Burner against Burner
by Gilad Atzmon
Friday, July 20th, 2012
By Gilad Atzmon
Earlier this week we learned that Israeli Knesset Member Michael Ben-Ari (National Union) tore the New Testament to pieces and then threw it in the trash.
MK Ben –Ari was quoted as saying “This abhorrent book (The New Testament) promoted the murders of millions of Jews during the Inquisition and the autos da fé… this is an ugly missionary provocation by the Church, there’s no doubt that the book and its senders belong in the trash of history.”
Unfortunately, such a disgraceful attitude towards a text is no more or less than one would expect from a Zionist Jew, after all, herem, excommunication, boycott and book burning are all firmly embedded in both Jewish culture and Jewish politics. Still, I was a little surprised to read Ali Abunimah’s critical report on the event, because, only three months ago Abunmiah himself joined forces with Abe Foxman, Alan Dershowitz and the entire AZZ community in a desperate book burning campaign. That time it was my book The Wandering Who? that was the ‘abhorrent book’ desperately in need of binning.
United in their loathing of One man and his Book
But Abunimah learned quickly that book burning is a dangerous game. Unfortunately for him my book didn’t catch light, it just became more popular – and in many more languages. In fact rather than my book, it was Abunimah’s credibility that became the object of scrutiny by a growing number of leading analysts and commentators (see below).
Anyway, I’m sure that Abunimah drew the necessary lessons. This week he was even gracious enough to offer MK Ben Ari some moral advice. At the end of his article Abunimah cleverly asks “What would the thousands of Christian Zionists attending CUFI say if they saw an Israeli Knesset member destroying the Bible and dumping it in the trash?”
An astute question indeed and I suspect we all know the answer. For some strange reason, books do not burn well – but book burners do.
A collection of reactions to Ali Abunimah’s call for Disavowal:
*Washington Report- Gilad Atzmon´s Answer to Ali Abunimah
Youtube “Atzmon versus Abunimah”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hrJcMO88EI&feature=youtu.be
Roger Tucker, DeLiberation “Ali Abunimah and Gilad Atzmon at the OK Corral”
http://www.deliberation.info/ali-abunimah-and-gilad-atzmon-at-the-ok-corral/
Rich Siegel, Voltairnet “Permission to examine ‘Jewishness’”
http://www.voltairenet.org/Permission-to-examine-Jewishness
Cynthia McKinney interviews Gilad Atzmon
Alison Weir
Gary Corseri, Dissident Voice “Who is Gilad Atzmon and Who Are We?”
http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/03/who-is-gilad-atzmon-and-who-are-we/#more-43539
Kim Petersen, Dissident Voice
http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/03/a-call-for-the-disavowal-of-splittism/
Professor William A. Cook
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2012/03/pcn-disavowal-of-gilad-atzmon-truth-be-damned/
Richard Edmondson, Leftwing-Christian net
Nahida Izzat, Exiled Palestinian
http://nahidaexiledpalestinian.wordpress.com/2012/03/16/disavow-with-no-mercy-not-in-my-name/
Salem News
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/march142012/real-gilad-atzmon-tk.php
Debbie Menon
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2012/03/abunimah-boycotting-and-censoring-gilad-atzmon/
David Rovics: Disavowing Disavowal – In Defense of Gilad Atzmon http://salem-news.com/articles/march282012/rovics-atzmon.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Salem-news+%28Salem-News.com%29
Kevin Barrett “Why Hate Gilad Atzmon?”
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/kevin-barrett-why-hate-gilad-atzmon.html
Kevin Barrett “Why Hate Gilad Atzmon, part 2″
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/kevin-barrett-why-hate-gilad-atzmon-pt-2-hes-wrong-or-is-he.html
Joe Ortiz Blog
http://son-of-encouragement.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/gilad-aztmons-book-wandering-who-could.html
Greg Felton :Activists Who Talk Like Zionists Continue to Betray Palestine
http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/04/activists-who-talk-like-zionists-continue-to-betray-palestine/
Marc Glenn interviews Gilad Atzmon on Ugly Truth Radio
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/atzmon-on-the-ugly-truth.html#entry15480758
Filmmaker Eli Ungar-Sargon
http://jewschool.com/2012/03/18/28058/the-wandering-who-gilad-atzmon-and-jewish-identity/
PM Press
http://www.pmpress.org/content/article.php/20120316030526668
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Blake
July 20, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Of course there was no condemnation from western governments. One rule for them and another for the goyim (non Jews)
pgg804
July 20, 2012 at 2:58 pm
I was already preparing in my head what I was going to write here when Ali Abunimah said we don’t examine German culture to study the holocaust (amazingly, he makes this speech to Germans who then applaud him) when Gilad beat me to it by saying almost exactly what I wanted to say.
Anti-German bigots like Daniel Goldhagen claim that the holocaust (which he accepts whole as the truth) was perpetrated and supported by the entire psychopathic German population who had it drilled into their heads since the days of Martin Luther that they should murder all the Jews in their midst. When Goldhagen toured Germany promoting his book in the 1990′s the German’s applauded that nut too. Goldhagen’s claim is only a repetition of what the victors have said about the Germans since the end of the war.
who_me
July 20, 2012 at 5:51 pm
both the adl and the azz/fake left opposed that bible trashing for the same exact reasons.
“if the stupid, superstitious goyim see us trashing their religious book, they may get mad at us and that will make it much harder to control them. we, afterall, are superior beings and should think before we act. this bible trashing may feel good, but it hurts the jews in the long run.”
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 20, 2012 at 10:16 pm
“if the stupid, superstitious goyim see us trashing their religious book, they may get mad at us ..”
No. Correction: not Goyim. Just Christians. When a Jew who knows himself to be chosenf eels an urge coming to burn something precious to a Goy he can always safely turn to Islam for his pleasure:
“HARTFORD, Conn. — A Republican candidate for a Connecticut seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, ..Mark Greenberg, one of four Republicans seeking nomination for the congressional seat being vacated by Rep. Chris Murphy, said in an interview on WNPR radio Thursday that Islam is a cult “in many respects.” He added: “I don’t believe that in all manner that Islam is a religion of peace.”
Greenberg, who is Jewish, later issued a statement that he was referring to terrorists. ….
Then he proceeded to explain to Muslims how Islam needs to be reformed…
who_me
July 20, 2012 at 11:00 pm
“No. Correction: not Goyim. Just Christians.”
good point.
Gilad Atzmon
July 21, 2012 at 7:14 am
Good point,,, it is all about ‘what the goyim think of us’ instead of ‘what we are for real’..
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 20, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Maybe Abounimha’s criteria of selection of books worthy of burning are totally different from what Gilad assumes.
I once had an open bookcase with shelves all the way to the floor. I also had a young dog (no longer a puppy but not a mature dog with fully developed canine judgment). I would come home and find a book on the floor, well chewed and practically destroyed. He kept doing it day after day. I suddenly noticed something strange: he only chewed English poetry. Novels or reference books did not interest him. It was a mystery to me because they were not all on the lowest shelves: the dog had to make some effort to “choose” them.
I was telling all my friends about this strange dog of mine that ate only English poetry books. Until one day, another friend who was in the book business solved the mystery: the poetry books were the only ones published/printed in England, all others were bought in the US.
The English books were the only ones that had glue in the binding, and glue, smelling like bones drove him nuts.
I am thinking that Gilad may make a similar mistake I made, assuming a content-related motivation on Abounimah’s part.
Maybe it’s the glue!
Gilad Atzmon
July 21, 2012 at 7:19 am
Ariadna, you are a genius… it makes a lot of sense.. as you know, Abunimah admitted that he didn’t read a single word by me,,, so it must be something slightly more profound that annoyed him..:)
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 8:57 am
When all other explanations fail, I often find wisdom in the lessons I have learned from my interactions with dogs.
I am now working on an explanation for dersh, still eluding me.
Gilad Atzmon
July 21, 2012 at 5:19 pm
you are certainly the funniest person i know…
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Once, many years ago I met Lena Horne after a show of Black &B Blue at the Academy of Music in Brooklyn. She was not IN the show but a spectator and after the show at the cocktail party that I through incredible luck managed to get invited to.
I approached her to be introduced and totally lost my voice, I was so intimidated by her, a legend already but real, in front of me.
She was old already but still stunningly beautiful, and regal, dressed in sparkling white and with that great smile of hers.
I managed only to squeak something about how beautiful she was, in a voice not my own.
I will never forget her reply because it was also the first time I had ever heard that expression–some say it’s pure South but an English friend of mine tells me her mother used it too.
“Oh, do go on!” — which manages to convey modesty (“oh, no, not really…really?) AND an in invitation for the other to continue the praise…
A long story to say:
Oh do go on, Gilad!….
fool me once...
July 21, 2012 at 11:18 am
A Red Rag to Bull!?
AT: “Gilad may make a similar mistake I made, assuming a content-related motivation on Abounimah’s part.”
G: “so it must be something slightly more profound that annoyed him.”
Or even less sagacious! I submit for deliberation; A book-cover colour conflict complex, brought about by surreptitiously administered blighted bovine backdoor sprinkles on his cappuccino’s at PSC coffee breaks, thus explaining the agitation to the perceived sanguine schmarta of the “The Wandering Who”.
(Note; As we already know,these sly subterfugean Sprinklers are also not adverse to more sinister and lethal outcomes for israeli hegemony)
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 11:44 am
I had not considered the red color of the cover of The Wandering Who as a factor BUT since Gilad’s critics have not read the book, but can you prove they even SAW it? If nor your hypothesis is not… falsifiable and your leaps of logic indicate that you are victim of binary logic.
fool me once...
July 21, 2012 at 12:19 pm
So it’s proof you crave
? Ok, how’s about;
55 secs;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdDJvJJsVsU
or
http://azvsas.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/review-wandering-who.html
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 12:48 pm
I examined your proof submissions and found them wanting, fmo, sorry.
1. It’s true that in the first video, the dersh does appear to self-stimulate by waving the book and glancing at the red cover from time to time when he feels himself flagging. Nevertheless his rant (which you forced mew ti listen to) indicates a more complex motivation.
a. He keeps calling Gilad an “obscure” jazz musician. International success clearly eludes him and he has a hard time settling instead for being internationally infamous.
b. He rails against Prof. Mearsheimer being a highly reputed academic and a member of the Amer. Acad… His shot of being considered an academician, or even just a writer, which he gambled all on plagiarizing another liar misfired. He sees Gilad’sbook as being an enormous international success. Pen envy.
2. After the dersh video I didn’t have the stamina to actually read greenie’s thing. One could say that I am critiquing it by the same method used by the critics of Gilad’s book: not reading it…
The title alone, however, left me in doubt that he criticizes any of the ideas in Gilad’s book, he just says the book is not original. Ideas that are not original (in his view, that is) are not ipso facto false. They may represent what everyone knows already or at the very least suspected.
Ay any rate, you presented no proof that it is the color of the cover that sets them off.
Furthermore I have not read anything anywhere about the upsetting effect of the red color on chihuahuas.
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Tell me again, how to I go back to correct the typos I made in the above?
fool me once...
July 21, 2012 at 2:39 pm
My “proof” post was responding to your;
“but can you prove they even SAW it?”
Evidently not, seen as though YOU have now forced ME to watch the video in it’s entirety to prove without a doubt that they have seen the cover and that you are indeed, incorrect. Yes the Dersh glances in the general direction of the book, but is it provable that he actually caught sight of the cover? It’s not provable, for when he does glance in said direction, the object in question is out of shot. When he raises the book from the table and brings the cover into view from the left or right, he stares straight ahead, so again avoiding eye contact. AT 1 – fmo 0
I thought providing the link to another critic of Gilad’s book, TG, would prove without the shadow of a doubt that TG has seen the cover – but wait, where is the proof the TG even wrote or took part in the writing of that article. AT 2 – fmo 0
Nice lesson in gettin’ me facts straight, chin-chin
.
If you have the time, try this “proof” . I have it on good authority, that just off camera, in Klein’s full view is a poster strategically placed, with a picture advertising the yet to be released red covered TWW. He sees it at the beginning of the interview and the effect on his behaviour is caught on camera. He struggles to repress it but fails, such is the power of the Wandering Who on zionists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8lKbcJK3E8
Now view him Wandering Who cover free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_7UhpedNg
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 4:15 pm
It may well show a terribly mean streak in me but upon reading this:
“YOU have now forced ME to watch the video in it’s entirety”
my reaction was:
Nevertheless, you are wrong about the score.
When you said that you have it on good authority, which is to say, friends who told you it is so, that there was a poster, etc, you scored off the charts.
When someone tells me that they know something for sure because they have friends in that country/of that nationality/who were present in the studio at the time of the taping/asoasf, I raise the white flag.
And the winner is… fool me once!
In conclusion it’s the red color of he cover and (may we keep this too, please?) probably the glue in the binding as well.
etominusipi
July 21, 2012 at 3:43 pm
repetition of logic!!!!!!!!!!!
hexplinathory:
af i am noq unbabel to comvent durther, due to ni berve-ilkneff caysinh a lkot ot typoos pmus my fubfequent emoyiomal diftreff caufed by afpergerf-rewated OCD-ptypopjhobia, i fhal qrestrict mtfelf ik fuyure lto fuggeftios fot imrovig the quaslity of other qtiterf’ outputhf. i gope, in thif way, af a jumble affiftant fub-esitoy, to gftill bhee avle to xontribute in fome fmall way, to theve lithely diftcruffionf
etominusipi
July 21, 2012 at 3:46 pm
(Q$*QEHQ)
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 4:18 pm
I coudn’t decipher everything and I hesitate to ask about any words that start with an “f” but this I got:
i fhal qrestrict mtfelf ik fuyure lto fuggeftios fot imrovig the quaslity of other qtiterf’ outputhf.”
and you have my anticipatory thanks.
etominusipi
July 21, 2012 at 4:43 pm
στα βιβλία τυπώθηκαν στην Αγγλία πριν από τα μέσα του 18ου αιώνα χρησιμοποιήθηκε ένα χαρακτήρα που μοιάζει να «f», όπου σήμερα θα εκτυπώσετε ‘s ». Ελπίζω ότι αυτό είναι κάποια βοήθεια.
etominusipi
July 21, 2012 at 4:54 pm
το μεγαλύτερο μέρος της κρυπτογράφησης υπόλοιπα είναι αντικατάσταση των παρακείμενων κλειδιών. η καλλιτεχνική υπόλειμμα δεν είναι τόσο εύκολο να δώσει ως έναν αλγόριθμο, αλλά κάνει χρήση της σημασιολογικής παραμόρφωση – με τον τρόπο (αλλά χωρίς την πολυμάθεια και το λοφίο) της γνωστής Ιρλανδός ποιητής
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 4:58 pm
I thought only Arabic was allowed here
etominusipi
July 21, 2012 at 5:11 pm
είμαστε όλοι οι Έλληνες σήμερα.
όπως ακριβώς είμαστε όλοι الشعب الفلسطيني
etominusipi
July 21, 2012 at 5:02 pm
συν, τέλος, μια μικρή πρόσμιξη τυχαιότητα, στην πραγματικότητα μια υποτονική έκδοση από τα πολλά λάθη κάνω όταν πληκτρολογώ.
etominusipi
July 21, 2012 at 5:05 pm
(ή σχεδόν δίπλα)
Gilad Atzmon
July 21, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Yep it must be the colour, Soros doesn’t like red,,, i guess pink would be safer
etominusipi
July 21, 2012 at 3:01 pm
brilliant solution Ariadna! – worthy of the great detective Sherlock Holmes.
off-topic aspergers/OCD plea: how do you edit posted comments?
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 4:19 pm
I have not discovered yet and that, along with how to turn on the TV in my hotel room, may have to remain enigmas for me.
fool me once...
July 21, 2012 at 5:04 pm
“I have not discovered yet…how to turn on the TV in my hotel room,”
Well I’ve got a friend who used to work at that particular hotel and she knows how everything works there. Europeans tend to be a bit more active than US of A’ers, so you may find you have to get up off the couch and press a button that’s actually located on the TV itself, to get it fired up. Hope that helps.
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Let me first post the disclaimer that I believe implicitly everything one has from one’s friends.
BUT
No, there in no button in evidence on the body of the TV, only a hole into which I refuse to insert my finger for the same reason I refuse to insert my card in ATM machines here: fear of amputation and permanent loss. There is a remote–which I cleaned first with moist towelettes having seen horrible videos about what organic matter lurks on them invisible to the naked eye–but that does not work either.
Tell your friends thanks from me and ask them if there is anything new in Libya or Syria, but only of they are from there or have friends there.
fool me once...
July 21, 2012 at 7:04 pm
“I refuse to insert my card in ATM machines…”
ATM?, Ariadna Theokopoulos Money machines??? I get it, take take take, then give a little back, so that’s your grecian globe trotting game? EXPOSED!! the Greek Robina Hood, out of the labyrinth and on to the money mines of La Mancha.
http://images.wikia.com/ukcomics/images/3/32/Robinahood.jpg
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 8:51 pm
What globe trotting? Once a year I travel just a little bit and then I have to rely on cash I bring with me and the use of credit cards but cannot, dare not, will not insert my card into foreign and unknown ATM machines that for all I know may be machina dentata….
As for money mines, believe me they’re not here, and as soon as I reply “Estados Unidos” to the question “where are you from?” I get an earful. The Spaniards, unlike the Americans are not slumbering and they know who stole what and who wants war and why.
who_me
July 21, 2012 at 10:40 pm
“as soon as I reply “Estados Unidos” to the question “where are you from?” I get an earful.”
tell them you’re canadian, most people still have not caught on yet that canadians are as evil as americans (canadians are like azz – very, very sneaky about their zionism and fascist leanings).
fool me once...
July 22, 2012 at 12:04 am
My bad Ariadna, was just joshing along, albiet bumptiously, to the AT humour construct in my head, exploring the terrain and all that, going with the perceived funny flow and not realising the I was still paddling whilst high and dry – cheers for the heads up.
. Anyways, you’ll be getting yer togs on for a nite on the town, here’s a topical tune that always went down well on the site in the summertime (building site that is)
A peace offering, how’s about gently warming the batteries from the remote to stimulate a burst of the necessities to get it started, then locate the control panel flap on the box for manual channel changing. Worth a try.
Yeah, the Spaniards are well aware of who stole what and who wants war and why, it’s just that they don’t like being reminded about it my mate from Peru was telling me… shit I feel I’m going down that proverbial creek again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IQ0snWgef0&feature=related
fool me once...
July 22, 2012 at 1:19 am
My bad Ariadna, was just joshing along, albiet bumptiously, to the AT humour construct in my head, exploring the terrain and all that, going with the perceived funny flow and not realising the I was still paddling whilst high and dry – cheers for the heads up.
. Anyways, you’ll be getting yer dancing shoes on for a nite on the town, here’s a topical tune that always went down well on the site in the summertime (building site that is)
A peace offering, how’s about gently warming the batteries from the remote to stimulate a burst of the necessities to get it started, then locate the control panel flap on the box for manual channel changing. Worth a try.
Yeah, the Spaniards are well aware of who stole what and who wants war and why, it’s just that they don’t like being reminded about it my mate from Peru was telling me… oops I feel I’m going down that proverbial creek again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IQ0snWgef0&feature=related
fool me once...
July 21, 2012 at 4:50 pm
@etominusipi
“off-topic aspergers/OCD plea: how do you edit posted comments?”
I remember you asking before and Jonathon replied, but the er, feature? wasn’t up for long. Poor show if you ask me
Jonathon Blakeley Reply
July 19, 2012 at 5:37 pm
We could add that feature in to allow editing of comments.
.
Jonathon Blakeley Reply
July 19, 2012 at 6:26 pm
ok log back in comments should editable for registered users.
Roy Bard
July 21, 2012 at 5:00 pm
who_me Reply July 19, 2012 at 6:31 pm
it looks like one can edit other’s comments. i didn’t test it, but it’s probably not a good idea to let people edit other people’s comments.
fool me once...
July 21, 2012 at 5:14 pm
“but it’s probably not a good idea to let people edit other people’s comments.”
Ha ha ha yeah that’d be well funny! What do reckon the most popular edit would be?
.
“Yes you are correct (name). I was an ignorant fool to even think of disagreeing with you, forgive me, your most humble servant (name)”
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 9:30 am
I am not completely satisfied that the matter of Michael Ben-Ari has been throughly investigated and accurately reported.
The photo shows him ripping pages but from WHAT?
His statement refers to “this abomination” but the specification in parentheses (The New Testament) is added by the reporter, not uttered by Ben-Ari.
Since the Bible in question came from the US it is more than likely that it was a Scofield Bible. Ben-Ari rips it all to pieces.
Not that book destruction/burning is to be condoned under any circumstances but perhaps Ben-Ari’s fury is not an act for hate for Christianity but rather a passionate gesture of protest against the harm he perceives the falsified bible to have done, starting with the support of the US for the creation of the state of Israel before the advent of the Messiah. Seen this way, his gesture is a pious act of contrition.
Or maybe not…
etominusipi
July 21, 2012 at 4:30 pm
ig, moy gie
vyr an ezekkent xonxeit!! gravo!!!
τὸ βδέλυγμα τῆς ἐρημώσεως.
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 4:55 pm
It’s Greek to me
who_me
July 21, 2012 at 5:09 pm
“It’s Greek to me”
you sure? i’ve seen the 3rd figure in the 3rd line of etominusipi’s post, β, used in deutsch to represent the sound of 2 s’s.
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 6:05 pm
It was meant to be a double joke but apparently not a great one…
who_me
July 21, 2012 at 6:18 pm
i know, so was my post.
etominusipi
July 22, 2012 at 12:00 pm
sehr scharfe Beobachtungsgabe, who_me! sollten Sie ernsthaft erwägen, um deutscher Staatsbürger zu werden. Wir brauchen alle Menschen mit hoher Intelligenz und der Fähigkeit, in weniger expliziten Bezug zu kommunizieren.
etominusipi
July 22, 2012 at 4:25 pm
beware of geeks baring grifts!
χθες, συνειδητοποίησα κάτι. Πραγματικά κάτι το προφανές. στερείται το οξυγόνο της αλήθειας και έντιμη έρευνα, τα κύρια μέσα μαζικής ενημέρωσης είναι καταδικασμένη.
Εδώ (@deLiberation), είναι ένας μικρός τομέας της νέας τέταρτης ακινήτων
εδώ είναι ένα δενδρύλλιο στο μαγικό δάσος του συνειδητού σύμπαντος.
τώρα η φράκταλ ανακαλυφθεί, και επειδή έχουμε νοημοσύνη και τις καρδιές μας είναι αλήθεια, μπορούμε να εφαρμόσουμε αυτή την επίγνωση να επεκτείνει την κατανόησή μας για τους εαυτούς μας ως ένα μικρόκοσμο, και επίσης να βλέπουμε τους εαυτούς μας ως ένα μακρόκοσμο.
χρησιμοποιήσω τη γλώσσα της ανακάλυψης και όχι εφεύρεση, γιατί σε αυτά τα θέματα ακολουθώ Πυθαγόρας -
σημειογραφία είναι η εφεύρεση, και αυτό είναι ένα θαυμάσιο δώρο.
το φόντο μαθηματική πραγματικότητα είναι πιο υπέροχο.
αλλά η πραγματική μαγεία – η δημιουργία ενός υλικού σύμπαντος, σύμφωνα με μαθηματική αλήθεια. Αυτή είναι η βλάστηση των σπόρων , που είναι γνωστή στα μαθηματικά ως μηδέν. (η λογική θεμελίωση των σύγχρονων μαθηματικών είναι η παράδοξη ιδέα του κενού συνόλου).
στην πολυμορφία είμαστε μια ενότητα, κάθε φωτιά ή φλόγα είναι η ίδια στην ουσία. οργανικής ζωής είναι, σε ένα επίπεδο ανάλυσης, η διαδικασία της καύσης – μια αργή πυρκαγιά.
fool me once...
July 21, 2012 at 6:23 pm
etominusipi@
Sorry to read that your condition is preventing you from communicating in the way you wish to. Try not to fret, as you know it will pass. If it is any succour to you, I’d like to say typos or no typos, your posts are super stimulating and have introduced me and others to new ways of thinking about the topics in hand. As the old maxim goes “If they’re word perfect, then they’re suspekt.” Don’t be hard on yersen, it’ll pass
etominusipi
July 22, 2012 at 12:05 pm
thank you for that very kind message fool_me_once. by a curious synchronicity just as i had read it the edit buttonb suddenly became visible! now i am happy. i agree not all typos need correcting, but sometimes the meaning can be reversed or scrambled and that is painful. somje of the problems with my posts derived from my habit of using punctuation marks which are interpreted as hypertext instructions.
have a good day all! it’s lovely anf warm in Bingley today. a pleasant warmth, with a faint sense of moisture rising from earth well-sodden by recent rains.
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 6:11 pm
In the phtotomontage at the top, Abounimah appears to be tugging at his ear.
Way back when Carol Burnett was the queen of TV comedy, she used this gesture at the end of each of her shows to say “Hello, I love you.”
Could Abounimah be giving Gilad VERY mixed messages? Could it all be unrequitted emotion dregs on his part?J
ust sayin’
Gilad Atzmon
July 21, 2012 at 6:51 pm
I do believe that he actually loves me a lot,almost as much as i hate myself,, the same applies to Greesntein, we are dealing with a cognitive dissonance this is why an so forgiving
who_me
July 21, 2012 at 7:19 pm
unrequited love, no doubt.
as in what this classic tune is about:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6062706777063233501&ei=cLt7S7CjB4ygqQPP-tyRBw&q
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 21, 2012 at 7:46 pm
Abounimah’s song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ccfM08bp9g&feature=fvwrel
(I like Billy Holliday’s version but he feels this is more appropriate for him)
etominusipi
July 22, 2012 at 2:51 pm
great version – some hold Bunny Berigan’s to be even finer…
my only worry is that the song contains an oblique reference to smoking xannabith (‘tea‘), which might be misinterpreted by some young people as an endorsement of a barbaric practice (according to Herodotus indulged in particularly by the Scythians at their funeral ceremonies).
re Albuminah i think you have hit the nail squarely on the head. disavow cries out to be interpreted as purge your politically incorrect erotic attraction for. i believe similar motives amongst the sexually repressed homoerotic Spanish conquistadores led to horrific slaughters of the indigenous male population of ‘Latin’ America. where men slept together in one large hut, this was taken to imply an orgy of group gay carnality every time the sun went down. highly displeasing to g_d.
etominusipi
July 22, 2012 at 3:15 pm
technically speaking, if A hates himself, then any B not indifferent to A can only both love and hate A at the same time. if B loves himself this double feeling for A creates a further cognitive dissonance which can only be resolved by B also hating himself.
thus there are four stable group solutions:
(a) everybody loves themselves and loves everybody else.
(b) everyone hates themselves and hates everyone else
(c) everybody both loves and hates themselves, and both loves and hates everybody else.
(d) total indifference all round
moving one level up the hierarchy we may look at similar relations between groups.
the (c) solution seems to offer the best oversimplified global model of social cohesion in the current conjuncture.
who_me
July 22, 2012 at 9:05 am
http://rt.com/usa/news/us-drops-biggest-human-trafficking-case-771/
US drops biggest-ever human trafficking case amid evidence doubts
obviously they had no evidence, 3 of the company top execs had plead guilty. :p
but:
“Among the accused was the CEO of the company, Mordechai Orian.”
ah, that explains it. god intervened again.
etominusipi
July 22, 2012 at 2:28 pm
g_d, actually.
when written in gebrew the word you typed,(גוד), gives 364, i.e. the number of days in a year whose quarters consist of exactly 13 weeks of 7 days each. the 137 thus encrypted is the number, for example, of QaBaLaH, in the sense that Q~100, B~2, L~30,H~5, and 100+2+30+5=137. this quantity appears to have been utilized by the Great Architect in designing the laws of physics for our universe (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine_structure_constant). the fact that the value of this fundamental constant is not a whole number demonstrates the kind of absolute limitation even Omnipotence must work within for creative purposes. it is considered impolite to refer to this ‘blemish on omnipotence’ by writing the full word god(m.i.b.f.f.t.i.)