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Blinded by the obvious

THERE are some types of news which are not news at all.

The pictures of entirely normal weather for the time of year, for example – lambs in spring, sunbathers in summer, and today a house covered in creeper that’s (gosh) changing colour, just like it did last year.

Then there’s the revelation that the wife of the teacher who ran off to Bordeaux with a child has dumped him. Perhaps some of us were wondering what she’d do but there can’t have been many who’d expect her to be thrilled. Finding out she’s chucked his stuff in the street is not news so much as an entirely-predictable annotation to the text.

And let’s not forget the ‘shock’ that Liberace was gay, something which millions claimed to have been inexplicably unaware of and is a prime example of how people can be blinded by the obvious.

And today there’s something new for us to get our heads around which frankly pretty much everyone already realised: Jimmy Savile was best avoided.

Perhaps there was one person out there who knew only of his charity marathons and jangly jewellery who still had Sir Jimmy at the top of their dream babysitter list.

One person so naive they could see a man who made a habit of plying strange children with gifts, seeking out the places children would be found, and puffing cigar smoke in their faces, and think that it was all perfectly fine.

But aside from Esther Rantzen, is anyone that surprised to find out Jimmy Savile OBE was pretty vile when he thought no-one was looking? Clue was in the name, if you looked.

But then being a little peculiar doesn’t necessarily equate with child abuse, or every eccentric egomaniac with unfortunate taste in leisurewear would be locked up on the nonce’s wing.

So what would equate with child abuse?

Well, being friends for 25 years with Jonathan King, a man who was found guilty of abusing five boys aged 14 to 16 in the 1980s and whose defence in court included claiming it was unfair that it was illegal.

(A man later invited to give evidence to the Leveson Inquiry and moan about how he was abused by the Press, thereby turning a reasonable investigation that had merely been badly-executed into a disgusting farce, but that’s a different diatribe).

Defending Gary Glitter for “doing nothing wrong” in downloading 4,000 child porn images “of the worst possible type” involving children aged from two to 10, and what’s more saying so a year after he was deported from Vietnam for sexual abuse of girls aged 10 and 11.

Or maybe the fact being being subject of allegations made to police in 2007, or a two-month Newsnight investigation which was spiked in part because it clashed with a Jimmy Savile tribute show.

Perhaps the reports in 2008 linking him to Jersey children’s home Haut de la Garenne, then being investigated by police over historic allegations of child abuse and which has since led to convictions of a former member of staff. Not that a report ‘linking’ someone is proof of anything; but that Jimmy at first denied ever having been there despite a picture of him playing on the lawn.

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If you look at all those things with a critical eye and an inquiring mind, the fact a man has hung around pubescent and pre-pubescent children his entire adult life starts to take on a different tone.

In fact once you take all that into consideration the fact Jimmy Savile offered relationship advice to Prince Andrew and got Frank Bruno to shake hands with the Yorkshire Ripper is frankly small beer, even if Randy Andy is friends with a paedophile and not many people take tea at Broadmoor.

So it’s not that much of a surprise to know several women have come forward to say they were groomed and attacked by Savile from the age of 12 having been selected by him from audiences at children’s TV shows, discos and a home for emotionally damaged young girls.

Because the allegations have been made a year after his death there are plenty of people who will say they’re made up. Maybe, but the accounts have too many consistencies to be entirely fictional.

So why say it now? There are three reasons to expose child abuse – to bring the perpetrator to justice, to stop him doing it again, and to give the victims a say.

As Savile is cold in the ground the first two are moot points and as for the third, well, that’s up to them. If saying it makes them feel better, if it exposes anyone else who knew and did nothing, or if perhaps it tells a child today that what is being done to them is also abuse, then it deserves shouting about.

But what will only be whispered is that the real reason Jimmy Savile never faced these allegations when he was alive is because we didn’t want him to.

The girls who say he attacked them, the television companies which employed him, the producers who saw goings-on in dressing rooms, the journalists who heard rumours but didn’t put enough effort into substantiating them, and yes you too, the audiences and fans who didn’t want to look at him too carefully and even now are thinking it’s not true on the grounds you used to like him – there was, in every instance, no appetite for finding out more.

We all liked him as he was – the eccentric man in a tracksuit with the funny catchphrases who made children’s dreams come true.

Every single one of us ignored the obvious clues because it suited us, and the chances are that once the documentary is aired we’ll excuse him again or presume the worst of those girls telling their story, for the same reason.

Because if we look too closely at him, we have to look at ourselves too.

And ask why we didn’t realise that some children have very bad dreams indeed.

Jimmy Savile Frank Brun And Peter Sutcliffe

Peter Sutcliffe (Serial Killer & Psychopath)/Jimmy Savile OBE, / Frank Bruno (Boxer)

Nothing good ever came of yellow spectacles.

39 Responses to Blinded by the obvious

  1. fool me once... October 2, 2012 at 10:13 pm #

    Now then now then, fleetstreetfox , next you’ll be telling us there’s a scent on this comment regarding Jimmy Savile’s good friend;
    “Peter Jaconelli we all know about the great work he did with the kids of scarborough don`t we?”
    http://www.knowhere.co.uk/Scarborough/North-Yorkshire/Northern-England/info/celebs
    Jaconelli was Mayor, Councillor, and Honorary Alderman of Scarborough. He was a very successful ice cream magnate and worked at his ice cream parlour in the seaside resort of Scarborough.
    .
    Do you have any more info on the story about JS going to israel to “help” with talks between Sadat and Begin?
    And
    “Savile claimed during an interview with The Guardian newspaper’s Simon Hattenstone that he told Professor Katzir: ‘I’m very disappointed because you’ve all forgotten how to be Jewish and that’s why everyone is taking you to the cleaners … You won the Six Day War, you took all that land, you gave it all back, including the only oil well in the area, and now you’re paying the Egyptians for the oil you already had.”
    http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/jimmy-savile-fixed-it-for-israel.html?m=1
    This link gives some background on Jimmy Savile’s connection with israel.
    http://www.jewishtelegraph.com/savile_2.html
    .

  2. Jonathon Blakeley October 2, 2012 at 10:18 pm #

    1. Jonathan King classes veteran TV presenter Jimmy Savile as one of his closest friends – they have known each other for 25 years. Savile once said of him: “He’s a sabra. A sabra is an Israeli fruit that’s prickly on the outside and all soft and lovely inside. That’s Jonathan King.”
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/nov/24/6

    2. Jim fixed it for Israel and told them they were too soft on the arabs.
    —————————-

    He recalled further: “When the president came to me, he asked how I was enjoying my visit to Israel.

    “I said I was very disappointed: the Israelis had won the Six Day War but they had given back all the land, including the only oil well in the region, and were now paying the Egyptians more for oil than if they had bought it from Saudi Arabia. “I said: ‘You have forgotten to be Jewish’. He said: ‘Would you like to tell my cabinet that?’

    “Next morning, I went to the Knesset and they interrupted a cabinet meeting and I told them the same as I had told him.”

    http://www.jewishtelegraph.com/savile.html

    • fool me once... October 3, 2012 at 1:13 pm #

      @JB
      “Jonathan King classes veteran TV presenter Jimmy Savile as one of his closest friends…”
      Some tittle-tattle from the book “The Heir Apparent” page 152;
      The nine hundred undergraduates at Trinity could easily be “typed” by Charles (Prince) from his experience of boys at Gordonstoun and Timbertop…One celebrity there was Jonathan King, who had written a “pop” success not without a bearing on the era of Prince Charles. It was called “Everyone’s Gone To The Moon”…
      .
      Savile is bottom left at the beginning;
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73ks2TPPyho

  3. Jonathon Blakeley October 2, 2012 at 10:21 pm #

    fool me … we are crossing paths cool.

  4. who_me October 3, 2012 at 3:27 am #

    well, zionists tend to have other nasty habits…

    • who_me October 3, 2012 at 4:19 am #

      “THERE are some types of news which are not news at all.”

      the whole of the jewish owned and run western news media falls into that category of “not news at all”. when they are not promoting some judeo-supremacist/zionazi or corporate fascist propaganda or business, they cover non-events and non-issues. there is no substance at all to this disgusting crap. all of this fakery to keep the plebes buying shite, loving their slavery and to hide the repellant nature of the rubbish that rules the west and their vast corruption and criminality.

      • fool me once... October 3, 2012 at 12:39 pm #

        @who_me
        “there is no substance at all to this disgusting crap.”
        Apologies if I’ve interpreted your comment wrong.
        If these allegations about this Sir James Savile’s nefarious activities are proven I would hope they will lead to serious ramifications for the establishment as regards the sexual abuse of children by those in power.
        In the eyes of the general public Savile was an eccentric working class hero who raised over 40 million for charity.
        You mentioned the “jewish owned and run western news media”, well the two media people who are most prominent in the discourse about this case are Esther Rantzen and Louis Theroux – both jewish journalists.(see docu link above)
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Rantzen
        Esther Rantzen founder of Childline 1986, says she knew of the rumours about Savile. Yet felt somehow it was OK to pose for publicity photographs with Savile in 1988. So much for investigative journalism, eh Esther?
        http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1352826.ece/ALTERNATES/s338b/Esther+Rantzen+and+Jimmy+Savile,+1988
        Savile was a catholic who was knighted by the Queen and in same year he was honoured with a Papal knighthood making him a Knight Commander of Saint Gregory the Great (KCSG), also he was a Knight of Malta. The jewish connection is growing by the day.
        To sum up, he had POWER and PROTECTION to do as he pleased with any child (or corpse) that crossed his path.

        • fool me once... October 3, 2012 at 4:56 pm #

          Ooop! The comment above I made saying that the journalist Louis Theroux is jewish, is incorrect. I made that statement based on memory and a misunderstanding of what he said during one of his documentaries in 2003 called “Louis Theroux and the Nazi’s”.
          The relevant clip is at 5.40mins – 6.40mins;
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0k3_yFO76s

        • who_me October 3, 2012 at 6:02 pm #

          fmo

          “Apologies if I’ve interpreted your comment wrong.”

          i’m not sure how you interpreted it. :)

          • fool me once... October 5, 2012 at 12:51 am #

            “i’m not sure how you interpreted it. :)
            Ha ha, I did misunderstand your comment :D . I read it as though you were saying the “disgusting crap” Savile story “had no substance”.
            Indeed it has and there’s a JP BBC stink all over it.
            It would be interesting to explore this more on a new thread as JB suggested. If that’s not possible I’ll post here instead, although I’m in agreement with DH about fsf.

          • who_me October 5, 2012 at 2:17 am #

            yeah, my “disgusting crap” comment was directed at the msm in general, not this particular piece, which i’m not familiar enough with the subject to really judge on it’s accuracy. till i read the piece and then the comments, i had not heard of savile before.

        • Jonathon Blakeley October 3, 2012 at 7:45 pm #

          I think it is incredible of Esther Rantzen to say they colluded and turned a blind eye to Jimmy Saville and his kiddy fiddling, yet at the same time she is running Childline.

          You could not make this shit up.

  5. who_me October 3, 2012 at 6:08 am #

    related:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN9GeISbfEw

    • Jonathon Blakeley October 3, 2012 at 7:48 pm #

      frightening< brilliant But horrible.
      Somethings are best forgotten *shrugs*. We dont need demons and devils humans do fine on their own.

      • who_me October 4, 2012 at 1:38 am #

        the singer also is the lyrics writer in the group. she was molested as a child by her father. her lyrics in many of their songs show the damage this did to her life and how it affected the way she thinks and feels. their work can be pretty grim, and one can see how the trauma of her childhood shaped her adulthood in many very negative ways.

        so far i’ve lived with two women that i know were abused when they were young. both women had serious emotional problems as a result of this abuse that has lasted all their lives. the shite don’t go away with time, it stays with them all their lives and seriously hampers their ability to connect with other people.

        people like this savile have no idea of the damage they do. they are incapable of feeling anything beyond basic urges and the emotions that stem from them. concepts like compassion and caring about what happens to others are completely alien to them. all they care about is their own wants.

        it’s no surprise there is a heavy zionist/jp element to all this. zionism and jp are based upon the same sort of dehumanised way of selfishly engaging with other people. they are just there to serve one, is the attitude. what one does to them, and how it will affect their lives is inconsequential.

  6. David Holden October 3, 2012 at 10:21 am #

    dear fleetstreetfox,

    i don’t know if you will have access to the comments on this post, or whether you have yet learned anything about the meaning of the term NFE – the New Fourth Estate.

    the NFE paradigm is quite different from that of the MSM. that is the reason for its existence. the MSM is now rotten to the core, and there is a pressing need for journalism which comes from the human heart, rather than from an ugly and self-serving conspiracy between the head and the wallet.

    you say you write for the MSM (Moronic Subservient Media). well, it’s true many people need day jobs. but imao to earn your crust emptying dustbins would be more honorable than being paid by crooks to peddle lies and tripe to the masses.

    leaving aside the question of how you manage to sleep at night, may i suggest that if you wish to moonlight on the NFE you should first attempt to free your prose style of some of the dirty habits that are second-nature to MSM zombie-journalists.

    your writing here is saturated by a stylistic mannerism i have always found both insidious and repulsive. if it be classed as rhetoric, then one should precede the substantive rhetoric with the attributive diabolical. that is not to suggest you are a satanist – just an ambitious fool blinded by the dazzle of kazzer gold.

    THE FALLACY OF PERSUASIVE INCLUSIVITY

    this is a mendacious technique of using the first person plural (FPP when expressing a value-judgement. i will not labor the point, but give an objective statistical assessment:

    your piece has the (remarkably well-rewarded in the MSM) statutary 1000 words. of these, some 4.5 per cent are first person plurals:

    we 15

    us 25

    our 6

    although there are a few contexts where this extraordinary FPP incidence rate can be appropriate (e.g. in policy documents) no-one writing like this on matters of public interest deserves serious attention.

    this naturally leads to the question of your agenda.

    why peddle this tripe here?

    • fool me once... October 3, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

      @DH
      Agreed.
      “why peddle this tripe here?”
      Hopefully your well written critique will give fsf’s some food for thought as “no-one writing like this on matters of public interest deserves serious attention.”
      That said I hope my numerous comments on the individual in question are not perceived as petty muck-raking. If they are then I would gladly take any criticism and advice to improve my comments.
      btw Did you notice on the link you posted that the DailyFail remuneration was…£666 :D “if the cap fits”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOMMWeExwh4&feature=related

    • Jonathon Blakeley October 3, 2012 at 9:12 pm #

      @David Holden
      Its great that you have such an eye for detail, you are like the Un-official Rhetoric Monitor URM. I see you have a point though.

  7. David Holden October 3, 2012 at 4:52 pm #

    no the issue is crucial, it’s only the framing by fsf that is unhelpful. i came across the suggestion a while ago that, aside from his own proclivities, EloBoizAnGals was a hi-lev procurer for the great and good. having relayed this suspicion to a couple of friends a few weeks ago, it was not surprising to see his mug on the tabloid front pages.

    a brief discussion of one similar case in the USA

    however, the question remains as to the motives for and and timing of any particular prosecution or (as in Savile’s case – posthumous outing.

    fsf comes out with this rubbish:

    We all liked him as he was – i never liked him. he gave me the creeps.

    Every single one of us ignored the obvious clues because it suited us… – really?

    if we look too closely at him, we have to look at ourselves too. – who could gainsay the humanity and compassion of these marvellous words?

    etc. etc.

    here is more detailed look at this unsavoury theme

    • David Holden October 3, 2012 at 5:06 pm #

      from that website>

      The power of the Dutroux affair and its X-Dossiers is that it will enable anyone to see how a state can be controlled and undermined by a cabal that is able to place its “members” in crucial positions in any investigation that might lead to its own exposure.

      • Jonathon Blakeley October 3, 2012 at 8:43 pm #

        I think you are correct though David in looking beyond Jimmy Saville to the other notable examples such as the Belgium cases.

    • Jonathon Blakeley October 3, 2012 at 10:36 pm #

      Dave you studied Psychology… may i suggest that you start a new thread on savile and co.

      • fool me once... October 5, 2012 at 12:59 am #

        @DH
        “may i suggest that you start a new thread on savile and co.”
        Yes, that would be appreciated.

    • fool me once... October 5, 2012 at 1:15 am #

      @DH
      The Dutroux link you posted above is very heavy reading :( but puts into perspective the nature of Savile’s depravity for any one having doubts about the validity of sexual abuse by those in positions of power.

  8. Jonathon Blakeley October 3, 2012 at 7:58 pm #

    from @hugorifkind

    [Savile] writes of an incident at the Mecca Locarno ballroom in Leeds, where he worked as a DJ during the 1950s, when a female police officer came in with a photograph of “an attractive girl who had run away from a remand home”.

    Savile writes: “‘Ah,’ says I all serious, ‘if she comes in I’ll bring her back tomorrow but I’ll keep her all night first as my reward’.” He then writes that the girl did go into the club and “agreed that I hand her over if she could stay at the dance, [and] come home with me”. He wrote that he did then hand her over to the “lady of the law…[who] was dissuaded from bringing charges against me by her colleagues, for it was well known that were I to go I would probably take half the station with me”.

    http://timesopinion.tumblr.com/post/32804536645/jimmy-saviles-affections-laid-bare-by-jimmy-savile

  9. Jonathon Blakeley October 3, 2012 at 8:37 pm #

    I always thought Jimmy Savile was creepy psychopath. But it is why he was protected and Dutroux. There is a connection I guess between Fred West and Jimmy Saville. Fred West was doing the same as Dutroux, but Fred threatened to reveal his powerful backers and mysteriously died the next day, hung in his cell.

    FSF is just a guest post, I thought it was quite amusing in places, I don’t agree with all of it but it make some fairly strong points. The conclusion that we all willfully ignored, i have my doubts about that.

    I always thought Jimmy Saville was creepy psychopath.

    THis is a very big story but it is not about Jimmy Savile, that is only the beginning of this thread.

    What connects Jimmy Savile to Fred West to Thomas Hamilton(Dunblane Massacre)?

    • David Holden October 3, 2012 at 9:16 pm #

      what is a guest post? this fsf wishes to remain anonymous and yet announces it can be read in the MSM on fridays or whenever.

      Because the allegations have been made a year after his death there are plenty of people who will say they’re made up. Maybe,..

      And let’s not forget the ‘shock’ that Liberace was gay… – good Lord no, forget anything but that. the let’s is another creepy FPP not included in my count.

      Not that a report ‘linking’ someone is proof of anything…

      (the NOT THAT… rhetorical device

      allegations made to police in 2007…

      so what has flestreetfox written about that then, until it’s suddenly declared safe to stick your head above the parapet?

      i may be thought uncharitable, but i don’t see anything of any merit whatsoever in this piece, and i suspect (in my usually unfounded way) that its author is just another wannabee disinfo agent charged with the task of cognitively infiltrating deLib.

    • fool me once... October 3, 2012 at 9:22 pm #

      “What connects Jimmy Savile to Fred West to Thomas Hamilton(Dunblane Massacre)?” and Peter Sutcliffe.
      Not only was Jimmy Savile a regular visitor and acquaintance of Peter Sutcliffe the Yorkshire Ripper at Broadmoor Hospital a high-security psychiatric hospital, but Saviles home was mentioned by Sutcliffe at his trial in 1981;
      “Mr Sutcliffe also told police he left the murder scene after he heard voices, but couldn’t tell where
      they came from. He also heard a car being driven away from the entrance to a house. Later he found
      out that the house was where disc jockey Jimmy Savile lived.”
      execulink.com/~kbrannen/trialall.pdf

      • Jonathon Blakeley October 3, 2012 at 9:44 pm #

        Wow, amazing… I heard from a friend that Fred West organized many of the parties. My friend witnessed a “House of Horrors Party”

  10. Jonathon Blakeley October 3, 2012 at 9:32 pm #

    There is a network, of people who a get a kick off human trafficking.

  11. Jonathon Blakeley October 5, 2012 at 6:26 pm #

  12. fool me once... October 5, 2012 at 10:58 pm #

    Kaiser Report on Jersey. Interview with Leah McGrath Goodman
    starts at 12.40mins;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJMscjluVwM

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