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Barack Obama: Drug Warrior; Class Warrior

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  1. Ariadna Theokopoulos May 21, 2012 at 5:07 pm #

    Beyond hypocrisy is correct, but it is not only an issue of social class, it is also racism, evident in the way crack cocaine (smoked mostly by blacks) vs “blow” is dealt with, evident in all the statistics. Good work, Obama: you are now in the 1% an also a racist against blacks.

    The racially disproportionate drug arrests result from the police department’s emphasis on the outdoor drug market in the racially diverse downtown area of the city, its lack of attention to other outdoor markets that are predominantly white, and its emphasis on crack. Three-quarters of the drug arrests were crack-related even though only an estimated one-third of the city’s drug transactions involved crack.[18] Whites constitute the majority of those who deliver methamphetamine, ecstasy, powder cocaine, and heroin in Seattle; blacks are the majority of those who deliver crack. Not surprisingly then, seventy-nine percent of those arrested on crack charges were black.[19] The researchers could not find a “racially neutral” explanation for the police prioritization of the downtown drug markets and crack. The focus on crack offenders, for example, did not appear to be a function of the frequency of crack transactions compared to other drugs, public safety or public health concerns, crime rates, or citizen complaints.

    • Sheldon Richman May 21, 2012 at 7:05 pm #

      As I said on Facebook: Isn’t it revealing that what’s most contemptible about Obama are things conservatives have no problem with?

  2. Ariadna Theokopoulos May 21, 2012 at 5:12 pm #

    The rather long 2nd paragraph should have been in quotes–it is excerpted from the report in the link below it.

  3. who_me May 21, 2012 at 8:18 pm #

    having a popular set of items contraband serves many useful purposes.

    first, there is the money. the price goes way up. there is also the creations of many new sources of profit in all the supporting fields. Like banking, military/law enforcement/prison industries, intelligence services, etc.

    second, it’s more easy to maintain a monopoly of the items.

    third, it’s very useful for distracting those members of society who are less conformist and pose a potential threat to the power structure. it keeps them busy pursuing harmless activities rather than fomenting rebellion.

    4th, it’s also useful for keeping whole segments of society down and out of the power loop. it keeps them anesthetized, docile and provides some of them a means of income to make up for the lack of social net support.

    5th, it provides a ready pool of unsavoury criminal elements who can be used for all sorts of other useful nefarious activities, such as death squads, for example. another example is illegal drug networks provide access for outside terrorist operatives. this is used in china, where the heroin network provides access for western terrorist operations. same in russia and central asia, latin america (where cocaine provides the raw material), same just about everywhere, more or less.

    6th, it gives the state (IE: the polygarchy) the excuse they need in “representational” governments to implement a police state structure.

    7th, it provides access to places where the power structure has little real influence over. useful for spying and creating destabilisation, so the power structure can get influence there. example here is the old ussr, where the western polygarchs had little influence and spying was touch and go. the jewish members of networks of black marketeers there proved to be very useful for israeli intelligence gathering (this was the main source, in fact, for western intelligence), and later, those same black marketeers, when provided with substantial monetary and other logistical support, through israeli connected sources, gave the western polygarchy its toehold into the russian power structure. those black marketeers are now many of the oligarchs there one hears about. their loyal or bribed underlings run a substantial amount of the government and businesses there.

    there’s more i missed here, but hey? what’s not to like about it?

  4. Jonathon Blakeley May 21, 2012 at 8:42 pm #

    Lethal Doses of Drugs.

    a 100-pound woman or man who consumed 9-10 standard drinks, respectively, in less than an hour would be in the LD:50 range.

    Nicotine 30–60 mg (0.5-1.0 mg/kg) can be a lethal dosage for adult humans

    Some doctors estimate that 1.2 grams of cocaine, when used orally, and 750-800 milligrams, when used intravenously or by inhaling, is fatal. It is unknown how much cocaine is fatal when sniffed. (Source: Cocaine Vraagbaak, Federatie van Instellingen voor Alcohol en Drugs, 1986).

    Depending on purity and the user, a lethal dose of heroin may range from 200 to 500mg, but hardened addicts have survived doses of 1800mg and over.
    However, with street heroin there is no absolutely certain “safe dosage”. It depends on tolerance, amount and purity taken.

    According to which US Government authority you want to believe, the lethal dose of marijuana is either about one-third your body weight, or about 1,500 pounds, consumed all at once.

    In summary, enormous doses of Delta 9 THC, All THC and concentrated marihuana extract ingested by mouth were unable to produce death or organ pathology in large mammals but did produce fatalities in smaller rodents due to profound central nervous system depression.

    The non-fatal consumption of 3000 mg/kg A THC by the dog and monkey would be comparable to a 154-pound human eating approximately 46 pounds (21 kilograms) of 1%-marihuana or 10 pounds of 5% hashish at one time. In addition, 92 mg/kg THC intravenously produced no fatalities in monkeys. These doses would be comparable to a 154-pound human smoking at one time almost three pounds (1.28 kg) of 1%-marihuana or 250,000 times the usual smoked dose and over a million times the minimal effective dose assuming 50% destruction of the THC by smoking.

    • who_me May 21, 2012 at 10:05 pm #

      Jonathon Blakeley

      “the lethal dose of marijuana is either about one-third your body weight, or about 1,500 pounds”

      i may be a bit overweight, but i can assure you that 1500 lbs. is not 1/3 of my body weight. πŸ™‚

      • fool me once... May 21, 2012 at 10:33 pm #

        who_me Bit of sychronicity going on. Was going to say “That sounds about right!” with a picture of tubby Americans, but I re-read the first paragraph a few times and realised it was time to put the pipe down πŸ˜‰

        • fool me once... May 21, 2012 at 10:40 pm #

          Posted you a vid on the Nutters article. This is the same guy on topic.

          • Jonathon Blakeley May 21, 2012 at 11:03 pm #

            Doug Stanhope is ace, Why is it Comedians are the ones who speak the truth more than anyone else in our society.

            I think its supposed to 150lbs.

            154-pound human eating approximately 46 pounds (21 kilograms) of 1%-marihuana or 10 pounds of 5% hashish at one time.

          • fool me once... May 21, 2012 at 11:34 pm #

            JB “I think its supposed to be 150lbs.”
            Nah, I think the original wording is correct. It’s the “either or” that’s twistin’ yer melon. πŸ˜‰
            3 x 150lbs = 450lbs = 32 stone approx.

          • Jonathon Blakeley May 21, 2012 at 11:44 pm #

            Well it is something to aim for anyway.. πŸ™‚

          • who_me May 21, 2012 at 11:46 pm #

            fool me once…

            stanhope is great. i’ve never heard of him before – thanks. what’s the nutter thread?

            Jonathon Blakeley

            “Why is it Comedians are the ones who speak the truth more than anyone else in our society.”

            noticed that too.

          • fool me once... May 22, 2012 at 7:55 am #

            Chosen Ones or Supremacist Nutters, You Decide?

          • who_me May 22, 2012 at 6:18 pm #

            got it – thanks.

  5. Jonathon Blakeley May 21, 2012 at 11:12 pm #

    At present it is estimated that marijuana’s LD-50 is around 1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means in order to induce death, a smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette.

  6. who_me May 21, 2012 at 11:56 pm #

    “154-pound human eating approximately 46 pounds (21 kilograms) of 1%-marihuana or 10 pounds of 5% hashish at one time.”

    towards the end of my first childhood, a friend mentioned he heard that one could get high if they ate a bunch of nutmeg. we decided to test it. got a can of nutmeg and poured the contents with some milk into a blender and whipped it up. split the volume so produced into a couple of glasses and drank it down. we waited at least an hour, but nothing happened.

    around the same time, the same friend got it into his head to try snorting weed. that time i didn’t join in the experiment, but acted as the “control”.;) he poured a bit out onto that bit of skin between the index finger and the thumb and was about to raise his hand to his nose when i mentioned something i noticed:

    “you got a seed in there, and a couple of small stems, too… πŸ˜€

  7. Ariadna Theokopoulos May 22, 2012 at 2:32 am #

    Orange County?!
    Wow, republicans have loosened up some.. this is a generous trickle down

    • who_me May 22, 2012 at 3:02 am #

      nah, it’s a protest. you’ve heard of the event called the boston tea party? this is the la tea party. the local california marijuana growers have been facing fed crack downs by the fed’s to remove the competition for the fed’s own marijuana being imported into california. apparently some local growers got wind of the itinerary of a fed shipment coming in and went out and met them on the high seas. the growers over powered the crew, who were probably stoned, and then dumped the shipment into the sea and sent the importing vessel scurrying off back to where it came from.