Comments on: Edelweiss, Mondoweiss RIP

By: Jay Knott

Jay Knott — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 05:01:02 +0000

“Smoking is bad for your health” is the government line. According to David’s methodology, it must be false.
Ariadna and David have both got it wrong about ‘frenzy’. My article about antifa/Zio harassment – http://tinyurl.com/9jssftd – isn’t about 9/11, but because it mentions my lack of belief in the ‘theory’, it drove truthers into a frenzy. Truthers are easily provoked if you casually admit you are an unbeliever.

“My mate Weiss”. No, he’s not my mate. I dismissed Mondoweiss months ago – http://tinyurl.com/9vrcdpo

By: Ariadna Theokopoulos

Ariadna Theokopoulos — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:54:15 +0000

“I thought he literally meant what he could see out of his window in the back yard”

It’s both: now metaphorical wave, now solid corpuscle. He used the model of the one in his backyard to create the metaphorical one.
Note: none of the 5 “jay” is jay and I am definitely not there.

By: fool me once...

fool me once... — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:32:30 +0000

@AT
“I have no intention of taking up residence in the metaphorical “family tree” to which you refer in a comment on the post Blind Man Tasered”
Wow! Is that what DH was meaning in that BMT comment? I thought he literally meant what he could see out of his window in the back yard. Thank f… you’re here to decipher!
Nice one David, now it’s been explained that was a good metaphor. You should Tweet it .
So who’s who?
“3 crows (a family unit)
1 squirrel (grey)
1 moorhen
1 sparrow
1 robin
5 jays (a family unit)
several itinerant cole tits – intermittent visits
1 pheasant
despite a sign warning them to keep out, magpies repeatedly invade the sacred grove. they are tolerated up to a point.”
Are the cole tits, H questioners? (David Cole)
The 5 jays, 911 schmucks?
The magpies, ha ha I’m getting it now, they’re the er… well, let the story metaphorically explain;
http://www.thefinancialfairytales.com/magpie/
btw AT can’t be the grey squirrel even though she does have a large collection of “trophy nuts” hanging off her branch, as she appears to be a rare red.
http://blog.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/squirrels.jpg

By: Ariadna Theokopoulos

Ariadna Theokopoulos — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:58:12 +0000

Smugness disguised as humility (even you had problems with embedding!) and condescending praise may soothe others but it only ruffles my feathers.
Speaking of feathers, Jay (who does not need anyone ELSE to protect and defend him and for whom I speak also) and I have no intention of taking up residence in the metaphorical “family tree” to which you refer in a comment on the post Blind Man Tasered, as others appear to have been fooled by you into doing, only to be given ornithological names by you and receive the same kind of supercilious praise.

Speaking of references to comments on other posts, Edgar Lee Masters’ Spoon River Anthology comes to mind, in which epitaphs on all the stones refer to epitaphs on other stones, creating an organic whole that ties together individual characters into a community.
deLib may go in that direction — I hope –with comments on one posts referring to others on other posts, creating a multidimensional dialog, well, polilog.

It is equally possible that this comment will appear incomprehensible even to me upon re-reading once the spring allergy season is over here and the soporific effect of anti-allergic medication disappears.

By: David Holden

David Holden — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 13:34:26 +0000

Roy, this geezer birt lines etc. has some kind of grudge. he calls you an AS.

why not offer him a thread on deLib “Why i hate X”, on condition that he doesn’t post anywhere else. and that we will check each post to estimate the likely percentage software generated.

some of the troll software goes back quite a while and hasn’t aged well. they tinker with it, but they haven’t found any way of incorporating a non-algorithmic highly distributed parallel-processor model – their still grappling with OOP. a lot of it was written in pre-war COBOL.

allowing one thread might eventually generate a valuable source of data for future hate-researchers.

By: Roy Bard

Roy Bard — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 10:54:56 +0000

My old friend tribe lines/bertliines etc etc (ad naseum) will love it.

He can already post nonsense to Indymedia uk which is readable – here’s a few days work from him:

Excatly how much of this vendetta would deLiberation like to carry?

By: David Holden

David Holden — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 10:00:57 +0000

i’m glad you like it. a sort of quarantine. what struck me is basically an information theory point.

it is one thing to ‘censor’ a comment by removing it from a thread into a quarantine area. it is another to completely erase from the record both the comment AND the fact that it had been submitted.

the comment should remain accessible, because that is the most transparent procedure. by examining the quarantined comments, an experienced investigator could piece together the de facto censorship policy, rather than meekly accept the declared de jure policy.

a persistent troll could be rewarded by giving it its own thread in the quarantine.

Ariadna’s commercial idea re IPP seems to have a lot of mileage in it. maybe a revenue stream from a premium plus membership category for deLiberation readers who want to access the hard-core quarantine material.

By: David Holden

David Holden — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:18:15 +0000

sometimes your archive skills astonish me, Ariadna. "i have this fantasy, ...this idea that gay men share the same...sex drive,...similar,...you know, they're more alike..." btw perhaps quiet congratulations are in order as you have mastered the wordpress art of embedding Mr Mondo in a comment on a post by someone else. this little bit of html is liberating. and despite your teasing,your compassionate side would be happy to learn that i have only very recently overcome a potent personal mental block (PPMB or potaf-tomenvlo) against html that has maintained itself through over two decades of staunch resistance on the technophobic barricades.

By: David Holden

David Holden — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:02:56 +0000

this squabble would be unseemly if conducted on either of the Judaeo-Christian shabbatim. Ariadna, you tease Jay with mentioning less-than-ten-more-than-eight-slash-more-than-ten-less-than-twelve. you know his phobia...his nightmares...yes, you are trying to protect him. i can see that. it is noble in you to make that attempt. but is not sometimes the cure worse than the disease, the antidote deadlier than the venom, the protection massively more damaging than the threat had ever been? the very mention of less-than-ten-more-than-eight-slash-more-than-ten-less-than-twelve in Jay's presence is like waving a red rag in front of an angry bull. hence my careful circumlocution. i want to signal to Jay that it's OK with me. same goes for less-than-eight-more-than-six-more-than-six-less-than-eight. i can see why Jay would have been able to form his view on that without even examining any evidence, simply because of the easily-recognised conspiratorial nature of those who oppose the British Government's version of events. you must admit that Jay's methodology is efficient. you don't accept the government line. but you accept that those who say they don't believe a word of it are conspiracy theorists. since conspiracy theorists are always wrong, by definition, then every single word (by a simple reversal of the universal quantifier under a negation symbol* which is a very handy feature of hyperlogic) in the government account must be true. so you arrive at the assertion that the government is right after all, but in a much more informed and epistemologically elegant manner. * ¬ (pron. knott)

By: David Holden

David Holden — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:47:24 +0000

it’s too good a phrase to have been a spontaneous PW-speech-act. checking this hunch, google comes up with:

NUMBER: 6279
AUTHOR: Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803–1882)
QUOTATION: A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.

il s’accuse?