you keep contradicting and sneering just to be obstinate?
            I think you should take your own advice and “hit on a simple search”–use the word “cabinet, which is what I was talking about.
            GW Bush first-term cabinet included: Powel, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Chavez (Linda), Norton (Gale), Venneman (Ann), Chao (E), Evans (D), Timmy Thompson, Martinez, Mineta, Paige, Peake.
            Ari Fleischer–press Secy was the only jew.
            And also–stop making jejune jokes about people you don’t know.

          • who_me July 5, 2012 at 9:26 am #

            Ariadna Theokopoulos

            July 5, 2012 at 2:34 am

            oh, oh, i made mother superior ariadna mad. :p

            yes, you’re right, i did confuse cabinet with administration. i did think it a strange comment in that context.

          • Jay Knott July 4, 2012 at 5:52 am #

            You’re too soft, Ariadna! Clearly, Pat Buchanan is controlled opposition, working for the zionazi new world order, and anyone who doesn’t see this is… Seriously, his ‘The Unnecessary War’ is a helpful contribution to reevaluating our understanding of WWII.

          • who_me July 4, 2012 at 6:01 am #

            “You’re too soft, Ariadna! Clearly, Pat Buchanan is controlled opposition, working for the zionazi new world order, and anyone who doesn’t see this is… Seriously, his ‘The Unnecessary War’ is a helpful contribution to reevaluating our understanding of WWII.”

            why did he endorse bush, jay? does you’re sort of “controlled opposition” involve supporting bush and his wars for israel, while stating to duped fans he opposed such crimes?

            btw, i have not read any of buchanon’s booklets, but from what i’ve seen of his actions (do you know the word – actions, jay?) his speil about ww2 probally ranks less than trevor dupey’s on a scale of accuracy.

          • Jay Knott July 4, 2012 at 6:16 am #

            He endorsed Bush for the same reason most Republicans endorse the Republican candidate – he thought he was the lesser of the two evils, from a Republican point of view. ‘Actions’? He didn’t volunteer for Lebanon in 2006: he’s a politician and a historian. His contribution to undermining Jewish power is writing books and articles about the pre-war, anti-war, anti-Jewish-power right, and pointing to the elephant in the room in the occupied territories.

          • who_me July 4, 2012 at 6:33 am #

            “He endorsed Bush for the same reason most Republicans endorse the Republican candidate – he thought he was the lesser of the two evils, from a Republican point of view. ‘Actions’? He didn’t volunteer for Lebanon in 2006: he’s a politician and a historian. His contribution to undermining Jewish power is writing books and articles about the pre-war, anti-war, anti-Jewish-power right, and pointing to the elephant in the room in the occupied territories.”

            he clearly stated the zionazi’s man weas doing a good job. if the sod sells you turds because it’s the party line, wtf does that say about him? this isn’t party politics, jay, it’s class politics. buchanan knows his place, he knows his class, he knows his job, just like obama and bush and romney do.

            like greenstain he plays his assigned audience (assigned is the operative word here) and delivers the bs that will free their consciences to continue with the program israel/jp decides they need to pursue.

          • pgg804 July 4, 2012 at 7:27 am #

            I agree. Buchanan is a serious historian. Anyone interested in how and why WW II started can listen to his interview on antiwar.com.

            Here is the interview:

            http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/07/23/pat-buchanan-4/

          • who_me July 4, 2012 at 8:06 am #

            lol, pgg

            standard distrortions found in jewish approved american history book to american teenagers.

            the americans had little to do with german defeat on the ground.

            does buchanon mention the jewish bankers telling the allies give us our plot and we will continue to fund your war? which those nice capitalists,of which those same “let’s not mention them” jewish capitalists enthusiastically initiated?

            no?

            he plays the usual jew games and blames the proxies and ignores jp.

          • Jay Knott July 4, 2012 at 8:33 am #

            Right. Pat Buchanan is not an illiterate fascist troll. He doesn’t make allegations without evidence. He gives sources. Suspicious…

          • who_me July 4, 2012 at 8:59 am #

            “Right. Pat Buchanan is not an illiterate fascist troll. He doesn’t make allegations without evidence. He gives sources. Suspicious…”

            like you he can write in “white” english, jay knott. that makes his support for bush’s zionazi wars legit.

            right?

            btw, does buchanan still think the usa should have continued to support the nazis indefinitely?

          • pgg804 July 5, 2012 at 1:29 am #

            I agree with you who_me. Buchanan does overlook the large cash payments that powerful Jews made to Churchill to put him in their corner and attack Germany. The historian that discovered this and revealed it in his book “Churchill’s War” was David Irving and he has paid for it ever since. He has been jailed several times, he has had his house robbed, he has been physically attacked, he has had a very lucrative career destroyed by powerful Jews opposed to his books and he has been insulted and called the worst names for more than 30 years. I don’t know of anyone else prepared to pay so much for what he believes (and in fact is documented).

            Irving set up his own publishing house years ago when the big publishers stopped publishing his books. He is the most important historian of WW II and has received the highhest compliments from other top historians and leading newspapers like the London Times and NY times, but as he explains in this video that all changed when he published his book “Hitler’s War” in 1977.

            Buchanan’s discussion about the territories taken from Germany that she wanted back and Britain’s promise to Poland is excellent. Except for Irving, other historians don’t even discuss these things. According to them Germany had no rights to these lands even decrying “the re-militarization of the Rhineland” which was German territory.

            So even if Buchanan differs from Irving on some things, he still deserves credit (and his book was praised by Irving). Irving has also had colleagues murdered. If Buchanan is not ready to put his life in jeopardy, I don’t blame him. I don’t have the will or bravery David Irving has either.

            David Irving’s discussion about his book “Churchill’s War”. The most ineteresting speech I have ever heard.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsFCUNm6Okw

          • pgg804 July 5, 2012 at 1:34 am #

            However, I’m not aware of the USA supporting NAZIS at all. Like Churchill, FDR was voicing the biggest lies imaginable to bring the USA into WW II.

          • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 5, 2012 at 1:58 am #

            I think it is the case of American corporations doing business with IG Farben Industrie and Simmens

          • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 5, 2012 at 1:57 am #

            Re: David Irving– he is also banned from countries like Germany, Australia, NZ, I am not sure about France but that’s likely. He still tours the US although I cannot imagine how he can get rent any lecture hall

          • who_me July 5, 2012 at 2:03 am #

            pgg804

            “Buchanan’s discussion about the territories taken from Germany that she wanted back and Britain’s promise to Poland is excellent. Except for Irving, other historians don’t even discuss these things. According to them Germany had no rights to these lands even decrying “the re-militarization of the Rhineland” which was German territory.”

            some must have because i grew up knowing the territories had been taken from germany after ww1 and the nazi’s first land grabs mostly involved taking these regions back. so did kids i went to school with. it’s common knowledge.

            “However, I’m not aware of the USA supporting NAZIS at all.”

            you’ve never heard of the names rockefellar and bush? :D for bush, check out what tarplay has written. for rockefellar, put the name with nazis in a search and should get a wealth of returns. you would be surprised how many other american oligarchs supported nazi germany up to, and even during the war. nazis were imported by the american establishment after the war, the love affair continued.

          • pgg804 July 5, 2012 at 2:41 am #

            Perhaps its the way it was presented then. I have never heard any sympathy for the German position that they had a right to have the territories stolen from them back. In fact the Americans and British consider any sympathy for the German position to be voiced only by the worst possible human being – “NAZI sympathizers” are ostracized, attacked, jailed or worse.

            Rockefeller, Bush, IBM and anyone else doing business with Germany did so because it was the most technologically advanced country in the world and they did it to benefit themselves, not Germany.

            The USA brought “NAZIS” as you call them to the country so they could establish a space program, be the first to the moon and have the scientists that built the first jet help them build jets for the USA. The Germans produced the first jets and rockets during WW II and the USA wanted the German engineers/scientists that made them, or else the Soviet Union would have them and leave the USA in the dust.

            Even the “Manhattan Project” that produced the first atomic bomb was invented by Germans or Europeans that at least went to school in Germany. The American head of the Manhattan Project, Robert Oppenheimer went to school in Germany and received his PHD from a German university. Quite a few of the scientists were Jews. They did business with the Germans to get advanced technology.

          • pgg804 July 5, 2012 at 2:54 am #

            And I believe it was Gilad Atzmon who related that in 1933 Germany had more Nobel Prizes than Great Britain and the USA combined. Its easy to verify – just count the # of Nobel Prize winners from each country.

            Americans (and other countries) did business with “NAZIS” for the same reason Iranians will do business with their enemies today – for money and technology.

          • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 5, 2012 at 3:09 am #

            You are correct, pgg8o4, and besides, calling all Germans “Nazis” is nothing but an unconscious assimilation of zionist brain-washing

          • pgg804 July 5, 2012 at 3:24 am #

            Thank you Ariadna.

          • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 5, 2012 at 3:45 am #

            I attended a lecture given once in NYC by a visiting German professor who was then in his late 70s. By way of presentation, in the beginning, he said “My name is X. I was born in Pomerania, Danzig to be precise, which was then Germany, I studied at… etc”
            The lecture went on uneventfully but later in the lab, not in his presence, of course, an American (not jewish) got a lot of laughs when he put an index finger under his nose, pulled the hair on one side of his head on his forehead and proceeded to goose step saying “Danzig was in Germany and we want it back.”
            It was serials like Stalag 13 and countless movies that established indelibly the equation German= Nazi in the American consciousness.

          • who_me July 5, 2012 at 9:30 am #

            Ariadna Theokopoulos

            July 5, 2012 at 3:09 am

            “You are correct, pgg8o4, and besides, calling all Germans “Nazis” is nothing but an unconscious assimilation of zionist brain-washing”

            if the german=nazi part of that is directed at something i wrote, it’s misrepresentation or a pathetic attempt at a strawman.

          • Jonathon Blakeley July 5, 2012 at 12:15 am #

            Funny… :-) @ Jay Knot

    • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 4, 2012 at 4:30 am #

      Buchannan is the old-boy, Goy boy that is, remnant of the Republican Party, which was displaced by the formerly radical left jews ( the Kristols) and by the early-positioned republican jews (the Kissinger mold).
      He would have likely cheered a jingoistic all-American war; his patriotism, however, was aroused by the realization that American wars are now waged for the benefit of a foreign country whose lobbyists run the Congress

  9. pgg804 July 4, 2012 at 3:54 am #

    Who is JP?

  10. pgg804 July 4, 2012 at 3:58 am #

    oh

    • who_me July 4, 2012 at 4:16 am #

      pgg804

      “oh”

      yeah, oh. ;D

      • pgg804 July 4, 2012 at 4:31 am #

        I was just acknowledging that I understood what you were saying.

  11. etominusipi July 4, 2012 at 6:36 am #

    good article, Richard. for the benefit of waverers and ziopatsies may i draw attention to a list i recently posted on another deLiberation comment section:

    http://www.deliberation.info/zionist-attempt-to-whitewash-gaza-realities/comment-page-1/#comment-9607

    that compilation by Robert Wilton in 1920 showed how Jews dominated the Bolshevik faction which took over Russia in 1917. a coup d’etat, funded by Jewish capitalists in New York and London. prior to this the Jews in Russia had been controlled. their revenge was not so much sweet, as cruel and bloodthirsty (cf the Cheka, the Holomodor). for a time, under Stalin, “anti-semitism” was on the statute books as a capital offence. the Orthodox tradition was sidelined and atheism declared the official ‘religion’.

    likewise, though by different methods, and in the changed context afforded by the existence of Israel as a rogue Jewish racist state, armed to the teeth, a Jewish coup d’etat has taken place in the US. although this development, steered by Kissinger for several decades, had effectively come to fruition during the presidency of the easily blackmailed Clinton (who, with some originality, chose his penis as the channel for passing top-secret intel to his Mossadnik handler, Monica Lewinsky), 9/11 was its triumphant, and iconic, announcement to the world.

    hence the paranoid atmosphere, with its Orwellian emphasis on ‘thought-crime’ and ‘hate-crime’ and the normalisation of the idea that everyone should spy on their neighbour, the by now completely phoney ‘democracy’, the ritual burning of the constitution (dubya’s ‘piece of paper’) and the recent and rapid shift towards ‘totalitarian’ methods of policing and population control…

    no need to elaborate. others have published many details. in particular Bro Nathanael has done a wonderful job of collating and documentation of the multifaceted symptomatology.

    perhaps for many liberal intellectuals who are not paid-up servants of the Zionocracy, these facts are a herd of ‘elephants in the room’. thinkers who naively ignore the elephants have a hard time making sense of it all. those who pretend the elephants don’t exist, or are just a pack of mice, are deviously motivated. we are all aware of the stink of elephant shit in every corner of our lives.

    • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 4, 2012 at 2:53 pm #

      About your list
      Jay would likely say that ‘cumulative’ evidence is not probatory because, just as the jews in the banking system whose overwhelming preponderance may only mean they are smarter and better at it, the jews at the head of of the bolshevik revolution and repressive system in the Soviet Union may only mean that as a group jews were only more… revolutionary.

      Paul would ask: But did they really act as jews or only as revolutionaries? When do jews act as jews?

      I would say to Jay’s proposition that if representatives of a group that is less than 1% of the country’s population occupy most of the leadership positions in the Party’s hierarchy and in the repressive apparatus of the state (not just the NKVD but the gulag system as well) what is certain is that:
      — randomness is excluded
      — tribal collusion is a given
      — any explanation based on superiority of intelligence is racist crap and any based on higher revolutionary spirit is contradicted by consistently anti-revolutionary behavior in jewish life and practices like the shtetl matrix in its old and ‘modern’ forms or the devotion to religious practices (circumcision) among jewish self-declared non-believers. The “revolutionary spirit” only manifests itself against the established Goyisch institutions (statal, cultural and religious) of the state where they assume control.
      When do Jews act as jews, asks Paul.
      I think that a jew, any individual jew, does not act ‘as a jew,’ except in his personal life. JewS, however, almost always act as JewS.
      The metaphor of the drop of sea water being transparent and colorless and the ocean being blue applies.
      The difference is one of tribal political identity/affiliation.
      I take “jews acting as jews” to mean (1) conscious cultural and political identity and tribal affiliation and (2) acting in a way that places tribal interests above all others, and I see #1 as being proven by #2, which is behavior.
      Trotsky is often given as an example of a jew who who was above all else an “internationalist” but if so, by what law of probability was his staff entirely jewish? Or did he pick them for their superior revolutionary spirit?
      Other arguments I have seen are of the lower order of “How come Madoff stole from Jews? (at the very end, after he had exhausted the goy sources…)
      or “How come giants of the entertainment industry in the US–jews–are fighting each other?”–both invalid because those are simply instances of skirmishes among the fat cats in the shtetl.
      A dispassionate and considerate historian’s documentation of the leading role of Jews in the Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union (which Paul considers “unclear”) is given by Soljenitsyn in Two Centuries Together (available in French translation: Deux Siecles Ensemble), which I mentioned in a dialog with aema. aema countered by saying he had not read the book but could not believe it (it being S’s ‘anti-semitism’) because he had met one of Soljenitsyn’s sons at a party..
      When do Jews act as jews? When more than 300 get together? 30? I don’t know. Most of the time.

      • Jay Knott July 4, 2012 at 5:18 pm #

        Ariadna – firstly, I don’t see that superior intelligence and successful networking are mutually exclusive explanations of Jewish success. Or how you can combine leftist phrases like ‘racist crap’ with an honest attempt to understand Jewish power.

        Having said that, this doesn’t mean I’m convinced of every example of Jewish power I read about. Trotsky is a massive counter-example to the ‘Bolshevism was a Jewish thing’ hypothesis – if it were true, he wouldn’t have gotten ice-axed by a bunch of Russians led by a Georgian. If all his staff were Jewish, as you allege without evidence, this only adds to falsifying that hypothesis.

        Your argument about Madoff shows your ingenuity, if nothing else.

        • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 4, 2012 at 11:15 pm #

          “Networking” is as apt a term to describe the steady and relentless replacement of Goyim in positions of control with Jews as is the bucolic term “settler” to denote the murderous and thieving squatters in Palestine.
          How does this “successful networking” work? “Hi, Jacob, it’s Shlomo. We have a VP opening at Lehman Bros. I though you’d be a good fit. Apply, who knows? No problem, you’re welcome.”

          Can you give me a list of “leftist phrases” so I can avoid them? I didn’t know there was one. I thought crap was common if vulgar parlance.

          Thanks for the chuckle over Trotsky. So, give it to me again so I can remember it. Bolshevism was NOT dominated/controled by jews because Trotsky’s all jewish staff should have prevented his assassination by a Goy?

  12. happeh July 4, 2012 at 5:44 pm #

    “One thing I’ve observed over the course of a lifetime is that Jews change their colors like a chameleon. …. Jews played key roles in both the civil rights and anti-war movements. But then as Jewish power in America expanded and solidified, Jews, practically en masse, crossed from the left to the right side of the political divide.”

    You say that as if it was a spontaneous movement of a group of people. Why do you believe that?

    Knowing the history of Israelis, why don’t you believe that those positions and change in positions were all purposefully done according to a plan?

    If you want to understand Israelis it is very easy. All you have to do is read a series of books called “The Foundation Series” by Isaac Asimov. It is a factual description of Israelis masquerading as “Science Fiction”.

    If you don’t want to read the books, in short they say “a group” of people think they are the smartest people in the world and work to control history for the betterment of humanity.

    Just change the “betterment of humanity” to the “betterment of Israelis”, ignore the science fiction trappings, and you have a factual account of Israelis, what they think, what their goals are, and the methods they use.

    Telepathy and Possession being the two most important ones.

  13. etominusipi July 4, 2012 at 6:41 pm #

    very interesting, Αριάδνη. if you will forgive what might be taken as a compliment, and other readers will pardon the brief digression, may i say that i have felt you express a very rare combination of qualities in your writing – piquant wit and powerful intellect coupled with a high degree of empathic intuition. thus, for me at least, your posts provide insights which penetrate deeper than is usual towards the essence of some of the complex questions and complex attitudes which we have the privilege of engaging with in this (to me, a blogosphere debutant) uniquely vital online debating society @deLiberation.

    your ocean/drop analogy prompts me to attempt to articulate something that has flitted around the cavern of my mental recess for a while now, concerning the question of Jewish identity.

    before i do so, may i start a small hare of distraction. there is another, not entirely unrelated matter:
    Paul, on more than one occcasion, has noted that he is not entirely at ease with Gilad’s notion of the anti-zionist zionist. i think this is an interesting idea, but i sympathise with Paul in thinking that if the -AZZ word is to be employed as a serious polemic weapon, it should be carefully defined. otherwise it simply becomes an inverted form of the infamous accusation of anti-semitism. i may simply be showing my naivety in saying this, as, for all i know, that very mirroring may have been one of the motives for the coinage – saxophonists, in particular, are known for an off-beat sense of humour which arises from frequent participation in agogic rituals in the temples of syncopation….

    notwithstanding, (M’lud), would anyone besides me like to see a short video in which Paul and Gilad discussed this matter? it need not be impromptu. if there is any meat in the issue (i.e. a genuine, and interesting, contrast in points of view), it would best serve the community to issue a final cut in which their perception of this difference was clearly articulated by each speaker. i think, to add icing to the cake, we could invite Messrs Greenstein and Alibunimah to make their own video, critiquing the discussion between Paul and Gilad. well, perhaps not that last bit. but Paul and Gilad on AZZ?

    the hare, released, now leaps across the dusty track and disappears into the undergrowth of the encompassing woodland. sunset. church bells. the lowing of distant cattle. and, from somewhere in deep memory, the whistle of a locomotive.

    back to the drop and the ocean. i’ll be brief and terse now.

    Q to what extent is Gilad’s concept of Jewish identity psychological?

    it might be argued that there is a more purely sociological aspect of Jewish identity that is perhaps simpler than, though not separate from, the three characteristics which Gilad identifies in TWW. perhaps ‘simpler’ is the wrong word – it is not, after all, so simple. less elaborated, maybe? i am thinking of a sense of belongingto…

    and there’s the rub! belonging to what?

    what is the Jewish ‘ocean’? in fact the historico/sociocultural/genetic/linguistic/theological/geopolitical… circumstances associated with ‘Jewishness’ are extremely complex, and they are effectively unique. it follows, and this may actually be a problem, there is no appropriate categorical noun to describe such an organism as constitute Jews collectively. to that extent some idea of Jewishness being exceptional, of which chosen-ness is really only the negative, narcissistic and exploitative expression, is justified by facts.

    sometimes the metaphor of Tribe is used. this is inaccurate from an anthropological perspective. but if we do use it for a moment, it may be stated that there is no other tribe like the Jews. this does not mean they should rule the planet. the aspiration to such rule, on the part of some Jews, is problematic for the rest of humanity.

    i will leave it there, since i have no answers. only these, unfortunately rather vague, adumbrations of questions.

    • fool me once... July 4, 2012 at 7:25 pm #

      Spurgetastic post etominusipi, well good :)

    • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 5, 2012 at 12:52 am #

      Thanks you, you are forgiven.
      I very much enjoyed descriptions like these: “[a saxophonist's] off-beat sense of humour which arises from frequent participation in agogic rituals in the temples of syncopation….” and “the hare, released, now leaps across the dusty track and disappears into the undergrowth of the encompassing woodland. sunset. church bells. the lowing of distant cattle. and, from somewhere in deep memory, the whistle of a locomotive” (Magritte’ meets Corot) but didn’t you mention Asperger? If so it is becoming eroded. To my mind Asperger has the classical, controlled elegance of a French garden that messy English gardens do not possess. Are there Asperger Schools where one can go to have it restored? I started going to Berlitz when people stopped telling me I have an “intriguing” foreign accent and feared I was fallig into a mid-Atlantic sound. But enough about fascinating people; let’s talk about Gilad and Paul instead, as you propose.
      No, as it happens, I don’t think it is a good idea to have a Gilad-Paul discussion about AZZ. I think that superimposing diverse but rather nuanced patterns of thought to compare and establish differences often only succeeds in thickening the contours of both to near falsification. Let them each speak in turn when they want to and let make what we can of them. (least of all would I be curious to know what the likes of Abounimah thinks about these.)

      The way I understand Paul’s position is that his difficulty with Gilad’s AZZ category has to do with apparent authentic ‘anti-zionists”–the likes of greenies –who claim persuasively they are one-state supporters. They do, however, support and defend JP indirectly in speeches and directly in actions but they are against the state of Israel. Paul himself, on the other hand is very much against JP, against Israel’s policies vis-a-vis Palestinians but would not Israel to cease to exist and agonizes over conceivable ways to (a) curb JP; (b) cleanse Israel of its wickedness.

      Saying that “Jewishness” is unique, while true, is not really saying much. Masons are unique too, as are other cultural/ideological groups that forge an identity based not on historical continuity in a given geographical/ cultural space but on the idea of specialness/superiority and a mission (“light unto the wolrd”).
      I think that what differentiated Jews from all other convivi at the Superiority Table (and continues to do so) was from the beginning the concurrent fixation/worship/ of MONEY.
      Money, gold, as a symbol of security, power, superiority. Jewish children learn this early on: while Christian children get toys and sweets for Christmas, jewish kids traditionally get Hannukah GELD. Even if it is in the form of chocolate coins wrapped in golden foil, it is the fetish that stands for the fetish that represents the most desirable thing in life, above all else. That this has been a notable feature to the Goyim’s perception of Jews in all the countries where jews settled was not a Gentile conspiracy of hate.
      It runs through from the New Testament (Jesus chasing the money changers) to the ME to Renaissance (Marlow’s Jew of Malta, Skakespeare’s Merchant of Venice, Moliere’s L’Avare, Dickens’ Fagin) all the way to ….. Goldman Sachs.
      Money as goal in itself, as an almost metaphysical talisman, and money as an instrument of power against the always hated and assumed hating gentiles.

      • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 5, 2012 at 12:55 am #

        Sorry. Inow see so many typos in the above that I will not take up space to correct them (introducing others in the process)–if anything is unclear I will spell it out.

  14. fool me once... July 5, 2012 at 1:43 am #

    etominusipi, apologies if my comment above appeared rude, I thought your post was real good and meant it as a genuine compliment.

    • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 5, 2012 at 1:59 am #

      It didn’t seem rude at all–a joyous exclamation of admiration

      • fool me once... July 5, 2012 at 3:11 am #

        “a joyous exclamation of admiration”
        Cheers, that’s what I’d have said if I’d have thought of it.
        The reason why I apologised was ‘cos of your “French garden, messy garden” comment as it made me think that I’d been insensitive to a sensitive sound dude, so it’s only right to say soz.
        Whilst we’re on about understandings, was I on the right trip with my “subtle” reply to your “try harder” puzzle?
        (“Takes The Biscuit” thread)

        • Ariadna Theokopoulos July 5, 2012 at 4:14 am #

          No. I don’t think so but I won’t go back to look because it is very late.
          I don’t remember in what ditch of vulgar and improper word associations I was rolling, misogynistic to boot, so shame on me, but that is a saying about flat chested women.

          • fool me once... July 5, 2012 at 4:41 am #

            I’m glad I stopped guessing, wouldn’t of thought of you as a misoger! gnite

  15. who_me July 5, 2012 at 9:54 am #

    pgg804

    July 5, 2012 at 2:41 am

    “I have never heard any sympathy for the German position that they had a right to have the territories stolen from them back. In fact the Americans and British consider any sympathy for the German position to be voiced only by the worst possible human being – “NAZI sympathizers” are ostracized, attacked, jailed or worse.”

    the view i’ve heard most often is that the nazis were justified in retrieving the parts of germany that had been taken from germany after ww1. where most people objected was when the nazis decided to take more. this is from americans with some knowledge of the history, rather than casual watchers of hollywood films about it.

    “Rockefeller, Bush, IBM and anyone else doing business with Germany did so because it was the most technologically advanced country in the world and they did it to benefit themselves, not Germany.”

    they did it for the money and many also felt kinship to the nazis. the nazis were not some ostracised group to the european and american polygarchies. they were “one of the boys”. fellow rich fascists. the nazis were not some group who appeared out of nowhere and aquired a political following by using street smarts, they were backed from the early days by big money. the corporate class of both europe and american mostly welcomed the nazi and many of them helped them and supported them. this was class solidarity. think of hitler as a more powerful saddam hussein.

    “The USA brought “NAZIS” as you call them to the country so they could establish a space program,”

    the scientists are not the people i am talking about. i’m talking about the various gestapo, ss, mengela’s, collaborators and quislings from different nazi occupied countries, etc. these worked with the cia, and other american repression outfits around the world. some of these were still being used as late as the 90’s. a couple of the croatian collaborators brought to the usa after the war, later went back to yugoslavia after the ussr/eastern block collapse and stirred up the civil war there during the 90’s. there is a huge difference between these people and scientists doing r&d.

    • pgg804 July 6, 2012 at 6:44 am #

      Except for the Soviet Union, Germany did not attack any countries that were not comprised of land stolen from Germany and Austria after WW I and had large German populations. France and Great Britain declared war on Germany immediately after Germany declared war on Poland. Poland was created in 1919 from German, Austrian and Russian territory and the new country had a significant German population. FDR was spewing out the propaganda to spread the hate and justify going to war against Germany long before the war even started. How does that fit with your theory that he thought “the nazis were justified in retrieving the parts of germany that had been taken from germany after ww1″?

      “the scientists are not the people i am talking about. i’m talking about the various gestapo, ss, mengela’s, collaborators and quislings from different nazi occupied countries, etc. these worked with the cia”.

      So in this case too you agree with what I said, the Americans brought these people to the USA to benefit the USA, in this case the CIA.

      “they did it for the money and many also felt kinship to the nazis. the nazis were not some ostracised group to the european and american polygarchies. they were “one of the boys”. fellow rich fascists”. Can you prove this? You seem to be arguing that Rockefeller, IBM, Bush and AMerica’s corporate class was weak and had no power in the USA, or else how would you explain the USA getting into the war against Germany? And if they were so friendly with the NAZIS, why did they produce the tanks, planes and bombs to fight Germany. Do Americans murder other people they love too? Do they drop bombs on their parents, sons and daughters?

      And what if some people did sympathize with the Germans or “NAZIS”? If more people had, WW II could have been avoided if the Germans could have had their stolen land back and the millions of German people liberated from foreign occupation (Bohemia, Moravia, Danzig, “Polish Corridor”, etc.)

      This doesn’t make sense either. “Rich fascists”? NAZI is a word of disdain and contempt created by those that hated National Socialists. There was no “NAZI” party. Its name was National Socialist German Workers Party. Interestingly, although communism’s most bitter enemy, National Socialism was a form of socialism and valued the worker. It was also militaristic, chauvinistic and bigoted. But so were/are other nations.

  16. who_me July 6, 2012 at 7:06 am #

    pgg804

    “FDR was spewing out the propaganda to spread the hate and justify going to war against Germany long before the war even started. How does that fit with your theory that he thought “the nazis were justified in retrieving the parts of germany that had been taken from germany after ww1″? ”

    that is a gross misrepresentation of what i wrote:

    “the view i’ve heard most often is that the nazis were justified in retrieving the parts of germany that had been taken from germany after ww1. where most people objected was when the nazis decided to take more. this is from americans with some knowledge of the history, rather than casual watchers of hollywood films about it.”

    you apparently lack the reasoning capability or the honesty to address what i write without twisting it into some weird fantasy of your own.

    looks like i got suckered by a troll. :D

  17. pgg804 July 6, 2012 at 7:21 am #

    Is this an example of American oligarchs and America’s “corporate class” supporting the NAZIS?

    When an American Jew wrote a book called ‘Germany Must Perish!’in 1940 calling for the mass sterilization of the entire German population to kill the race off, America’s corporate class supported the plan and called it a “sensational idea”. Those were the words of Time Magazine in its review of March 24, 1941, nine months before the USA even entered WW II. Other American oligarchs gave the book respectful attention in their newspapers.

    http://www.ihr.org/books/kaufman/perish.html

  18. who_me July 6, 2012 at 7:43 am #

    hey pgg804, i was just reading this essay that i think you might really enjoy:

    http://petras.lahaine.org/?p=1902

    “Immediately following the defeat of fascist-capitalist regimes with the defeat of Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union and its political allies in Eastern Europe embarked on a massive program of reconstruction, recovery, economic growth and the consolidation of power, based on far-reaching socio-economic welfare reforms. The great fear among Western capitalist regimes was that the working class in the West would “follow” the Soviet example or, at a minimum, support parties and actions which would undermine capitalist recovery. Given the political discredit of many Western capitalists because of their collaboration with the Nazis or their belated, weak opposition to the fascist version of capitalism, they could not resort to the highly repressive methods of the past. Instead, the Western capitalist classes applied a two-fold strategy to counter the Soviet collectivist-welfare reforms: Selective repression of the domestic Communist and radical Left and welfare concessions to secure the loyalty of the Social and Christian Democratic trade unions and parties.”

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