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	<title>Comments on: Hiroshima to Fukushima</title>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/67th-anniversary-of-nuclear-insanity-messages-from-mordechai-vanunu-israels-nuclear-whistle-blower-and-this-candidate-for-us-house/#comment-14108</link>
		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 08:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.thenation.com/blog/169238/trumans-grandson-visits-hiroshima-one-site-he-tragically-missed#

&quot;Inside the mound the ceiling is low, the light fluorescent. One has to stoop to stand. To the right and left, pine shelving lines the walls. Stacked neatly on the shelves, like cans of soup in a supermarket, are white porcelain canisters with Japanese lettering on the front. On the day I visited, there were more than a thousand cans in all, explained Masami Ohara, a city official. Each canister contained the ashes of one person killed by the atomic bomb.

Behind twin curtains on either side of an altar, several dozen pine boxes, the size of caskets, were stacked, unceremoniously, from floor to ceiling. They hold the ashes of about 70,000 unidentified victims of the bomb. If, in an instant, all of the residents of Wilmington, Delaware, or Santa Fe, New Mexico, were reduced to ashes, and those ashes carried away to one repository, this is all the room the remains would require.&quot;]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;Inside the mound the ceiling is low, the light fluorescent. One has to stoop to stand. To the right and left, pine shelving lines the walls. Stacked neatly on the shelves, like cans of soup in a supermarket, are white porcelain canisters with Japanese lettering on the front. On the day I visited, there were more than a thousand cans in all, explained Masami Ohara, a city official. Each canister contained the ashes of one person killed by the atomic bomb.</p>
<p>Behind twin curtains on either side of an altar, several dozen pine boxes, the size of caskets, were stacked, unceremoniously, from floor to ceiling. They hold the ashes of about 70,000 unidentified victims of the bomb. If, in an instant, all of the residents of Wilmington, Delaware, or Santa Fe, New Mexico, were reduced to ashes, and those ashes carried away to one repository, this is all the room the remains would require.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen Fleming</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/67th-anniversary-of-nuclear-insanity-messages-from-mordechai-vanunu-israels-nuclear-whistle-blower-and-this-candidate-for-us-house/#comment-14013</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen Fleming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 13:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well, the way i see it is The Walls within MINDS BLOCK them from seeing to the other side 
and they damn themselves.

all one can do is TRY to tear down those walls and show them--it&#039;s just people like them -but in different skins and and we will either wake up and learn we must SHARE this one small planet.

or a catastrophic mistake,

or by human design 

sets off just 1 bomb

the like&#039;s which had been

baby steps 

67 years ago...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjnAORttRnI]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, the way i see it is The Walls within MINDS BLOCK them from seeing to the other side<br />
and they damn themselves.</p>
<p>all one can do is TRY to tear down those walls and show them&#8211;it&#8217;s just people like them -but in different skins and and we will either wake up and learn we must SHARE this one small planet.</p>
<p>or a catastrophic mistake,</p>
<p>or by human design </p>
<p>sets off just 1 bomb</p>
<p>the like&#8217;s which had been</p>
<p>baby steps </p>
<p>67 years ago&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjnAORttRnI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjnAORttRnI</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ariadna Theokopoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/67th-anniversary-of-nuclear-insanity-messages-from-mordechai-vanunu-israels-nuclear-whistle-blower-and-this-candidate-for-us-house/#comment-13689</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariadna Theokopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;But first I add the universally understood definition of INSANITY is to persist in the same behavior while believing a different outcome is possible&quot;

I think that&#039;s outdated, Eileen. I believe the definition used  by those in power now is
&quot;to persist in the same behavior while believing the same outcome is possible again and again, humanity be damned.&quot; So far it&#039;s working for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But first I add the universally understood definition of INSANITY is to persist in the same behavior while believing a different outcome is possible&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s outdated, Eileen. I believe the definition used  by those in power now is<br />
&#8220;to persist in the same behavior while believing the same outcome is possible again and again, humanity be damned.&#8221; So far it&#8217;s working for them.</p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
		<link>http://www.deliberation.info/67th-anniversary-of-nuclear-insanity-messages-from-mordechai-vanunu-israels-nuclear-whistle-blower-and-this-candidate-for-us-house/#comment-13676</link>
		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 18:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Do you think we are living George Orwell’s Nightmare?&quot;

i began thinking that back in the 80&#039;s, watching how all the efforts by people over the last century were being unwound. since then, i think things have gone beyond 1984.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you think we are living George Orwell’s Nightmare?&#8221;</p>
<p>i began thinking that back in the 80&#8242;s, watching how all the efforts by people over the last century were being unwound. since then, i think things have gone beyond 1984.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen Fleming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen Fleming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THANK YOU  who_me and etominusipi for the YOUTUBE leads and I am off to explore them!

But first I add the universally understood definition of INSANITY is to persist in the same behavior while believing a different outcome is possible; 

And after multiple millennium of WARS only the INSANE could believe &quot;War is Peace&quot;!

Do you think we are living George Orwell&#039;s Nightmare? 

As Vanunu wrote &quot;1984, yes I read it many times and many years ago. 1984 is here [now!].&quot;

http://www.wearewideawake.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=860&amp;Itemid=198]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU  who_me and etominusipi for the YOUTUBE leads and I am off to explore them!</p>
<p>But first I add the universally understood definition of INSANITY is to persist in the same behavior while believing a different outcome is possible; </p>
<p>And after multiple millennium of WARS only the INSANE could believe &#8220;War is Peace&#8221;!</p>
<p>Do you think we are living George Orwell&#8217;s Nightmare? </p>
<p>As Vanunu wrote &#8220;1984, yes I read it many times and many years ago. 1984 is here [now!].&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wearewideawake.org/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=860&#038;Itemid=198" rel="nofollow">http://www.wearewideawake.org/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=860&#038;Itemid=198</a></p>
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		<title>By: etominusipi</title>
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		<dc:creator>etominusipi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 09:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice article Eileen, thanks. your friend Mordechai V is a courageous, honest and clear-sighted human  being young Israelis would be well-advised to choose as one of their role-models, in preference to the Tyrannosauri of Tel Aviv.

Isai Hashimoto&#039;s  short video of nuclear explosions is a fine work, a masterpiece of understatement, with a touch of gallows humour.

it is good to view it in conjunction with a great new rock vid for a fav Wagner track:

&lt;b&gt;World Battleground, 1000 years of war in 5 minutes &lt;/b&gt;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hsDn2kNriI&amp;feature=related

both of these visual treatments put me in mind of the saying:

&lt;b&gt;those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad&lt;/b&gt;

quoted as a &quot;heathen proverb&quot; in &lt;i&gt;Daniel, a Model for Young Men &lt;/i&gt;(1854) by William Anderson Scott. the origin of the common misattribution to Euripides is unknown. (info from wikiquote)

this idea of collective insanity is more than a metaphor. it is a demonstrable reality, which remains unacknowleged (outside a relatively small group of people scattered throughout the nations) only because a predominant symptom of the syndrome is a widespread malfunction of the communications network (education, the media, etc.).

in medical terms, what is a psychotic disorder?

&quot;a psychotic disorder is a mental illness that causes abnormal thinking and perceptions. psychotic illnesses alter a person’s ability to think clearly, make good judgments, respond emotionally, communicate effectively, understand reality, and behave appropriately.&quot; (from Cleveland Clinic)

to understand politics we must add to the clinical picture. against the background of general (induced) psychosis, we need to pencil in the findings of &lt;i&gt;political ponerology&lt;/i&gt; (concerning the dominance of a psychopathic minority and the direct relation of this to large-scale violence and oppression) and the related &lt;i&gt; pathological-liar-syndrome&lt;/i&gt; evidenced in the quoted lines from the speech by &#039;president&#039; Obama. cf also the case study of T.Blair.

in moving from diagnosis towards prognosis we must take heed of a further phenomenon which makes this illness particularly resistant to therapies - the &lt;i&gt;vicious circle effect&lt;/i&gt;. 

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;the externalised symptoms&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, which we might collect together as individual facets of a generalised and widespread &lt;i&gt;brutalism&lt;/i&gt; which permeates &#039;modern&#039; society and culture (e.g. in architecture, warfare, oppression, and degradation of aesthetic taste and personal morality), &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;are themselves powerful agents for the maintenance, propagation  and intensification of the madness itself&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

due primarily to the rapid pace of enforced technological change, the vicious circle effect here amounts to what is known in cybernetics as a positive feedback loop. thus in medical terms, the collective human disorder is a progressive degenerative disease, in which the deterioration is accelerating.

these facts are not particularly cheerful to contemplate. but any thought of amelioration  must first of all begin with an outline picture of the condition as a whole, drawn with clarity and a total absence of sentimentality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice article Eileen, thanks. your friend Mordechai V is a courageous, honest and clear-sighted human  being young Israelis would be well-advised to choose as one of their role-models, in preference to the Tyrannosauri of Tel Aviv.</p>
<p>Isai Hashimoto&#8217;s  short video of nuclear explosions is a fine work, a masterpiece of understatement, with a touch of gallows humour.</p>
<p>it is good to view it in conjunction with a great new rock vid for a fav Wagner track:</p>
<p><b>World Battleground, 1000 years of war in 5 minutes </b><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hsDn2kNriI&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hsDn2kNriI&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>both of these visual treatments put me in mind of the saying:</p>
<p><b>those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad</b></p>
<p>quoted as a &#8220;heathen proverb&#8221; in <i>Daniel, a Model for Young Men </i>(1854) by William Anderson Scott. the origin of the common misattribution to Euripides is unknown. (info from wikiquote)</p>
<p>this idea of collective insanity is more than a metaphor. it is a demonstrable reality, which remains unacknowleged (outside a relatively small group of people scattered throughout the nations) only because a predominant symptom of the syndrome is a widespread malfunction of the communications network (education, the media, etc.).</p>
<p>in medical terms, what is a psychotic disorder?</p>
<p>&#8220;a psychotic disorder is a mental illness that causes abnormal thinking and perceptions. psychotic illnesses alter a person’s ability to think clearly, make good judgments, respond emotionally, communicate effectively, understand reality, and behave appropriately.&#8221; (from Cleveland Clinic)</p>
<p>to understand politics we must add to the clinical picture. against the background of general (induced) psychosis, we need to pencil in the findings of <i>political ponerology</i> (concerning the dominance of a psychopathic minority and the direct relation of this to large-scale violence and oppression) and the related <i> pathological-liar-syndrome</i> evidenced in the quoted lines from the speech by &#8216;president&#8217; Obama. cf also the case study of T.Blair.</p>
<p>in moving from diagnosis towards prognosis we must take heed of a further phenomenon which makes this illness particularly resistant to therapies &#8211; the <i>vicious circle effect</i>. </p>
<p><i><b>the externalised symptoms</b></i>, which we might collect together as individual facets of a generalised and widespread <i>brutalism</i> which permeates &#8216;modern&#8217; society and culture (e.g. in architecture, warfare, oppression, and degradation of aesthetic taste and personal morality), <i><b>are themselves powerful agents for the maintenance, propagation  and intensification of the madness itself</b></i></p>
<p>due primarily to the rapid pace of enforced technological change, the vicious circle effect here amounts to what is known in cybernetics as a positive feedback loop. thus in medical terms, the collective human disorder is a progressive degenerative disease, in which the deterioration is accelerating.</p>
<p>these facts are not particularly cheerful to contemplate. but any thought of amelioration  must first of all begin with an outline picture of the condition as a whole, drawn with clarity and a total absence of sentimentality.</p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
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		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 07:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i had not heard that george harrison song before, thanks. here&#039;s one you may not have heard, but was popular when it came out around 2 decades ago:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNSJbMuOwqk

Линда &quot;Северный ветер&quot; 1995г. 

she basically is saying what you wrote.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had not heard that george harrison song before, thanks. here&#8217;s one you may not have heard, but was popular when it came out around 2 decades ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNSJbMuOwqk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNSJbMuOwqk</a></p>
<p>Линда &#8220;Северный ветер&#8221; 1995г. </p>
<p>she basically is saying what you wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: who_me</title>
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		<dc:creator>who_me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 07:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eileen Fleming

you rock!]]></description>
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<p>you rock!</p>
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