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	<title>Comments on: Anna Ardin’s Police Statement</title>
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		<title>By: Ariadna Theokopoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/anna-ardins-police-statement/#comment-15479</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariadna Theokopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 17:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly you need some sensitivity seminars. Have you never heard that &quot;No means &#039;no&#039; &quot; even after the fact? Days, weeks, years after the fact, it does not matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly you need some sensitivity seminars. Have you never heard that &#8220;No means &#8216;no&#8217; &#8221; even after the fact? Days, weeks, years after the fact, it does not matter.</p>
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		<title>By: etominusipi</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/anna-ardins-police-statement/#comment-15475</link>
		<dc:creator>etominusipi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ariadna, thanks yet again for pointing out the error of my ways. if truth be told i had a certain unease that the ailment &lt;i&gt;male chauvinism&lt;/i&gt;, (MC), which troubled me in youth (localised, fortunately, to a region near the upper thighs), had begun to bother me again. apparently even the most advanced medical treatment can never entirely rid the sufferer of the viral vector which provokes the symptoms - however, like malaria it may lie dormant for decades, and this is about the best one can hope for. a friend who is a consultant geriatrician has informed me that it is MC which is responsible for the lower life expectancy of males, compared with females.

i do now see that i had totally misjudged Anna Ardin. i think this was partly because one of the many photographs on the internet of this wronged and humiliated woman bore an uncanny resemblance to the English Member of Parliament Louise Mensch, who arouses in me a strong and utterly irrational sense of loathing and despair. obviously this is no excuse for my unsympathetic post, but rather something i should have taken as an early warning sign that my MC was beginning to rear it&#039;s ugly head again.

the points you make about Anna&#039;s sentimental preservation of mementoes like a split condom and a soiled bedsheet are good ones. she is obviously a very loving person, whose only fault is excessive sympathy for others, particularly men in positions of power or authority.

although i do not believe he should go to prison, Assange clearly behaved like a complete cad, and Anna was obviously distracted from the ecstatic transports of love-making by the need to continually put her hand on the base of his penis to check that he had not once again removed the condom he had been so reluctant to put on in the first place. one hopes, given his evident insensitivity as a lover, that she was able, during the course of these investigatory hand-movements, to give herself a little clitoral stimulation which might at least have granted her some minimal quota of erogenous satisfaction from this otherwise dismal encounter.

her loving and forgiving nature is exemplified in the fact that, in spite of all this, she did not ask him to leave her flat and find somewhere else to park his disease-ridden body. i can hardly bear to imagine her chagrin when she discovered that he had also been fucking her best friend, whilst callously taking advantage of Anna&#039;s hospitality, and even using her electricity to power his computer for several hours every night.

the slur of Sweden in my comment was also an ill-judged and ungenerous gesture. it is quite evident that the Swedish police have acted with great sensitivity and tact throughout this whole sorry affair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ariadna, thanks yet again for pointing out the error of my ways. if truth be told i had a certain unease that the ailment <i>male chauvinism</i>, (MC), which troubled me in youth (localised, fortunately, to a region near the upper thighs), had begun to bother me again. apparently even the most advanced medical treatment can never entirely rid the sufferer of the viral vector which provokes the symptoms &#8211; however, like malaria it may lie dormant for decades, and this is about the best one can hope for. a friend who is a consultant geriatrician has informed me that it is MC which is responsible for the lower life expectancy of males, compared with females.</p>
<p>i do now see that i had totally misjudged Anna Ardin. i think this was partly because one of the many photographs on the internet of this wronged and humiliated woman bore an uncanny resemblance to the English Member of Parliament Louise Mensch, who arouses in me a strong and utterly irrational sense of loathing and despair. obviously this is no excuse for my unsympathetic post, but rather something i should have taken as an early warning sign that my MC was beginning to rear it&#8217;s ugly head again.</p>
<p>the points you make about Anna&#8217;s sentimental preservation of mementoes like a split condom and a soiled bedsheet are good ones. she is obviously a very loving person, whose only fault is excessive sympathy for others, particularly men in positions of power or authority.</p>
<p>although i do not believe he should go to prison, Assange clearly behaved like a complete cad, and Anna was obviously distracted from the ecstatic transports of love-making by the need to continually put her hand on the base of his penis to check that he had not once again removed the condom he had been so reluctant to put on in the first place. one hopes, given his evident insensitivity as a lover, that she was able, during the course of these investigatory hand-movements, to give herself a little clitoral stimulation which might at least have granted her some minimal quota of erogenous satisfaction from this otherwise dismal encounter.</p>
<p>her loving and forgiving nature is exemplified in the fact that, in spite of all this, she did not ask him to leave her flat and find somewhere else to park his disease-ridden body. i can hardly bear to imagine her chagrin when she discovered that he had also been fucking her best friend, whilst callously taking advantage of Anna&#8217;s hospitality, and even using her electricity to power his computer for several hours every night.</p>
<p>the slur of Sweden in my comment was also an ill-judged and ungenerous gesture. it is quite evident that the Swedish police have acted with great sensitivity and tact throughout this whole sorry affair.</p>
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		<title>By: etominusipi</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/anna-ardins-police-statement/#comment-15471</link>
		<dc:creator>etominusipi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 13:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.deliberation.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ariadna Theokopoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/anna-ardins-police-statement/#comment-15470</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariadna Theokopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 13:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craig Murray, even though not commenting here, undoubtedly posted this to defame the rape victim, slyly using her own testimony to do it. It does not surprise me one bit to see the men commenting on this thread showing equal hostility to her. Men are blind to the tender aspects of her personality that come through loud and clear to me from this deposition.
For one thing this is a sentimental girl for whom souvenirs mean a lot (as the blue dress did for Monica Lewinsky):
&quot;she still has the condom at home and will look at it. She says that even the bed sheets used on that occasion are most likely still in her hamper.&quot;

For another, men do not accept that there are many kinds of &quot;rape.&quot; This one had a component of the variety called &quot;disappointment rape,&quot; as evident from the example I cited earlier and from her cri de coeur, &quot;hope it&#039;s over soon.&quot;

As for eto&#039;s outrageous slur on Sweden, I will note that Sweden&#039;s congress with the US and NATO is never anything but fully compliant and cooperative, if not eager.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig Murray, even though not commenting here, undoubtedly posted this to defame the rape victim, slyly using her own testimony to do it. It does not surprise me one bit to see the men commenting on this thread showing equal hostility to her. Men are blind to the tender aspects of her personality that come through loud and clear to me from this deposition.<br />
For one thing this is a sentimental girl for whom souvenirs mean a lot (as the blue dress did for Monica Lewinsky):<br />
&#8220;she still has the condom at home and will look at it. She says that even the bed sheets used on that occasion are most likely still in her hamper.&#8221;</p>
<p>For another, men do not accept that there are many kinds of &#8220;rape.&#8221; This one had a component of the variety called &#8220;disappointment rape,&#8221; as evident from the example I cited earlier and from her cri de coeur, &#8220;hope it&#8217;s over soon.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for eto&#8217;s outrageous slur on Sweden, I will note that Sweden&#8217;s congress with the US and NATO is never anything but fully compliant and cooperative, if not eager.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon Blakeley</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/anna-ardins-police-statement/#comment-15469</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon Blakeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 12:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;When Anna began moving her body she noticed how things were running out of her vagina.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

 That will have been the Wiki-Leak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When Anna began moving her body she noticed how things were running out of her vagina.</p></blockquote>
<p> That will have been the Wiki-Leak.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon Blakeley</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/anna-ardins-police-statement/#comment-15468</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon Blakeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 12:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it really Rape when you give your accuser a key to your flat. Really British Justice is a joke, Sweden and the USA are not much better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it really Rape when you give your accuser a key to your flat. Really British Justice is a joke, Sweden and the USA are not much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon Blakeley</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/anna-ardins-police-statement/#comment-15465</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon Blakeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol ... This statement reads like something Barb Weir would knock up. It&#039;s pure comedy, i will be back later when time allows exercise my humour gland.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol &#8230; This statement reads like something Barb Weir would knock up. It&#8217;s pure comedy, i will be back later when time allows exercise my humour gland.</p>
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		<title>By: etominusipi</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/anna-ardins-police-statement/#comment-15460</link>
		<dc:creator>etominusipi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 04:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.deliberation.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: etominusipi</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/anna-ardins-police-statement/#comment-15459</link>
		<dc:creator>etominusipi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 04:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Friday 13th (&lt;i&gt;hmmm!)&lt;/i&gt; - drank tea (&lt;i&gt;what kind of tea? psycho-active or herbal?&lt;/i&gt;) - it was too late to say ‘stop’ (&lt;i&gt;not so, according to another police report it was only 9:35 pm. according to Swedish law it is possible to say &#039;stop&#039; until 10.00 pm&lt;/i&gt;) - Anna tried several times to reach for a condom (&lt;i&gt;condoms evidently scattered at convenient places around her flat, &lt;b&gt;just in case?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;).

just a few of many things in this report, and in the whole sorry tale, that arouse my suspicions. both Assange and Ardin are narcissists, and both have some past &#039;form&#039; with alphabet agencies. Spielberg no doubt has the film rights.

not so much a honey trap. more like a saccharine/aspartame compound, to be consumed with extreme caution.

it also appears that Sweden deserves an accolade -  already justly renowned for its advanced approach to &lt;i&gt;social hygiene&lt;/i&gt; this legendary country is  the Southern Poverty Law Centre of the sex legislation world. it should award the Nobel Peace Prize &lt;b&gt;to itself&lt;/b&gt;, for once. 

so come on, Sweden! don&#039;t be so &lt;i&gt;modest&lt;/i&gt;. stop hiding your light under a bushel. &lt;i&gt;and open those fucking legs! goddammit!&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friday 13th (<i>hmmm!)</i> &#8211; drank tea (<i>what kind of tea? psycho-active or herbal?</i>) &#8211; it was too late to say ‘stop’ (<i>not so, according to another police report it was only 9:35 pm. according to Swedish law it is possible to say &#8216;stop&#8217; until 10.00 pm</i>) &#8211; Anna tried several times to reach for a condom (<i>condoms evidently scattered at convenient places around her flat, <b>just in case?</b></i>).</p>
<p>just a few of many things in this report, and in the whole sorry tale, that arouse my suspicions. both Assange and Ardin are narcissists, and both have some past &#8216;form&#8217; with alphabet agencies. Spielberg no doubt has the film rights.</p>
<p>not so much a honey trap. more like a saccharine/aspartame compound, to be consumed with extreme caution.</p>
<p>it also appears that Sweden deserves an accolade &#8211;  already justly renowned for its advanced approach to <i>social hygiene</i> this legendary country is  the Southern Poverty Law Centre of the sex legislation world. it should award the Nobel Peace Prize <b>to itself</b>, for once. </p>
<p>so come on, Sweden! don&#8217;t be so <i>modest</i>. stop hiding your light under a bushel. <i>and open those fucking legs! goddammit!</i></p>
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		<title>By: Ariadna Theokopoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/anna-ardins-police-statement/#comment-15451</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariadna Theokopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 00:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why let him skate on the smaller offense of rape when this is worse: 
&quot;Anna says Assange lived with her but they hardly slept together because Assange was up at night working with his computer&quot;

the insensitive pig!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why let him skate on the smaller offense of rape when this is worse:<br />
&#8220;Anna says Assange lived with her but they hardly slept together because Assange was up at night working with his computer&#8221;</p>
<p>the insensitive pig!</p>
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