Assange with Moazzem Begg and Asim Qureshi
by the Editor
Tuesday, May 15th, 2012
Julian Assange’s The World Tomorrow
Assange, whose own freedom has been curtailed for over 500 days now, interviews Moazzem Begg and Asim Qureshi from Cage Prisoners.
As the ruling on his own extradition draws nearer, Assange explores torture, detention without trial at Guantanamo and the extra-judicial killings which have become a hallmark of the Obama administration.
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Jonathon Blakeley
May 15, 2012 at 8:09 pm
Hugely dis-appointing and boring. Despite massive hype Julian Assange just have not delivered the shock and controversy that his progam promised.
He even promulgates the standard 9/11 explanation.
*sighs*
Jay Knott
May 17, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Jonathon – I’m not sure you’ve completely mastered the circular reasoning needed to be a card carrying member of the 9/11 conspiracy faith.
“He even promulgates the standard 9/11 explanation. *sighs*”
Surely you could put it a little more strongly than that. Since the ‘standard explanation’ is OBVIOUSLY false, and Julian Assange is no fool, one should be suspicious of his intentions, non?
Jonathon Blakeley
May 17, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Moazzem Begg questioned the standard narrative of 9/11, Assange did not even pick up on that. Pretty rubbish interviewer.
Somoe
May 15, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Well, from what i can make out – the script is as follows:
Julian invites a collection of people considered by many to be extremists or controversial, (mainly because of the hype and smears of the zionist controlled media); cozies up to them with the ‘we’re all so persecuted’ – ‘my enemy’s enemy is my friend’ routine and then proceeds to ask them the most stupid questions that are designed to perpetuate the lies and control the discourse.
I mean, who comes up with the questions? Why no questions that challenge the zionist-controlled media story?
Such as:
Given it was such a pivotal event in your life,
who do you believe orchestrated 9/11/01?
Did you ever believe it was Islamic extremists?
It appears that there’s an effort to target and eliminate Muslims throughout the world, who do you think is behind this concerted effort to demonise muslims?
Why?
In addition, there was the usual attempt to feed the western paranoia about ‘Shariah Law’ and the possibility of an ‘Islamic super-state’taking away all those marvelous freedoms we have. Trying to make it appear oppressive and something that should be avoided, when there are very positive aspects to Sharia Law that western populations could benefit from. Islam has many positive social effects, it is International Zionism and the secret societies that govern world events that the populace should abhor(and most do, if they are aware).
His series of interviews has not delivered what it promised – not for me at least! It certainly hasn’t addressed the key issues that have created the reality we find ourselves inhabiting since that fateful day.
JA has all the hallmarks of being controlled opposition which is a regrettable circumstance. As why else would an intelligent individual, with a penchant for the truth and hacking, swallow with such ease the ridiculous theories that the zionist-controlled msm tries to force-feed everyone about 9/11?
Ariadna Theokopoulos
May 16, 2012 at 3:59 am
There are a few strong arguments in the link below that he may well be a CIA asset and working for the big banksters:
http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=3185
And now… for something completely different…
Your arguments about Islam do not seem prudent or well-informed to me.
I understand that they have this crazy notion that charging interest (or to use an ugly word “usury’) is wrong, and also something about the obligation to give to the poor that frankly sounds like redistribution of wealth — a recipe for backwardness. A little giving in well-organized private charities is OK but not a nanny state.
We did not get to this apex of civilization, which the Western world is, by rewarding the lazy and dumb but by rewarding enterprise and daring.
The people who have the drive (a beautiful word) and the smarts to accumulate as much wealth as possible (only as much as possible because there is no such thing as enough except for the mediocre) should be rewarded, not punished. They should be cherished, admired, emulated and yes, obeyed. As much as a naive or PC lass like you may think it or wish it, some races are inferior. I mean the others.
Somoe
May 16, 2012 at 9:27 am
hahaha… well when you put it like that, heaven forbid we should want to make life easier for those less fortu.. sorry the lazy and dumb, or to free ourselves from the tyranny er i mean driven zeal of the bankers. I just didn’t understand until you ‘explained’:-D
Thanks for that link also, it explains a great deal!
Jay Knott
May 17, 2012 at 5:30 pm
“JA has all the hallmarks of being controlled opposition…”
I wrote my response to Jonathon before reading Somoe’s comment, without realizing she had already perfectly illustrated the paranoid, unscientific, self-referential nature of the pile of religious doo-doo known as the ’9/11 truth movement’ better than I could parody.
“Why else would an intelligent individual…?”
Imagine, just for a moment, someone who genuinely thinks that the evidence doesn’t support the ’9/11 truth’ theory. That person reads comments supporting that theory from ‘intelligent individuals’. USING THE SAME CIRCULAR LOGIC, he or she would suspect these individuals of being ‘controlled opposition’.
Fortunately, I have found a way out of the labyrinth, so I don’t think that.
Somoe
May 17, 2012 at 6:27 pm
So Jay…
Please, for the benefit of all of us poor ignorant ’9/11 truth movementers’ do explain what you believe was the actual cause of those buildings coming down – a load of kerosene melted the reinforced steel, compromised the structure and down they came? I feel that you must have grasped something many of us missed.
How about WTC7 and the remarkably swift ‘pulling’of it we heard Larry Silverstein calling for. How long does it take to set charges to bring down a building that size? With your scientific brain I’m sure you can illuminate the subject for us all.
You see, to me it looks like you’re pretty quick to discount the views and opinions of people who don’t accept the pile of ‘doo-doo’ the establishment would like us all to swallow, but not so quick in coming forth with a sound argument other than these, frankly, weak personal attacks.
Ariadna Theokopoulos
May 17, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Here’s one small piece of it in a nursery thyme for your easier memorization:
19 muslims flew the planes that day
19 muslims flew the planes that day
But if one little muslim turns up alive oy, vey
There’ll be 18 muslims on the planes that day
18 muslims flew the planes that day
18 muslims flew the planes that day
But if another muslim turns up alive oy, vey
There’ll be 17 muslims on the planes that day
17 muslims flew the planes that day
(continue to 14)
14 muslims flew the planes that day
5 small muslims are in their homes away
But 19 muslims the story has to stay
Somoe
May 17, 2012 at 9:46 pm
LOL:-D
Ariadna, you are a genius wit of the highest order! I will indeed memorise it so that it might inform other unfortunate confused truth seekers.
Ariadna Theokopoulos
May 17, 2012 at 11:35 pm
” I will indeed memorise it so that it might inform other unfortunate confused truth seekers.”
Tell them to stay away from paper drinking straws as well while you are at it. Jay can tell you stories about that that would buckle your hair.
Jay Knott
July 26, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Nine mad theories
Flying around the place
Nine mad theories
Flying around the place
And if one mad theory
Should fall flat on its face
There’d be ten mad theories
Queueing to take its place
Ariadna Theokopoulos
July 26, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Blacks say that whites are “the rhythmless nation” but they never said whites, even Anglo-Saxons, are incapable of meter.
Jay, you need to fix the last line before we can make fun of the content of your limerick. One too many syllables, which forces the accent to fall on “ing”–superfluously jarring, a quality you usually provide in the content.
If you are capable of gratitude, you can take my suggestion below and just say, “Thank you, Ariadna.”
Suggested fix:
There’d be ten mad theories
Ripe to take its place
Note: My scientific training, like that of one of my late dogs, included poetry.
Ariadna Theokopoulos
May 17, 2012 at 8:37 pm
Because, sadly, I realize that your description: “the paranoid, unscientific, self-referential nature of the pile of religious doo-doo known as the ’9/11 truth movement” fits me, and because I still refuse to believe that my own government, who abhors rulers who “kill their own people,” would ever, ever northwood us, I am eager to be led by you “out of the labyrinth.”
Explain away, Jay, and lead us out of our religious doo-doo.
Jay Knott
May 17, 2012 at 9:59 pm
The ball of thread which will help Ariadna out of the labyrinth starts with Physics for Future Presidents by Richard Muller:
“When the temperature of the columns reached 1500°F, they weakened enough to become vulnerable to buckling. Buckling is not a gentle collapse. Take a paper drinking straw, and push the two ends toward each other…”
I don’t “refuse to believe” that our own rulers wouldn’t kill us – e.g. it is quite possible that the US government provoked the German sinking of the Lusitania in 1915 by shipping ammunition. But any particular case of our rulers allegedly killing us, does not follow from the general rule that they would kill us, if they deemed it expedient, as you seem to imply.
Ariadna Theokopoulos
May 17, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Ah, English, she is so wonderful. Not my first language but my favorite because it is so… how do you say, protean…
Every day I learn new meanings to phrases I thought I knew.
Today you taught me the meaning of “grasping at straws.” And you did it so simply: with straws!
The 1500 architects and engineers probably drink straight from the glass.
Jay Knott
May 18, 2012 at 2:03 am
And you taught me the meaning of ‘straw man argument’, Ariadna. Greek is not my any-ary language, but I do know that science is not a δημοκρατία…
Ariadna Theokopoulos
May 18, 2012 at 2:46 am
Your guy surely drew the short straw: having to “explain” it all not with science but with sci-fi.
[If you continue to be my straight man we could polish this routine until we exhaust every bit of pun life that can be squeezed out of "straw"]
Jonathon Blakeley
May 16, 2012 at 8:50 am
Very interesting. Why are the Wikileaks cables so very boring. Why was it that Wikileaks cables seemed to free of anything of import to do wih ISRAEL?
Julian Assange is not shocking or controversial, RT should give Ken O’Keefe his own program, now that would be interesting.
Jay Knott
May 17, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Jonathon – shock and controversy aren’t the only criteria. Integrity, sanity, and a grasp of the rules of logic may also be among RT’s considerations.
Jonathon Blakeley
May 17, 2012 at 5:17 pm
His show is just so boring I do not see the point of it. His questioning so lame, that I might as well watch the BBC.
Ariadna Theokopoulos
May 17, 2012 at 9:03 pm
Integrity? Galore!
http://www.puppet99.com/?p=1
Sanity and logic? Not the correct criteria for the appreciation of fairy tales. The “1001 Lies” collection of very imaginative tales about the Arabian djins who lived in hidden multi-storied underground palaces and had technology so advanced at their fingertips they could make the tallest steel and reinforced concrete skyscrapers melt and fall like dust, and had invented materials they used for their passports that rendered them resistant to the highest temperatures and shock waves, they penetrated the intelligence of the most sophisticated military power and knew exactly what simulation exercises were to be held when, and then they enacted the simulation!
who_me
May 16, 2012 at 10:33 am
rt is mostly run by jewish people who are rather sensitive about criticism of israel and zionism. in other words, it is very much like mainstream corporate media in the west.
assange, wikileaks and anonymous all seem rather fishy to me. i’ve read several interviews with assange and he is not an independent radical. he basically accepts the mainstream propaganda about most things he talked about. he either isn’t much of a thinker (which i tend to doubt) or is playing a prepared role. if wikileaks were really the sort of organisation they are played up to be, i cant see the zionazis at the nyt or guardian ever working with them.