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9/11 ten years on: there are no excuses for buying the myth

New York City, New York. On September 8, 2011 – three days before the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, the Department of Homeland Security issued a statement warning of a ‘credible, specific, but unconfirmed‘ terror threat in New York City and Washington DC. Most obviously, a terror threat that is at once credible and specific, and yet is unconfirmed, is self-evidently contrived.

Keeping true to the decade-long history of scaremongering based on the mythical ‘war on terror’ narrative, the al Qaeda ghost has been recruited again, as has the fantasy of the bin Laden raid of May 01. We are told that the ‘threat’ emanates from Pakistan (as predictable as the clumsiest of scripts), and is as a result of the killing of long-dead Osama bin Laden – an event so obviously staged it makes one question the mental health of any person subscribing to the myth.

The staunchly pro-Israel New York Times is running the most vile, racist scaremongering propaganda one could imagine. Short on specific details of course, but heavy on racist, vague alarmism. The paper warns of two “American citizens of Arab ancestry” who are both between 5 and 6 feet tall, one of whom has a first name that is common in the Middle East.

Owing to this tide of fearmongering and hateful rhetoric, there is now an escalated police presence in Manhattan, with police officers carrying M16 rifles. Police checkpoints stop vehicles in rush hour. A 3,000-flag memorial in Battery Park. Tearful Americans pay their respects; the emotion and the fear is palpable. Never Forget.

‘Never Question’ is the true underlying meaning of this emotive, Orwellian motto that has been seared into the American psyche like brands on the hides of cattle.

Rational thought has been obliterated by emotion, fear, and psuedo-patriotic jingoism. The ‘Never Forget’ mantra, and the flags and plaques in Manhattan attest to the exceptionalism of ‘American suffering’, a concept so disingenuous it makes any honest, aware person sick to their stomach. Every shade of human life, from America to Afghanistan, and from Iraq to Libya, is precious. But the tears shed at Ground Zero are not rooted in universal compassion; they are rooted in a grotesque sense of false victimhood and superiority, and a resounding ignorance of the most important event of this generation.

The emotion, fevered patriotism, jingoism, racism, and fear. The Manichean myth of good versus evil and America’s unique role in it. These are the metaphorical strands of wool that are weaved tightly together and hauled over America’s eyes, shielding the lies from scrutiny and keeping the truth shrouded in darkness. The truth is not palatable to those who believe in the inherent goodness of their leaders and their supposed allies. If the Iraqi and Afghani victims of 9/11 were honoured, flags would cover every square inch of Manhattan and more.

Alas, it is important that Americans be distracted. They must be kept in an emotional haze, deterred from questioning the official account, because even the most cursory inspection exposes it for the monstrous lie that it is.

The official narrative is so bizarre and fantastical, it is an absolute wonder that so many fail to question it. The most basic, central elements of the story stretch even the most childish imagination. The laws of physics, immutable as they are, are the arch enemy of this fantasy. In this ‘idiot’s guide’ of sorts, I will focus mainly on the events in New York, in spite of the reams of lies and contradictions relating to all events that day. The events in New York City comprise by far the most obvious ‘smoking gun’, and I hope that the reader will be spurred to perform their own objective research.

The official myth

What are the chances of the world’s most advanced military infrastructure being thwarted by ‘camel jockeys’ who could not even fly small Cessna-type private aircraft? NORAD – the body responsible for America’s airspace defense – is hugely adept and experienced at intercepting hijacked aircraft. Still, it was thwarted by men using not technological weaponry or physical sabotage, but nothing more than box cutters.

Aside from the inexplicable failure of America’s air defenses and the Pentagon’s unrivalled military defense system, what are the chances of these inept and inexperienced amateurs stepping into the cockpits of gargantuan, advanced commercial jet aircraft for the first time, only to slam at high speed into their respective targets with clinical precision?

What are the chances of jet fuel melting steel into a liquid – a scientific impossibility? What are the chances of steel-framed skyscrapers disintegrating into dust in their entirety due to localised fire and damage – yet another physical impossibility?

What is the probability of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon and leaving no physical evidence? What is the chance of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon – the most guarded structure in the world, covered by a no-fly zone and anti-aircraft missile batteries – at all? Flight 93′s ‘crash’ in Pennsylvania stays firmly within this realm of fantasy. Not a single aspect of the official narrative can stand up to scrutiny.

The Controlled Demolition of the World Trade Center

At 08:46 on the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 11 slammed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center complex. At 09:03, United Airlines Flight 175 impacted the South Tower. At 09:59 the South Tower underwent a global, immediate disintegration wherein violent explosions reduced the entirety of the 110-storey steel-framed structure to nothing but dust in under ten seconds – the approximate time it would take a solid object to fall the equivalent height in a vacuum. The North Tower was to undergo a ‘collapse’ in an identical fashion at 10:28.

The two 110-floor steel-framed Twin Towers each contained forty-seven steel columns that ran through the structures like a series of spines. Not only were these gigantic steel columns sheared and broken down from top to bottom, but the entirety of the concrete, masonry, and building materials contained within the towers were reduced to dust in violent explosions. This is impossible as a result of a gravity-driven collapse caused by localised aircraft impact and the resulting fires.

The true nature of the ‘collapse’ of the World Trade Center towers is revealed in the presence of molten steel underneath both sites. We are not talking about steel heated to the point of weakness; we are talking about steel being converted into a liquid. Steel melts at approximately 1,500 degrees C (or approximately 2,700 degrees F). Even under optimum conditions and given all the time in the world, it is scientifically impossible for jet fuel to melt steel, as jet fuel burns at approximately 280 degrees C (or 550 degrees F).

Indeed firefighters and first responders have witnessed molten steel at the sites.

This video is also instructive. NIST engineer John Gross desperately tries to deny the presence of molten steel when told of witness tesimonies together with NASA thermal imaging photography that demonstrates the intense heat present at Ground Zero weeks after the event.

The third skyscraper to collapse at freefall speed that day was World Trade Center 7. WTC-7 was not hit by a plane, and yet it fell in an identical fashion to the two towers: freefall, through the path of greatest resistance, and exhibiting all of the telltale signs of controlled demolition including multiple explosions before and during ‘collapse’.

Suggesting foreknowledge, the BBC reported the fall of building 7 twenty minutes before it had even happened, at which time they promptly cut their news report.

Countless eyewitnesses have testified to explosions in the WTC buildings even before the impact of the planes, and nowhere near the impact points of the planes, including the basement levels.

Why have these testimonies not seen the light of day since the events ten years ago?

It is painfully obvious that the three towers were demolished with explosives. No rational adult can disagree with this in light of the evidence. ‘Al Qaeda’ could not possibly have rigged the towers with explosives for a controlled demolition. Not only would this require technology and expertise that is far beyond their capability, but it would require unfettered access to the high-security buildings beforehand – something which could only be attained with official complicity.

Following this line of inquiry, a rational person will conclude that the same party that planted the explosives, also flew the jets into the targets; even if it was known that ‘al Qaeda’ was planning to fly jets into those targets, it was simply not guaranteed that they would pull it off and indeed it was extremely unlikely given their extreme piloting inexperience. This left the possibility of one or more towers being rigged with explosives from top to bottom, without a plane having hit and therefore no basis on which to demolish the structures.

This seems to be precisely what happened to WTC-7. Flight 93 was destined for this structure, but it was shot down over Shanksville before it could reach its target. As a result they had to ‘pull’ building 7 and simply use the excuse of ‘fire’ to explain this staggering event.

This is why WTC-7 has already been rebuilt and recommissioned with practically zero press attention; they wish to remove this event from history altogether.

For answers we must look to ardent Zionist and Rabbi Dov Zackheim, then Comptroller of the Pentagon under Bush. From 1987 – 2001 he was CEO of Systems Planning Corporation – a company making advanced aviation systems one of which was the Flight Termination System, used for remote piloting large jet aircraft.

Owing to media censorship by omission, staggering numbers of people continue to accept the official account of the 9/11 terror attacks whether relating to the events in New York, at the Pentagon, or in Shanksville.

Following is live TV coverage of the ‘crash’ of Flight 93. Witnesses tell of no debris that could identify a plane crash, nothing larger than a phone book, and debris that is spread over an area of many miles. None of this is consistent with a plane crash. Again, this has not been mentioned on a single mainstream news outlet since that day.

Aside from the overtly obvious cover-up of the events in New York and Shanksville, the FBI refuses to release its 80 videos showing what really hit the Pentagon. No physical evidence of Flight 77 having hit it exists, and it’s downright embarrassing to think that so many believe a commercial airliner could have simply flown into the most guarded military structure on the planet.

Contrary to prescribed opinion, Osama bin Laden did not claim responsibility for the attacks; he outright denied it a mere two weeks afterwards. Three months later the CIA asset would be dead, leaving the way clear for the media manipulation that would ensure the al Qaeda apparition was alive and well.

If the real perpetrators of 9/11 were identified to indignant Americans, righteous tears of bereavement would morph into tears of uncontainable rage. Congress would be purged, government would be dissolved from top to bottom, and the $3bn in annual aid to the Zionist entity would be halted in the blink of an eye. 3,000 innocents died on 9/11. Ten years on and millions are dead, maimed, orphaned, displaced, tortured, humiliated, and subjugated as a direct result of the Zionist ‘War on Terror’. We all must stand up and be counted, there really are no excuses for continuing to buy this abominable lie.

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54 Responses to 9/11 ten years on: there are no excuses for buying the myth

  1. who_me August 15, 2012 at 6:33 am #

    “If the real perpetrators of 9/11 were identified to indignant Americans, righteous tears of bereavement would morph into tears of uncontainable rage. Congress would be purged, government would be dissolved from top to bottom, and the $3bn in annual aid to the Zionist entity would be halted in the blink of an eye.”

    this is the real reason why gatekeepers continue to promote the official propaganda and attack questioners.

    • Ariadna Theokopoulos August 15, 2012 at 9:02 am #

      Why don’t we save ourselves until Jay arrives…. :-)
      It’s nowhere near as stimulating without him

      • who_me August 15, 2012 at 9:26 am #

        after hearing 10 years of “no, no, no, ‘the jews’ would never do anything like that, and u.s. government would never lie” i don’t think of jay’s contribution to the wankery….er, 9/11 official arguments, as being very stimulating. if he could come up with some real argument, that would be different, but he never does.

        • Ariadna Theokopoulos August 15, 2012 at 2:26 pm #

          It’s not just the joke, it’s how you tell it….

          • who_me August 15, 2012 at 6:36 pm #

            speaking of which, he’s got his mother of all 9/11 articles to finish…. ;)

  2. Ariadna Theokopoulos August 15, 2012 at 6:49 am #

    9/11 was the mother of all false flag operations and, as I said elsewhere, it spawned crimes that dwarfed it

  3. etominusipi August 15, 2012 at 9:52 am #

    WE, THE SHEEPLE

    these days “i was only obeying orders” is not recognised as a moral defense. people do ‘obey orders’ nevertheless, many of them feeling, rightly or wrongly, that they have little choice in the matter. but they cannot feel good about themselves for doing so – and that is the point.

    what about “i was only believing what i was told by the media and politicians”?

    the term ‘sheeple’ provides an apparently useful propaganda tool in the ideological war.

    to me this term smacks of advertising ‘values’. it serves only to make some in ‘the truth-seeking community’ feel a little better about themselves. they should not need such false stimuli to sustain them.

    indeed it prevents thought about the real nature of the current situation by pretending to offer a facile explanation for the condoning to official lies.

    there are several reasons why this word ‘sheeple’ should be used sparingly if at all. i will mention three.

    it reinforces an ‘us and them’ mentality. this divides the population, and encourages truth-seekers to languish in a well-furnished ivory tower, anger at their impotence to act palliated by the comfort and fraternal solidarity of belonging to a small minority that knows the truth. like Jehovah’s Witnesses, say. in the final stage of such a corruption of thought, they would prefer the truth not to be acknowledged, because that would deprive them of the comfort of their ‘privileged’ position.

    secondly the word ‘sheeple’, even if justified as a metaphor, is of the nature of an insult, albeit a mild one. therefore its use demeans the speaker as well as the one spoken to. furthermore, for the selfsame reason its usefulness as an instrument of persuasion is virtually zero. it is only useful in preaching to the converted.

    finally, and most importantly, the term ‘sheeple’ conveniently obscures an important question of ethics, and almost seems to provide an excuse for apathy.

    ‘i am only one of the sheeple, what else would you expect me to do?’

    but it must be asked: at what point do sheeple lose their victim status and become morally responsible for the evils they passively condone?

    Martin’s title is, and should be, uncompromising:

    after a decade, there is no excuse for buying the myth.

    not now, not now the ‘shock and awe’ has died away. not now, when so many of the real facts about the events of that September 11th are out in the open. not now, when supposedly civilised nations are waging genocidal wars of naked aggression, for the purpose of plunder and illegitimate social control.

    i have said elsewhere that public intellectuals can hardly maintain their careers of they make a fuss about ’9/11′. so either they have to lie to the public, or they have to lie to themselves. either way is corrupting.

    during a reign of lies, the only honorable course is to cease to be a public intellectual – not by resigning, but by ‘publishing and being damned. (by the zionist-controlled media)’.

    the stale myth we are now peddled in the name of democracy makes all people ‘equal’, but only in some very vague way. the ballot box is a fraudulent ceremonial by which this myth is reinforced. how can anyone who knows nothing, and does not wish to know anything, contribute to informed decision-making?

  4. Ariadna Theokopoulos August 15, 2012 at 8:57 pm #

    Perhaps deLib needs a new category, one that is likely to see a lot of postings and traffic: False Flag Ops.
    One such FF op was the “killing of Ben Laden,” which has now become the topic of the electoral campaign. Those “attacking” Obama for taking credit for it do a nice job of reinforcing the myth of that FF op:

    “WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A group of former U.S. intelligence and Special Forces operatives is set to launch a media campaign, including TV ads, that scolds President Barack Obama for taking credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden and argues that high-level leaks are endangering American lives.
    Leaders of the group, the Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund Inc, say it is nonpartisan and unconnected to any political party or presidential campaign. It is registered as a so-called social welfare group, which means its primary purpose is to further the common good and its political activities should be secondary.
    In the past, military exploits have been turned against presidential candidates by outside groups, most famously the Swift Boat ads in 2004 that questioned Democratic nominee John Kerry’s Vietnam War service.
    The OPSEC group says it is not political and aims to save American lives. Its first public salvo is a 22-minute film that includes criticism of Obama and his administration. The film, to be released on Wednesday, was seen in advance by Reuters.
    “Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not,” Ben Smith, identified as a Navy SEAL, says in the film.
    “As a citizen, it is my civic duty to tell the president to stop leaking information to the enemy,” Smith continues. “It will get Americans killed.”
    An Obama campaign official said: “No one in this group is in a position to speak with any authority on these issues and on what impact these leaks might have, and it’s clear they’ve resorted to making things up for purely political reasons.”

  5. who_me August 16, 2012 at 12:44 am #

    at the time of bin laden’s supposed execution by american navy seals (ar ar ar), it was speculated that the americans (re: the israelis) needed to have bin laden out of the picture. they had been pretending he was running al qaida, and faked videos by him, for many years, probably since 2001-2. but they needed to get him “dead”. it was speculated this was because the usa (re: israel) were going to begin using al qaida openly. well guess what?

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/14/oligarchs-at-the-gate/

    “Speaking before the Council on Foreign Relations on August 8, Obama’s national security aid John Brennan defended the diversion of American taxpayers’ money to the outside forces Washington has organized, financed and provided with military weapons to overthrow the government of Syria. John Brennan said, with a straight face, that the Obama administration is careful that the financial and military aid does not go to the rebels affiliated with al Qaeda. Brennan has to make this claim, because the Obama regime, being in cahoots with al Qaeda, is in violation of its own NDAA and is subject to arrest and indefinite detention.”

    only a very naive fool can still think al qaida isn’t an israeli/usa run front for their staging of false flag terrorism.

  6. Jay Knott August 17, 2012 at 2:53 am #

    Right on cue. As if to confirm my predictions – http://tinyurl.com/9jn2zs6 – about conspiracy nuts turning Palestine solidarity into a new Stalinism, one of the most vocal of the party hacks of this cult tries to blackmail us into not thinking for ourselves.

    He says there are ‘no excuses’ for ‘buying’ the argument that a group of Musliim extremists murdered over 3,000 people in New York on September 11, 2001: it’s ‘self-evidently contrived’. Iqbal doesn’t try to persuade us, doesn’t carefully compare various theories, he tells us we MUST believe in his version of how 9/11 happened. He won’t accept any excuses!

    Articles like this would be a laugh, or a useful introduction to basic logical fallacies for children, but the 9/11 knuckleheads have negative effects. Julian Assange needs support, but the conspiracy cultists describe him as a ‘controlled asset of Zionism’ because he refuses to believe Muslim terrorist attacks are really organised by Mossad. Fortunately, not everyone is convinced by this circular argument – http://tinyurl.com/btmhbzt – and the 9/11 truth cult won’t stop us.

    I don’t need ‘excuses’ for testing theories according to their capacity for falsification. It just comes naturally.

    • who_me August 17, 2012 at 3:44 am #

      as usual, zio-jay fails to come up with an adequate rebuttle on the points made in the article. instead he uses ad hominim, baiting, childishness, etc. to avoid confronting the issues raised. in other wordss, standard zionazi hasbara slander spam.

  7. Jay Knott August 17, 2012 at 2:57 am #

    And here’s another article from the late, great Alexander Cockburn at Counterpunch:

    http://tinyurl.com/8maxhgx

    He was even more contemptuous of ’9/11 truth’ than I am. Obviously, he was a hasbara troll, Zionazi agent, etc.!

    • who_me August 17, 2012 at 4:04 am #

      “Obviously, he was a hasbara troll, Zionazi agent, etc.!”

      he was a polemical journalist obviously out of his league attempting to play historian. here he is getting shot down, in flames, over his earlier attempts to shut down discussion about the jfk assassination:

      http://www.911blogger.com/node/15824

      Michael Parenti: THE JFK ASSASSINATION II: CONSPIRACY PHOBIA ON THE LEFT

      “Unfortunately, some writers normally identified as on the Left have rejected any suggestion that conspiracy occurred. While the rightists and centrists were concerned about preserving the legitimacy of existing institutions and keeping people from seeing the gangster nature of the state, the leftists had different concerns, though it was not always clear what these were.

      Noam Chomsky, Alexander Cockburn, and others challenge the notion that Kennedy was assassinated for intending to withdraw from Vietnam or for threatening to undo the CIA or end the cold war. Such things could not have led to his downfall, they argue, because Kennedy was a cold warrior, pro-CIA, and wanted a military withdrawal from Vietnam only with victory. Chomsky claims that the change of administration that came with JFK’s assassination had no appreciable effect on policy. In fact, the massive ground war ordered by Johnson and the saturation bombings of Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos ordered by Nixon represented a dramatic departure from Kennedy’s policy. On some occasions, Chomsky says he refuses to speculate: “As for what JFK might have done [had he lived], I have nothing to say.” Other times he goes on to speculate that Kennedy would not have “reacted differently to changing situations than his close advisers” and “would have persisted in his commitment to strengthen and enhance the status of the CIA” (Z Magazine, 10/92 and 1/93).”

      cockburn was echoing the chomsky line on jfk.

      no doubt zio-jay had never heard of structuralism in relation to historical study before. :D

      the difference between a journalist (cockburn) and an historian (parenti) is historians are supposed to base their work upon factual material and be impartial (the good ones try to do this, not the neo-con/paleo-con rubbish who are basically advert writers). journalism is all about swaying people’s views, facts be damned. totally opposite professions. polemical journalists don’t do history, they do “history” that presents the view they want to polemicise.

      why cockburn wanted to prevent people questioning things like the jfk assassination and the 9/11 attacks, i don’t know, but the unreasonableness of his trying to stop people looking into these leaves much the same distaste as those who want to silence holocaust research. it’s not their views on these events which are the problem, it’s their desire to make sure opposing views are silenced.

      • etominusipi August 19, 2012 at 10:39 pm #

        true

        • Jonathon Blakeley August 19, 2012 at 10:58 pm #

          I think all things should be up for debate as long it is done with style and good taste, even things of a taboo nature.

  8. Ariadna Theokopoulos August 17, 2012 at 4:26 am #

    “why cockburn wanted to prevent people questioning things like the jfk assassination and the 9/11 attacks, i don’t know, but the unreasonableness of his trying to stop people looking into these leaves much the same distaste as those who want to silence holocaust research. it’s not their views on these events which are the problem, it’s their desire to make sure opposing views are silenced.”

    Good point, excellently made

  9. James August 17, 2012 at 9:09 am #

    Aspects of inconvenient history -

    http://www.scribd.com/Huckelberry

    It’s now official – there’s been no actual shortage of ‘Holocaust Survivors’.

    Quote from The Holocaust Industry by Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York, published by Verso in the year 2000:

    ‘The Israeli Prime Minister’s office recently put the number of “living Holocaust survivors” at nearly a million.’ (page 83)

    I’ve checked out the six volumes of Churchill’s Second World War – not a single mention of Nazi ‘gas chambers,’ a ‘genocide’ of the Jews, or of ‘six million’ Jewish victims of the war.

    Eisenhower’s Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; Churchill’s Second World War totals 4,448 pages; and De Gaulle’s three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages.
    In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi ‘gas chambers,’ a ‘genocide’ of the Jews, or of ‘six million’ Jewish victims of the war.

  10. James August 17, 2012 at 9:10 am #

    And then there is the question of the Zionist trial runs of the “6 Million” Holocaust propaganda in 1911 – and 1919..

    Max Nordau (1849-1923) was the co-founder of the World Zionist Organization together with Theodor Herzl: have a look at this Nordau quote from Ben Hecht’s book ‘Perfidy’ – (available for free in PDF format at http://www.hirhome.com/israel/perfidy.pdf on page 232 of 261):

    Quote:
    In the Zionist Congress of 1911, [22 years before Hitler came to power, and three years before World War I], Nordau said, “How dare the smooth talkers, the clever official blabbers, open their mouths and boast of progress. . . . Here they hold jubilant peace conferences in which they talk against war. . . . But the same righteous Governments, who are so nobly, industriously active to establish the eternal peace, are preparing, by their own confession, complete annihilation for six million people, and there is nobody, except the doomed themselves, to raise his voice in protest although this is a worse crime than any war . . .”
    Unquote.

  11. James August 17, 2012 at 9:11 am #

    And take a look at the article from The American Hebrew, October 31 1919 prophesying a ‘holocaust’ of ‘six million’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_H._Glynn):
    The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!
    by Martin H. Glynn (former Governor of the State of N.Y.)

    “From across the sea six million men and women call to us for help, and eight hundred thousand little children cry for bread.

    “These children, these men and women are our fellow-members of the human family, with the same claim on life as we, the same susceptibility to the winter’s cold, the same propensity to death before the fangs of hunger. Within them reside the illimitable possibilities for the advancement of the human race as naturally would reside in six million human beings. We may not be their keepers but we ought to be their helpers.

    “In the face of death, in the throes of starvation, there is no place for mental distinctions of creed, no place for physical differentiations of race. In this catastrophe, when six million human beings are being whirled toward the grave by a cruel and relentless fate, only the most idealistic promptings of human nature should sway the heart and move the hand.

    “Six million men and women are dying from lack of the necessaries of life; eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, through no transgression of the laws of God or man; but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood.

    “In this threatened holocaust of human life..” etc etc

    - end of quotes.

    - Remember, this was in 1919.

  12. James August 17, 2012 at 9:13 am #

    Dirty Little Secrets – the hidden, awkward origins of World War 2 – the unexpected views of four key diplomats who were close to events

    Just consider the following:

    · Joseph P. Kennedy, U.S. Ambassador to Britain during the years immediately preceding WW2 was the father of the famous American Kennedy dynasty. James Forrestal the first US Secretary of Defense (1947-1949) quotes him as saying “Chamberlain (the British Prime Minister) stated that America and the world Jews had forced England into the war”. (The Forrestal Diaries ed. Millis, Cassell 1952 p129).

    · Count Jerzy Potocki, the Polish Ambassador in Washington, in a report to the Polish Foreign Office in January 1939, is quoted approvingly by the highly respected British military historian Major-General JFC Fuller. Concerning public opinion in America he says “Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands…when bearing public ignorance in mind, their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge of the true state of affairs in Europe… It is interesting to observe that in this carefully thought-out campaign… no reference at all is made to Soviet Russia. If that country is mentioned, it is referred to in a friendly manner and people are given the impression that Soviet Russia is part of the democratic group of countries… Jewry was able not only to establish a dangerous centre in the New World for the dissemination of hatred and enmity, but it also succeeded in dividing the world into two warlike camps…President Roosevelt has been given the power.. to create huge reserves in armaments for a future war which the Jews are deliberately heading for.” (Fuller, JFC: The Decisive Battles of the Western World vol 3 pp 372-374.)

    · Hugh Wilson, the American Ambassador in Berlin until 1938, the year before the war broke out, found anti-Semitism in Germany ‘understandable’. This was because before the advent of the Nazis, “the stage, the press, medicine and law [were] crowded with Jews…among the few with money to splurge, a high proportion [were] Jews…the leaders of the Bolshevist movement in Russia, a movement desperately feared in Germany, were Jews. One could feel the spreading resentment and hatred.” (Hugh Wilson: Diplomat between the Wars, Longmans 1941, quoted in Leonard Mosley, Lindbergh, Hodder 1976).

    · Sir Nevile Henderson, British Ambassador in Berlin ‘said further that the hostile attitude in Great Britain was the work of Jews and enemies of the Nazis, which was what Hitler thought himself’ (Taylor, AJP: The Origins of the Second World War Penguin 1965, 1987 etc p 324).

    Etc etc etc etc – more detail at http://www.rense.com/general92/dirty.htm

  13. James August 17, 2012 at 9:17 am #

    http://www.mo911truth.org/

    Alan N. Sabrosky, PhD – Former Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research, U.S. Army War College. A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran with 10 years of service. Graduate of the U.S. Army War College. Teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University. While in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). Writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs, lecturing widely on defense and foreign affairs in the United States and abroad. His published work includes thirteen books or monographs and over one hundred forty articles, chapters and book reviews. Author, co-author, or editor of Prisoners of War: Nation States in the Modern Era (1990), The Recourse to War: An Appraisal of the “Weinberger Doctrine” (1988), Alliances in U.S. Foreign Policy (1988), The Strategic Dimension of Military Manpower (1987), Polarity and War: The Changing Structure of International Conflict (1985), Great Power Games: The Sino American Power Transition (1982).
    Essay “Treason, Betrayal and Deceit: 9/11 and Beyond” 9/10/09:

    “The official 9/11 Commission’s work and report were at best an incomplete exercise. Many people dismiss the findings of the Commission, and that includes its co-chairs [ Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton ]. Many others who utterly distrust the 9/11 Commission report, dismiss the US Government’s explanation of it, and point to both an official cover-up and an “inside job,” include veteran fighter pilots, EMTs (Emergency Medical Technicians), air defense experts, experienced commercial pilots, demolition experts, architects and civil engineers – none of them professions that inherently attract and retain the gullible and credulous.

    Several things are very clear to me from a careful assessment of both official and critical evaluations of the 9/11 attacks. First, the striking aircraft alone simply could not have brought down either of the two buildings in the manner in which they fell, much less a third building which was not hit by a plane (I expect the one intended to do that as a “cover” had ended up in that Pennsylvania field), given the available physical evidence and a wealth of expert testimony. This means the attackers had assistance on the ground, and it had to have been active before the attacks occurred: preparing buildings for controlled demolition is not something done haphazardly in the midst of chaos.

    Second, only two intelligence agencies had the expertise, assets, access and political protection to execute 9/11 in the air and on the ground: our CIA and Israel’s Mossad. Only one had the incentive, using the “who benefits” principle: Mossad. And that incentive dovetailed perfectly with the neo-con’s agenda and explicitly expressed need for a catalytic event to mobilize the American public for their wars, using American military power to destroy Israel’s enemies. Only the unexpected strength of the Iraqi resistance kept Syria and Iran from being attacked in the second Bush Administration. Thus, the evidential trail for 9/11 and the wars in Afghanistan & Iraq run from PNAC, AIPAC and their cohorts; through the mostly Jewish neo-cons in the Bush Administration; and back to the Israeli government. None of the denials and political machinations can alter that essential reality. Terms such as treason, betrayal and deceit do not overstate the case against them.

    Finally, we need to take a hard look at why the mainstream media (MSM) have paid more attention to Sarah Palin’s wardrobe than they have to dissecting blatant falsehoods, discrepancies and inconsistencies in the US Government’s treatment of 9/11 and its aftermath. And the reason is that on this issue, all are on the same side, and the official line is the one they all prefer – “all” meaning the PNAC alumni who took over the Bush Administration’s national security apparatus and their counterparts in the Obama administration, AIPAC and the rest of the numerous Jewish PACs, the MSM owners and Israel.” http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23460.htm

  14. casar August 19, 2012 at 6:59 pm #

    The striking success of 9/11 and the pinpoint accuracy of the jet strikes and complete pulverization of the twin towers and building #7 is very suspicious and Israeli Mossad conspiracy cannot be overlooked and discounted. However, the burning of the jet fuel within a contained space would contain temperatures and insulate the increasing heat generated and would slow dissipation and allow temperatures to rise rapidly. So, 1500 C is possible to achieve. Once the top stories fell their increasing downward inertial mass would easily overcome any structural resistance and the lower floors immediate collapse would have become unstoppable allowing for a near free-fall collapse. Building #7′s total free fall collapse is not so easily explained away as the twin towers though. A lot of steel and masonry debris (and I mean a lot) would have had to have landed on it evenly distributed across the entire buildings structural load to make it also simultaneously collapse like a controlled demolition. All of the steel and other debris of the twin towers surely landed on building #7. But, and then the fire in that building would have also significantly weakened the steel structural supports and could have led to its collapse as well. However, I find a total collapse like that in Building #7 improbably and highly unlikely. I am an extreme skeptic of nearly all Israeli 911 conspiracy theories. However, even I am having trouble believing that Building #7 fell on its own like that. And, yes I am aware of the USS Liberty and other Israeli false flag operations. So there’s no doubt Israel is capable of it. But, did they do 911? I’m open to the possibility; but, not completely convinced. Most of the evidence you all have submitted is speculative, controversial and subject to opinion and alternative explanation. If you’re premise is that Osama bin Laden and these Saudis could not have successfully pulled this off or would not have attempted it because they are pious and God fearing Muslims who would never hurt innocent civilians, I find that opinion and premise for your explanation of 9/11 conspiracies to be far more suspect an illogical. Anyone piloting a plane knows it’s far simpler to fly it than it is to land it and nearly anyone can fly a plane once it’s in the air. Also, anyone attempting a kamikaze hit would have naturally aimed for the center of a building they were planning to fly into. Point in case, these speculations are worth raising, looking into and analyzing, but so far they don’t prove Israeli Mossad guilt and absolve Osama bin Laden, al-Qaeda, and the Saudi attackers.

    However, this website which documents stories about distant secondary explosions (unlikely in a collapse without explosives) after the collapse of the twin towers and damage to WTC #7 building is worth further consideration.
    http://lightsteelframe.co.za/videos/911-wtc-7-pile-23-hours-later-debris-from-collapse-blew-up-causing-distant-roof-fire/

    • Ariadna Theokopoulos August 19, 2012 at 7:34 pm #

      My most sincere compliments.
      With regrets to Barb Weir, you are the best satirist deLib has had yet.
      In fact you are so good that I’d say the puny material Jay submitted does not deserve your talent.
      I like the variant spelling of Khazar under which you signed too.
      You’re the man!

      PS I liked this bit a lot (minus the “you’re” for your”m–easily corrected):
      “If you’re premise is that Osama bin Laden and these Saudis could not have successfully pulled this off or would not have attempted it because they are pious and God fearing Muslims who would never hurt innocent civilians..”

      You didn’t just make a straw man, you produced the straws first all by yourself! Genius!

      • who_me August 19, 2012 at 8:43 pm #

        nice demolition. :)

        a few years ago there was a guy who liked to promote just about every theory about 9/11, except those that postulated israeli involvement. i noticed him first on the old guardian board where he always had at least one thread going on 9/11. he and several hasbarats would debate about this and that, staying well clear of israel, and joining together against anybody else who brought up israel. i did a web search on the guy and discovered he was all over the websites where 9/11 discussions took place, under various guises. the one consistent thing about his postings, i noticed, is he was always trying to get people to email him.

        this is one of the more subtle israeli ops at data mining. what he was looking for was people who doubted the official story to pass along their personal data on to computer archives in israel. the guy did this for years. he probably still is doing it. i had not thought about that leech in years, but the gymnastics “khazar” produced reminded me of those old guardian threads. :)

        • Ariadna Theokopoulos August 19, 2012 at 10:25 pm #

          Weren’t you told already that you can’t have a proper dialog if you don’t know the person’s “real identity”?

          • who_me August 19, 2012 at 11:35 pm #

            and the identity of their kids’ schools, their bank, credit card and tax id numbers, where they work, who they voted for… :D

  15. casar August 19, 2012 at 7:10 pm #

    More evidence the growing fire took out North Tower WTC 1 and not explostives and controlled demolition.

    http://lightsteelframe.co.za/videos/911-north-tower-wtc-1-demolition-20-blocks-north-with-standing-core-spire/

  16. etominusipi August 19, 2012 at 11:00 pm #

    i think this kazzer is very naive and should be replaced a.s.a.p.

    it is an insult to deLiberation – poor recompense for all the effort we put into our FREE hasbara troll correspondence courses.

  17. Rehmat August 20, 2012 at 5:16 am #

    I bet the writer has not heard of this clasic story concerning the 9/11.

    The story tells us how G-d of Talmud saved nine Jews being among the some 3000 Gentiles dead inside WTC on the morning of September 11, 2001. Anyone who is familiar with Piyyut (poem) on Chanukah ‘Maoz Tzur’ – would know how Jewish history is full of miracles – saving the chosen people from Egyptians, Persians, Chriatians and so.

    http://rehmat1.com/2009/06/10/911-waiting-for-the-tenth-man/

    • etominusipi August 20, 2012 at 10:02 am #

      great story! i particularly liked the deft touch at the end:

      …the man was gone, his identity forever a mystery…

      however this beautiful conclusion, although it dovetails so neatly into the mythology of chosenhood, must be set down as poetic licence.

      several relevant facts emerged soon after the story was first published in the New Yorker (June 27th 2002). according to Herbert Brown Jr, a deaf-mute janitor working for the office next door to the makeshift place of worship, the mysterious completer of the minyan was none other than Mr Larry Silverstein, who, as has become apparent, (contrary to his stated motive in the tale) was on his way to an appointment with his onychologist.

      Mr Silverstein’s legendary modesty has resulted in him spending several million dollars in an attempt to erase all traces of a personal connection with these miraculous events. however Eric Hufschmidt, a deranged 911 truther with a family connection to the Murdoch empire, obtained a recording of a cocktail party conversation in which one can hear Mr Silverstein gave his own version of the events to the antipodean tycoon himself. i am still actively negotiating to obtain a transcript of this tape.

      i wrote personally to Mr Silverstein with the following question:

      Mr. Silverstein, if my other leg had bells on, what would you recommend i should do with it?

      since i have received no answer, i am throwing the question out to everyone, with a prize for the most useful suggestion.

      NB answers on a 19-second video, please

  18. fool me once... August 20, 2012 at 12:08 pm #

    “Mr. Silverstein, if my other leg had bells on, what would you recommend i should do with it?” :D
    With only a one belled leg I guess this activity would be out of the question;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQMX1cr14lc&feature=related
    Not to say this 911 merry dance wont lead to many a silver and gold coated bell end, although, using “humour”, significant others do try to throw us off the scent;
    http://www.jewishjokes.net/jokes/769/Why-aren

    • etominusipi August 20, 2012 at 1:54 pm #

      excellent! great squeeze box, and very tight on the stick rhythms.

  19. Ariadna Theokopoulos August 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm #

    “Not a single aspect of the official narrative can stand up to scrutiny.”

    This is not completely true.
    There is one that has been documented as factual: Bush was indeed reading to children in a kindergarten at the time of the attack. Nobody claims he got all the words right but he was in fact so intensely involved in that activity that he did not react when first told of the attack and went on sounding words out.
    So, OK, all the rest of it is a monstrous lie, but let’s not say that there is not one thing proved to be accurate.

  20. Jay Knott August 21, 2012 at 3:41 am #

    Ariadna’s losing it: ‘“Not a single aspect of the official narrative can stand up to scrutiny.” This is not completely true.’

    Not completely true? Gatekeeper! Zionazi hasbara troll sock puppet! Controlled opposition!

    Ariadna’s version of the ‘My Pet Goat’ story doesn’t mention Mossad.

    It wasn’t George W Bush reading to those children in Florida.

  21. etominusipi August 21, 2012 at 12:00 pm #

    911: AT LAST!!! CONCLUSIVE PROOF NO ISRAEL INVOLVEMENT.

    spurred on by Jay’s consistent skepticism, and the new evidence brought into the discussion by the recent troll called kazzer (has he gone?) i decided to look at the facts in a different light.

    1. no Israeli passports ever found in the debris.

    this is a very telling point. we know, from police and security records that a Saudi hijacker’s passport was found in the Manhattan streets, proving the paper of such a document is well able to sustain temperatures of up to 1450 degrees centigrade. if any of the hijackers had been an Israeli citizen, how come no Israeli travel documents were found?

    2. although no Arab names were found on the flight manifests, as is well-known, Mohammed Atta’s car was found in the airport car lot. amongst other things discovered in this vehicle by subsequent FBI forensic analysis detected the following incriminating items of evidence:

    (a) a complete mobile battlefield bio-lab, containing 89 kg plutonium, and 3 tons of weaponised anthrax. this anthrax was stored in canisters which were unmarked except for the UN biohazard emblem and a sentence in Arabic which translates as: stolen by terrorists from the Lawrence Livermore laboratories

    (b) 731 fully weaponised copies of the Qu’ran written in a dialect of the German tongue which was only ever used for transmitting encrypted messages between members of the East German secret police prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

    (c) a receipt for 20 boxcutters, made out to the head of the Pakistani ISI. this purchase was made in a Florida hardware store on 9th September.

    (d) a wax impression of Mayor Giuliani’s dentures.

    (e) $3 trillion in used banknotes

    (f) signed photographs of several important US-Israeli officials, including Chertoff, Zakheim and Zellikow, who had evidently been targeted for assassination in order to throw the investigation into disarray.

    (g) seven chips from a Las Vegas Casino owned by the Ayatollah Khatami (clearly demonstrating an Iranian dimension to the attacks)

    (h) the telephone numbers of 7,403 Mossad agents working in various cities of the USA. this undoubtedly made it much easier for the conspirators to avoid detection, as all incoming calls could be checked against the list.

    (i) seventeen sacks of matzos and gefillte fish (used for bribing Israelis working in various US government departments).

    (j) 96 Kalashnikof assault weapons with 6,000,000 rounds of live ammunition (under waterboarding several Al-Qaeda leaders have confessed that this ammunition was for a planned assassination of the remaining holocaust survivors in the United States, to demoralise the US and Israeli governments, and derail any enquiry into the attacks)

    ….

    this is surely enough. Jay Knott has already put the main pieces of the 911 jigsaw together for you in a convincing way. most of these extra items of evidence simply help tie up various loose ends left by the original investigators.

    only item (c) above gives residual cause for concern.

    there is one box-cutter unaccounted for!!
    if this missing box-cutter should finds its way into the hands of a rogue nation on the axis of evil, there is no telling how disastrous the consequences might be for the whole of humanity.

    it is incumbent on all citizens never to drop our guard until this dangerous weapon is found. it is there, somewhere, in some forgotten corner of Manhattan.

  22. Daniel Mabsout August 21, 2012 at 12:17 pm #

    This is a good article about 9/11 but i would like to add my personal feeling to the subject.

    This 9/11 job took lots of effort on behalf of a great portion of the intelligentsia and community with multiple versions as to what has really happened. This investigation around this operation has exceeded all limits and surpassed the investigation into other matters that were of equal importance if not more important , like the war on Iraq or Afghanistan . We have been presented with a riddle that surpassed all riddles . At the same time there appeared the many conspiracy and Illuminati theories to keep us busy as well . So many intellectuals have been mobilized and the press as as well and the media and the internet ; all have been fed this news on which to chew endlessly plus so many questions around al Qa’ida and the leader of al Qa’ida bin Laden. All this has taken so much space and place and used so much ink and paper to the point that it became and still is the number one subject at the expense of others . And even if one has to discuss Palestine, one has to bring in the destruction of the two towers which is not helpful at all but represents a hindrance and weighs on the subject . All this has affected the role of the media and has affected all policies to the point that that one would think that the same people who carried on the job have fueled the media campaign around it.. My opinion is that all this should stop at once and actual present events instead should be brought to light and investigated ,matters of high importance like what are we witnessing in Syria whether it is a revolution , or a plot or what is in store for Iraq after the foreign troops withdrawal or what has happened in Libya and what is happening right now . Matters of great importance that are not being properly given their actual share of investigation.

  23. who_me August 21, 2012 at 6:08 pm #

    mossad planning a new false flag? this time in france?

    http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_08_21/Flashcard-with-layouts-of-French-govnt-buildings-goes-missing/

    “A USB key with the layouts of strategically important buildings of Paris, including the Élysée Palace, has been stolen from a businessman’s car, French media report.

    The businessman’s firm was commissioned to install optical cables in several buildings.

    The USB key contained detailed maps of the presidential residence, the Interior Ministry and the Paris Police Department.

    The files were not encoded. An investigation has been launched.”

  24. etominusipi August 21, 2012 at 6:21 pm #

    Daniel i always enjoy your posts which combine excellent information and political understanding with an admirable point of view based on a real, spiritually based perspective on human affairs. however, at least at the present time i do personally feel that we must continue to push as hard as possible on 911. this ‘event’ was, in any case, not separate from the two wars you mentioned, in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    in the popular mind there is a big difference between war and crime. to be brutally frank, sheeple will more readily pardon an external genocide than treason within the city walls.

    aside from other things, this temperamental difference means that it is easier (not ‘easy’, but definitely easier ) to persuade people that a crime is ‘wrong’ than that a war is ‘wrong’. any war. war can easily be used to drum up insane jingoistic sentiments. especially once our boys and girls start making the return trip home in body bags.

    911 is not war. it is crime. Jay Knott and other Boxcutter theorists are attempting to make 911 an act of war. war on the US by “Al Qaeda”. 911 is the paradigm by means of which the “Al Qaida” homunculus receives the nutrition which permits the continuation of its rather shadowy reality in the popular mind, as an embodiment of everything sinister and alien, which they fear because it feeds on their own darkness and ignorance, and which is easily identified with Islam.

    911 was a crime against truth, against G_d, and against the entire human race, nay, against the entire planetary biosphere. if we cannot, collectively, bring the villains who did it, and the liars who have protected them, to face criminal charges before the entire world, then we are doomed to servitude.

    what 911 ‘truth’ is about (and i agree with you about the distractions of the massive disinfo) is the real nature of the current US regime. a recent comment on Veterans Today gave an interesting list of personnel. i published a similar list of the leaders of the Soviet Russian regime post the Boshevik coup. the same thing is happening (or has happened), in the USA eighty years later. the list here deals only with financial matters, and leaves aside the foreign policy wonks etc. still it represents an impressive phalanx of powerfully placed Kazzers.
    ___________________________________________________________

    posted by REALITY CHECK on Veterans Today
    August 16, 2012 – 3:03 pm

    A few more salient facts:

    JEWS RUN THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK

    Here are the Jews that control the government of America:
    1) Ben Shalom Bernanke: Chairman of the Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Term ends 2020.
    2) Donald L. Kohn: Vice Chairman of the Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Term ends 2016.
    3) Randall S. Kroszner: Member of Board of Governors of Federal Reserve.
    4) Frederic S. Mishkin: Member of Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Term ends 2014.
    5) Alan Greenspan: Advisor to Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Recent Chairman.

    “The Federal Reserve banks are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this nation is run by the International Jewish bankers.” – Congressman Louis T. McFadden (Rep. Pa)

    The Federal Reserve Bank is a consortium of 9 Jewish-owned & associated banks with the Rothschilds at the head:

    1. Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
    2. Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris
    3. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
    4. Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
    5. Lehman Brothers of NY
    6. Kuhn, Loeb Bank of NY (Now Shearson American Express)
    7. Goldman, Sachs of NY
    8. National Bank of Commerce NY/Morgan Guaranty Trust (J. P. Morgan Bank – Equitable Life – Levi P. Morton are principal shareholders)
    9. Hanover Trust of NY (William and David Rockefeller & Chase National Bank NY are principal shareholders)

    Examination of the charts and text in the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976 and the current stockholders list of the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks show this same family control.

    Who runs the U.S. Treasury Department?

    Timothy F. Geithner (Jewish) / Secretary of the Treasury
    Neal S. Wolin (Jewish) / Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
    Mark A. Patterson (Jewish) / Chief of Staff to Secretary of the Treasury
    Matthew Kabaker (Jewish) / Deputy Assistant Secretary, Counselor to the Secretary
    Gene B. Sperling (Jewish) / Counselor to the Secretary
    Lewis Alexander (Jewish) / Counselor to the Secretary
    Richard L. “Jake” Siewert, Jr. (Jewish) / Counselor to the Secretary
    Jeffrey A. Goldstein (Jewish) / Under Secretary for Domestic Finance
    Michael S. Barr (Jewish) / Assistant Secretary for Financial Institutitions
    Mary J. Miller (Jewish) / Assistant Secretary for Financial Mark
    Timothy Massad (Jewish) / Acting Assistant Secretary for Financial Stability
    Richard Gregg (Jewish) / Fiscal Assistant Secretary
    Alan B. Krueger (Jewish) / Assistant Secretary for Economic Policy
    Lael Brainard (Jewish) / Under Secretary for International Affairs
    David S. Cohen (Jewish) / Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence
    S. Leslie Ireland (Jewish) / Assistant Secretary for Intelligence and Analysis
    Daniel L. Glaser (Jewish) / Assistant Secretary for Terrorist Financing

    Who Controls World Banking?
    Mervyn King(Jewish) – Governor, Bank of England
    Jean-Pierre Roth(Jewish) – Chairman, Governing Board, Swiss National Bank
    Jean-Claude Trichet(Jewish) – President, European Central Bank
    Benjamin Bernanke(Jewish) – Chairman, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System
    Donald Kohn(Jewish) – Vice Chairman, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System
    Robert B. Zoellick(Jewish) – President, The World Bank
    Dominique Strauss-Kahn (Jewish) – (former) Managing Director, International Monetary Fund
    John Lipsky(Jewish) – First Deputy Managing Director, International Monetary Fund
    (these were current approximately one year ago, but this serves as an overview..a big picture if you will of Jewish direction at the top levels of world finance and investment and the banking industry)
    _________________________________________________

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/16/goldman-sachs-free-to-keep-stealing/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=goldman-sachs-free-to-keep-stealing

    • Daniel Mabsout August 21, 2012 at 11:23 pm #

      I understand your point and the difference you make between war and crime. I am just wondering if this is leading us anywhere . Now more than ten years have elapsed , are we about to have a real case and people appearing in court and tried the way they should be ? or is it that the same people who carried on the job are behind the multiple versions and leaks of the story so as to confuse us and cause us to lose our way in this maze?

      • etominusipi August 22, 2012 at 8:55 am #

        Daniel asked (re 10 years of 911 truth studies):

        1. is this leading us anywhere?

        2. are we about to have a real case and people appearing in court and tried the way they should be ?

        3. is it that the same people who carried on the job are behind the multiple versions and leaks of the story so as to confuse us and cause us to lose our way in this maze?

        in whatever way you or i might answer, these are certainly questions which should never be too far from our minds.

        however i think the way Daniel actually wrote it, what i separated as questions 1 and 2 are combined in a single question, which, from the phrasing, seems more of a rhetorical question rather than a genuine enquiry:

        I am just wondering if this is leading us anywhere . Now more than ten years have elapsed , are we about to have a real case and people appearing in court and tried the way they should be ?

        along with Daniel, we are entitled to wonder. because, of course, the easy question to answer is number 2:

        No, no-one is about to be put in the dock for 911 crime in a US court of law.

        but surely this consummation, devoutly to be wished will have to come at the end of a long game, and could hardly be expected yet.

        in truth, 10 years is not a long time when dealing with the fate of a military empire with a (historically) unrivalled global reach and technological mastery of the instruments of propaganda, mind-kontrol, death, destruction and oppression. an empire which has, been hijacked by the ruthless, acquisitive and mendacious agents of an extremely powerful and well-connected clique of atheistic megalomaniacs – a clique which has been infiltrating the centers of power for more than a century; a clique in the grip of a self-created myth of superiority and suprematism which is always, in a thousand ways, seeking to tighten the grip of its well-practised and conspiratorial control; a clique which is no more than a self-legitimised criminal gang with a phoney licence to lie, cheat, steal, rape, torture and murder in pursuit of its goals of self-aggrandisement.

        when, many thousands of years ago, we were hunters, we did not merely hunt with spears and traps. we used our mental powers to study the nature and habits of the beasts we pursued.

        in warfare, whilst brute force is a decisive factor in an individual battle, in a long campaign things like strategy, tactics, morale, and information take on much greater importance.

        it is in this larger context that i feel (and this, to be sure, is only one opinion, and a rather naive and ill-informed one at that) we should seek to evaluate whether we are ‘getting anywhere’.

        i will not elaborate, as my personal views are of no particular significance, except to say that the study of 911 events, as a touchstone for much broader geopolitical questions, has been for me an enlightening journey so far. it is a touchstone of truthfulness. it provides criteria for evaluating the motives and understanding of others. it provides a basis of comradeship that is way beyond the petty likes and dislikes of people who are still trapped in the artificial and trivialised world-view imposed upon them by those who would be their masters, and way beyond the rather tortured fraternity of ‘revolutionaries’ who are ideological monomaniacs.

        i certainly do not think 911 should blot out other issues. but i do doubt whether much progress can be made without a clear appreciation of the actual situation we are in. and an understanding of 911 and its aftermath – not in detail, but in broad outline – is a necessary precondition for anyone to contribute to effective resistance. in truth the struggle has hardly begun. we must become realists and prepare for a long game.

        on a long sea journey the view may be unchanged for many miles. yet hidden progress is being made.

        moreover we should beware of accepting the adversary’s propaganda about its own invincibility. in truth it is beset by weaknesses and anxieties, and these are good places to exert the limited pressure currently available to us.

        truth wins in the end because it is implacable. truth needs no allies – it is the foundation of all reality. lies triumph for a time, that is their nature, and their sustenance comes only from human weaknesses. but every lie, or system of lies, becomes increasingly expensive to maintain until eventually this becomes impossible – this is why whatever is based on lies is ultimately doomed. this is simply a fact of nature. this is why the evil apartheid wall built by the Jews in Palestine will be dismantled one day, and also why i can make that prediction with absolute certainty.

        • Somoe August 22, 2012 at 10:07 am #

          Being an eternal optimist, whilst i would like to believe the hoodwinked masses are close to understanding the truth about 9/11, I have to agree entirely with your perspective on this ~
          ‘the truth needs no allies – it is the foundation of all reality’,
          we should prepare for the long haul, when the truth is finally known and realised by all.

        • Daniel Mabsout August 25, 2012 at 12:40 pm #

          The fact is we already know who did the job , it is the same one who used it for war against Iraq and Afghanistan and we know we could not stop this neither in Iraq , nor in Afghanistan and not in Libya either and now in Syria , we are not able to stop him even though we know who he is.For each fake video shown on al Jazeerra and BBC that we have denounced the next day , they have answered by resuming their lies and showing more fake videos and made up material and making Qatar and KSA wage for democracy and freedom . The only thing that is standing in the face of the monster and to stop it is the Resistance of the Syrian army

    • Blake August 22, 2012 at 7:04 pm #

      Reality Check is a friend of mine & requested me to post this here for him as I informed him of your post:

      Where does the Muslim/Iran animosity stem from? A wake-up call for Americans…
      *IRAN SANCTIONS ACT of 1996 Sponsor: Ileana Ross-Lehtinen (Jew)
      *S.Res. 185, Sponsor: Sen. Ben Cardin (Jew) states that if the Palestinian Authority goes ahead with its plan to seek unilateral recognition as a state, the US would suspend its financial aid.
      *H.Res. 268, Sponsor: House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (Jew) The resolution called upon the administration to announce that it would “veto any resolution on Palestinian statehood that comes before the United Nations Security Council.
      *H.Res. 4133, Sponsor: Eric Cantor (Jew) United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012
      *H.RES.568, Sponsor: Ileana Ross-Lehtinen (Jew) preventing the Government of Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapons capability.
      *H.R. 2194, Sponsor: Howard Berman (Jew) Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act of 2010
      *H.R. 1905, Sponsor: Ileana Ross-Lehtinen (Jew) Howard Berman (Jew) will place virtually all of Iran’s energy, financial, and transportation sectors under U.S. sanction. Companies conducting business with Iran in these sectors face losing access to U.S. markets; impose sanctions designed to prevent Iran from repatriating any proceeds from its oil sales, thus depriving Iran of 80 percent of its hard currency earnings and half of the funds to support its national budget; impose tough new sanctions on the National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC), the National Iranian Tanker Company (NITC) and Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC); target Iran’s use of barter transactions to bypass sanctions, the provision of insurance to Iran’s energy sector, and the provision of specialized financial messaging services to the Central Bank of Iran.

      *Steve Simon (Jew) National Security Council Middle East Desk
      *Dan Shapiro (Jew): former Head of Middle East Desk at the National Security Council now ambassador to Israel
      *Robert Einhorn (Jew) Special Advisor for Non-Proliferation and Arms Control
      *Dennis Ross (Jew): Special Advisor for the Gulf (Iran) and Southwest Asia to the Secretary of State
      *Lee Feinstein (Jew): Foreign Policy Advisor
      *Mara Rudman (Jew): Foreign Policy Advisor
      *Eric Lynn (Jew): Middle East Policy Advisor
      *William Burns (Jew) Current Deputy Secretary of State
      *James B. Steinberg (Jew) Former Deputy Secretary of State
      *Stuart Levey (Jew) Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence
      *David Cohen (Jew) Secretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence
      *The Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs headed by Assistant Secretary Jeffrey Feltman (Jew),deals with U.S. foreign policy and U.S. diplomatic relations with Algeria, Bahrain, Egypt,Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Oman, Palestinian Territories, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen. Regional policy issues that NEA handles include Iraq, Middle East peace, terrorism and weapons of mass destruction, and political and economic reform.

      *Hannah Rosenthal (Jew) State Dept Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism
      *Cass Sunstein (Jew) Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs in the Obama administration
      *Wendy Sherman (Jew) Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs
      *Victoria Nuland (Jew) (career Foreign Service officer) and spokesperson for the United States Department of State. (and married to Jewish neocon Robert Kagan co-founder of PNAC the ideological manifesto for the Iraq war)
      *Diane Feinstein (Jew) Chairperson Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
      *Daniel Rubinstein (Jew), Consul General and Chief of Mission, Jerusalem
      *Michael Chertoff (Jew) former Homeland Security chief
      *Daniel Benjamin (Jew) head of the State Department’s Bureau of Counter-Terrorism
      *Ronald Klain (Jew) Former Biden Chief of Staff
      *Rahm Emanuel (Jew) former Obama chief of staff and former Israeli Defense Force soldier
      *Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Jew) Democratic National Committee Chairman
      *David Axelrod (Jew) running Obama re-election campaign

      In October 2007, Debra Cagan (Jew), a senior Pentagon official, shocked a group of British MPs by saying “I hate all Iranians”
      *The most prominent war mongering Pentagon NeoCons and the founders of The Project for a New American Century were Jews: Paul Wolfowitz.. Richard Perle.. Elliot Abrams.. Bill Kristol.. Robert Kagan.. David Wurmser.. Scooter Libby.. Norman Podhoretz.. John Podhoretz.. James Schlesinger.. Dov Zakheim.. Douglas Feith.. Marc Grossman.. Michael Ledeen.. Charles Krauthammer.. Stephen Bryen.. David Frum…The Iraq war planners and the “bomb the Mid East into democracy” advocates. Several of these same Jewish NeoCons in our government also advised Israel’s Netanyahu to resist the “peace process” with this policy paper; A Clean Break: A New Strategy To Secure The Realm.
      (This is only a very partial list. Do the arithmetic yourself)

  25. who_me August 21, 2012 at 6:45 pm #

    i wonder who are the more stalinist: those people who question the official lies about 9/11, as jay insists they are, or those who literally enforce national conformity to the belief in those lies, people who are like jay?

    http://rt.com/usa/news/marine-arrest-facebook-us-204/

    “Brandon J. Raub has been ordered to stay in a mental health institution for a month without charge – and contrary to the American constitution, his defense says. His supporters are concerned any American could end up in Raub’s shoes.

    At a hearing on Monday held in the mental institution, government officials confirmed Raub’s Facebook posts as the only reason for his detention, paying no attention to his comments that those online messages were wrongly interpreted.

    Security forces are said to be using a piece of legislation called Virginia State Code §37.2-808 Emergency custody, under which it is permitted to detain a person in a mental institution without presenting any charges against him, only upon a medic’s recommendation.

    In his Facebook posts, Raub suggested the US government is involved in 9/11 attacks and called for the arrest of some government officials.

    The ex-Marine said “I’ve been very open with the things I’ve had to say on my wall on Facebook. It’s interesting to me that the government is watching Facebook in the first place. That ought to raise some eyebrows and cause some good American citizens some concern,” he added, commenting to The Daily Mail from the hospital.”

    some “land of the free”, eh?

  26. Jay Knott August 22, 2012 at 2:52 am #

    Some commenters still seem to accept SOME aspects of the official narrative, like the existence of the ‘airplanes’. In the competition for conspiracy theories about September 11th, http://deliberation.info is way behind. That paragon of rigorous scholarly enquiry, the website Veterans Today, published a more comprehensive theory back in February. In it, well-known scientist Jim Fetzer argues that there were NO PLANES on 9/11. It was all ‘video fakery’.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/20/911-planesno-planes-and-video-fakery

    • Blake August 22, 2012 at 4:54 am #

      Jay, IMHO I do believe planes went into the WTC (remotely controlled). ALL COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT (except Germany’s Lufthansa) have a device which makes hijacking IMPOSSIBLE. If a plane goes off course, procedures are quickly, immediately implemented. If it is determined that there has been a hijacking the plane’s controls may be overridden – by remotely tapping into the navigational/autopilot system, AND simultaneously DISABLING the cockpit controls !

    • etominusipi August 22, 2012 at 11:42 am #

      Some inveterate liars still accept the customary signification of SOME English words like hasbara . In the competition for boxcutter trolling, http//:written.somewhere.else.first is way behind. That paragon of polite, well-informed and non-partisan enquiry, the website Harry’s Place, published a comprehensive fact back in June 2011, in which well-known Israeli politician Raed Salah points out that there were no Jews killed in the 911 bombings:

      http://hurryupharry.org/2011/06/18/raed-salah-on-911/

      “A suitable way was found to warn the 4,000 Jews who work every day at the Twin Towers to be absent from their work on September 11, 2001, and this is really what happened! Were 4,000 Jewish clerks absent [from their jobs] by chance, or was there another reason? At the same time, no such warning reached the 2,000 Muslims who worked every day in the Twin Towers, and therefore there were hundreds of Muslim victims.”

      according to Harry’s Place Mr Salah also asked:

      “Is it true that the American administration arrested five Israelis with European citizenship on suspicion of involvement in the incident[?] They worked for a Jew in a moving company, with forged visas, and were severely tortured during their interrogation so that they would give details about the incident…”

      it was all ‘media sayanim fakery’!!!

      • Blake August 22, 2012 at 7:28 pm #

        Yep the only people arrested after 911 were Israeli jews who were all quietly returned to “Israel”. 5th columns in the western world’s govts must know who the real enemy is so what gives?

  27. etominusipi August 22, 2012 at 11:58 am #

    אנחנו היו שם כדי לתעד את האירוע

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